More difficult recruiting year?
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Alabama A&M took 25 transfers for their recent class.
The current enviroment isn't good and the NCAA needs to revisit the 1 time transfer rule. IMO a kid that has graduated should be allowed to transfer w/o sitting and a player on a team where the coach is fired or coach leaves should have some sort of option. But a player that is leaving after a year or two should have to sit. unless their part of team where the coaching staff that recruited him was fired and the new coaching staff came in and wanted a roster makeover. Our son got caught up in this and if you weren't a starter or from instate, you were on the chopping block. Fortunately he was graduating and transfered to a different school.
His current school is taking a mix of HS players and college transfer as they are transitioning from FCS to FBS so there scholarship count goes from 63 to 85 but he'll be the 1st to tell you that coaches look more at the porta now because taking a guy with 2-3 years college experience doesn't require as much attention when making the transition to college for both academics and football.
IMO once the players granted with an extra year are done, this will help HS recruiting. ( I believe players starting college in 2020 is the cut off for that?
The current enviroment isn't good and the NCAA needs to revisit the 1 time transfer rule. IMO a kid that has graduated should be allowed to transfer w/o sitting and a player on a team where the coach is fired or coach leaves should have some sort of option. But a player that is leaving after a year or two should have to sit. unless their part of team where the coaching staff that recruited him was fired and the new coaching staff came in and wanted a roster makeover. Our son got caught up in this and if you weren't a starter or from instate, you were on the chopping block. Fortunately he was graduating and transfered to a different school.
His current school is taking a mix of HS players and college transfer as they are transitioning from FCS to FBS so there scholarship count goes from 63 to 85 but he'll be the 1st to tell you that coaches look more at the porta now because taking a guy with 2-3 years college experience doesn't require as much attention when making the transition to college for both academics and football.
IMO once the players granted with an extra year are done, this will help HS recruiting. ( I believe players starting college in 2020 is the cut off for that?
Definitely a more difficult recruiting year, and more to come down the road. Recruiting won't be back to normal until around the 2024s maybe later. The whole problem is the free Covid year for everyone that the NCAA allowed, doing this without bumping up the scholarship amount really screwed the High Schoolers.
Prior to COVID as we all know it was 85 scholarships for essentially 4 recruiting classes kids would play for 4 years then move on, some even 5 years due to redshirting. Then be grad transfers and move onto a smaller program they can play at if they weren't getting playing time. Now with the free year to everyone and the same amount of scholarships available you have 85 scholarships for 5/6 recruiting classes. 5 is a normal senior no redshirt + covid, 6 being a redshirt senior + covid. There are just fewer scholarships for the HS kids since kids are taking advantage of the Covid year.
The portal is a problem as well, as coaches are diving into it more than ever since players don't have to sit out anymore, and in today's day if you don't win now you are out. But the portal is so overfilled because of all the kids who got the free year.
Ultimately, not bumping up the scholarship amount really screwed the HS recruits. NCAA created a log jam since HS kids weren't able to get an extra year as well.
Prior to COVID as we all know it was 85 scholarships for essentially 4 recruiting classes kids would play for 4 years then move on, some even 5 years due to redshirting. Then be grad transfers and move onto a smaller program they can play at if they weren't getting playing time. Now with the free year to everyone and the same amount of scholarships available you have 85 scholarships for 5/6 recruiting classes. 5 is a normal senior no redshirt + covid, 6 being a redshirt senior + covid. There are just fewer scholarships for the HS kids since kids are taking advantage of the Covid year.
The portal is a problem as well, as coaches are diving into it more than ever since players don't have to sit out anymore, and in today's day if you don't win now you are out. But the portal is so overfilled because of all the kids who got the free year.
Ultimately, not bumping up the scholarship amount really screwed the HS recruits. NCAA created a log jam since HS kids weren't able to get an extra year as well.
USC got Caleb Williams and 2 OU WRs. All proven players, with a year in they are one less scholarship year and more then likely leaving in 2 years and already cashed in the transfer chip. It’s a smarter investment then a 4 year scholarship to an unknown player. ***I don’t like this new way of recruiting and the effect of the portal, I’m just saying schools that cash in on players like these are just fine with it***. If you want big time looks out of HS you better be at least a 3 star. If you get an early commitable offer, I’d secure it.
Yes, I can agree with this assessment. The portal isn't a problem simply because wherever the kid is leaving from, his spot is now open. In my opinion the biggest impact to 22' and possibly 23' class was not having fall football and playing football in the spring. Some kids played 20 games in one year without the proper off season workouts. The total quality of football was not there plus the amount of times coaches were able to visit and evaluate was limited. A great example is the number of kids that have picked up offers from in person evaluations in the month of January. Things are getting close to normal in the land of recruiting so kids will have more opportunities.
I don't like the unlimited portal, just like the majority of everyone.
However, other than making things crazier and the musical chairs last longer, the portal doesn't actually put any real squeeze on high school recruits. If a kid transfers from OU to USC, that is just moving one established Power 5 player from one school to another. And now instead of USC having a scholarship to offer to a 2022 kid, now OU does. But that's ok because that's a scholarship offer OU did not have until that kid decided to transfer.
There is lots of room to criticize the open portal/free agency, but limiting opportunities for high school kids isn't one of them. But it can make everyone's head spin a lot more trying to figure out who has how many scholarships available to give.....coaches and recruiting coordinators included.
I will also add the 3,000 or so kids that will never get picked up are creating room for another 3,000 kids to sign.
Does anyone know how long a student's name stays active in the portal? If a student, at say ISU, enters the portal now but does not earn a scholarship to another school for the following fall. Is his named removed from the portal?
I posted about kids going into the transfer portal and entering a black whole, look at the current numbers.
2021 was horrible for our family. 2022 is slightly better. Being a blue chip has become more important than ever and that does not favor Illinois football in so many ways birthdays, climate, hype, etc. NCAA screwed up pretty much every sport when they first came out thinking about NCAAM hoops, a sport which doesn't graduate as many so myopic decision. Now every sport is free agency, almost overnight. Even the Ivies got tougher since you've got savvy portal transfers trying to score high end graduate degrees. I've got ten nephews coming down the pipe so it will be interesting to watch this playout.
The Ivy League itself did the right thing and held the line on sports. You graduate, four years, and your done. However, the class of 2021 in Illinois got hosed because we played in the Spring. Of course our kids can play in the Ivy however its so competitive that by the time our kids got to play their senior year, all important for this caliber kid, the recruiting window had closed. In addition, kids now and in the future are getting very smart, they are pursuing graduate degrees with their new found extra year. Especially in non football sports. Now I don't have specific stats on the Ivy league accepting football grad students, just anecdotal, but I've heard it enough to warrant the post.