Mo Wash this Saturday

inWV

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Assume that AMart and JD and not available this Saturday. Do we see Wandale, Mo and Noa at WR this Saturday. Get Mo out in space and see if he can do some damage.
 

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Assume that AMart and JD and not available this Saturday. Do we see Wandale, Mo and Noa at WR this Saturday. Get Mo out in space and see if he can do some damage.

I don't see Mo lining up as a receiver any more than what we've seen.
 

inWV

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I don't see Mo lining up as a receiver any more than what we've seen.
Last year when JD was out against Iowa, Mo did some damage out on the perimeter. Can't remember if all of his 7 catches for 102 yards came from lining up as a back, or if he was in the slot of split out on some of them.
 

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Last year when JD was out against Iowa, Mo did some damage out on the perimeter. Can't remember if all of his 7 catches for 102 yards came from lining up as a back, or if he was in the slot of split out on some of them.

We ran a bunch of two backs. He would run the "smoke" route and Zig/AM ran inside zone, had several nice plays on the perimeter. He also had a TD on a wheel route.
 

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They don't need to line up at WR to get the coverages they need. On that big play to WR by Noah, WR simply had a match up with a big slow LB. I'd like more sets with both of them in both running routes. Unless the D starts putting DBs on them, they are going to be open.
 
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I suspect if Vedral is the starter we are going to see more of an emphasis on the running game. I think we run our base offense with Mills, Mo, and Wandale in the backfield sharing reps. I expect a lot of runs from Vedral. We will need to pass, of course, but my hunch is lots of stuff on the perimeter. Hopefully, we can finally get our tight ends more involved as well. But really folks what we really need to do is play error free on offense. Turnovers will cost us this game.
 

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I wonder if we're still going to throw horizontal passes (that gain nothing every-time) all game long again? I hope not.....but then maybe they'll actually work this time? Who knows......
 

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Just depends if Washington is in the dog house or not
I think I've been pretty clear for those that follow along, I wish Washington was not playing.However he is.

This week, I don't expect him to be much of a factor. It looks like it will be miserable weather, against a team that if not overly talented on D, HITs. He hasn't given us any indication he'll flourish in a physical game, when our pass game will challenged(potential injuries and weather). With his reaction after the game Saturday, along with whatever he did to get in trouble... toughness and discipline seem to weak spots for him. Could see Frost's tolerance wearing thin.

More Wandal and more Mills.
 

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Just depends if Washington is in the dog house or not

Will Washington still be with the team? Just read Sipple's column in which he wrote Mo looked very unhappy when he ran off the field last Saturday. Does anyone who went to the game agree with Sipple's observation? If so we all know how kids are these days. If things don't go their way then enter the transfer portal.
 
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It will be cold and wet so dont expect much if anything from Mo
 

inWV

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It will be cold and wet so dont expect much if anything from Mo
Mo was one of the reasons we almost took Iowa to OT last year. Temps were in the 30s for that game.
 

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Will Washington still be with the team? Just read Sipple's column in which he wrote Mo looked very unhappy when he ran off the field last Saturday. Does anyone who went to the game agree with Sipple's observation? If so we all know how kids are these days. If things don't go their way then enter the transfer portal.
He's got a lot to be unhappy about right now. Got himself sat for a half and then came in and looked hurt, slow and scared of contact.

His legs obviously aren't right, if they had better depth and experience at RB I think they would shut him down for a few weeks to heal from that ankle tweak and thigh bruise and whatever else is ailing him.
 

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I think I've been pretty clear for those that follow along, I wish Washington was not playing.However he is.

This week, I don't expect him to be much of a factor. It looks like it will be miserable weather, against a team that if not overly talented on D, HITs. He hasn't given us any indication he'll flourish in a physical game, when our pass game will challenged(potential injuries and weather). With his reaction after the game Saturday, along with whatever he did to get in trouble... toughness and discipline seem to weak spots for him. Could see Frost's tolerance wearing thin

Myself, I do not get why you’d want a weapon like Washington NOT playing? Him and Robinson are probably the most dangerous offensive weapons we have. We need him, JD and WanDale playing. When we have all three out there, we then have 3 players that can take it to the house from anywhere on the field. We can never have enough weapons.

Will Washington still be with the team? Just read Sipple's column in which he wrote Mo looked very unhappy when he ran off the field last Saturday. Does anyone who went to the game agree with Sipple's observation? If so we all know how kids are these days. If things don't go their way then enter the transfer portal.

im sure Washington was upset, he was suspended the first half of the NW game and when he finally got a shot he was way out of whack or rhythm...maybe still hurt from the OSU game, how ever you want to say it and got pulled. The Minnesota game he can start from the first snap. But he’s not going anywhere. Not when his court issues aren’t even over with and the way we have shown him love and working with him. I doubt he was mad at Frost...maybe more mad at being still hurt and not firing off like he wants.
 
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inWV

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If the dude is mad, I sure hope he's mad at himself
 

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Im just worried bout Washington if he really gets hit in the legs
 
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Mo was one of the reasons we almost took Iowa to OT last year. Temps were in the 30s for that game.

you keep saying this but it wasn’t. Mid to upper 40s and mist

Kickoff time: 11:05 am End of Game: 2:18 pm
Temperature: 44 Wind: SSE 7-15 Weather: Overcast
 

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Mo is going through what a lot of Sophmores have to go through. Teams know him now, they can scheme for him. Also, he has to be putting in the work. He can't live on raw talent alone. He has shown flashes this year.

He is also running tentatively. Whether that is due to injury, his head not being where it should, off field stuff, who knows? He better fix it though. Maybe being pissed off is just what he needs.
 

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you keep saying this but it wasn’t. Mid to upper 40s and mist

Kickoff time: 11:05 am End of Game: 2:18 pm
Temperature: 44 Wind: SSE 7-15 Weather: Overcast

it was cold regardless. Washington has played and done fine in the cold weather. He will be fine.
 

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Assume that AMart and JD and not available this Saturday. Do we see Wandale, Mo and Noa at WR this Saturday. Get Mo out in space and see if he can do some damage.

Mo Washington is injured as well...may play but will be limited
 

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Maybe we should quit running him up the middle...behind a poor offensive line


Idk
 

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Maybe we should quit running him up the middle...behind a poor offensive line


Idk
He has to be able to run between the tackles or it is too transparent. Just like Wandale has to be able to run inside and Mills has to be able to run out side, or the defense will know what is coming. Plus a lot of his big runs have come on inside plays that he bounces to the outside.
 

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Assume that AMart and JD and not available this Saturday. Do we see Wandale, Mo and Noa at WR this Saturday. Get Mo out in space and see if he can do some damage.
Get Mo some direct snaps and see what he can do. Oh wait, those would be way over his head! ;)
 

jeans15

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He has to be able to run between the tackles or it is too transparent. Just like Wandale has to be able to run inside and Mills has to be able to run out side, or the defense will know what is coming. Plus a lot of his big runs have come on inside plays that he bounces to the outside.

I understand but every play...lol

Cant get a quick toss or route out the back field besides the screen pass.
 

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We do need Mo to step up this week, specially without potentially having Spielman available.
 

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I think I've been pretty clear for those that follow along, I wish Washington was not playing.However he is.

This week, I don't expect him to be much of a factor. It looks like it will be miserable weather, against a team that if not overly talented on D, HITs. He hasn't given us any indication he'll flourish in a physical game, when our pass game will challenged(potential injuries and weather). With his reaction after the game Saturday, along with whatever he did to get in trouble... toughness and discipline seem to weak spots for him. Could see Frost's tolerance wearing thin.

More Wandal and more Mills.
I disagree.. i just watched the minn/ill game again. They got a ton of yards on the edge/ off tackle runs with corbin that i think frost will use. I believe you can get more than the inside read..look at last year with zig.. 2 long tds off tackle. Jump cut to the outside and washington is better than anyone we have at that at 100%..

On defense if we can get any pressure on their qb he throwa high.. could be some great opportunities for picks.. i think we can win this game with just a little better oline play than we saw last week.. their defense isnt close to NW IMHO
 

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With the injuries, etc. would be cool to see a big game from someone who hasn't really contributed. Maybe Rahmir? Would love to see Noa have a game.
 

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I wonder if we're still going to throw horizontal passes (that gain nothing every-time) all game long again? I hope not.....but then maybe they'll actually work this time? Who knows......
If you watched any of the games at UCF, the horizontal screen passes are a big part of the offense. If you have the vertical passing game going, those horizontal passes will really stretch the defense and you can get chunk plays with both the vertical routes and the screen plays. That's how Frost's UCF offense was so successful. However when you don't have the vertical pass game going teams can cheat up and play the screen passes and it's hard to get anything going. I think since we're struggling in both the outside screen game and the vertical passes, Frost needs to incorporate more passes to the middle of the field. Martinez needs to do a better job of seeing the middle of the field for the underneath routes. Most of the time he completely overlooks it. Also when we do run a horizontal pass, Martinez needs to do a better job of identifying the defense. If a defender is playing up on that and is going to blow the play up, he needs to realize he doesn't need to make that pass and either throw the ball away, find another receiver if there is one or tuck it and run.
 

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If you watched any of the games at UCF, the horizontal screen passes are a big part of the offense. If you have the vertical passing game going, those horizontal passes will really stretch the defense and you can get chunk plays with both the vertical routes and the screen plays. That's how Frost's UCF offense was so successful. However when you don't have the vertical pass game going teams can cheat up and play the screen passes and it's hard to get anything going. I think since we're struggling in both the outside screen game and the vertical passes, Frost needs to incorporate more passes to the middle of the field. Martinez needs to do a better job of seeing the middle of the field for the underneath routes. Most of the time he completely overlooks it. Also when we do run a horizontal pass, Martinez needs to do a better job of identifying the defense. If a defender is playing up on that and is going to blow the play up, he needs to realize he doesn't need to make that pass and either throw the ball away, find another receiver if there is one or tuck it and run.

No, sadly I haven't watched UCF at all. My bad! That sure makes sense that the vertical passing game pretty much has to be there. Or at least the running game is working.

Hmmmm.....maybe why SF keeps trying is out of desperation as what other options are there? Very good oldjar07......thank you sir!!
 

dinglefritz

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I wonder if we're still going to throw horizontal passes (that gain nothing every-time) all game long again? I hope not.....but then maybe they'll actually work this time? Who knows......
The little bit I've watched Minnesota, they don't appear to have much speed on defense. The lateral stuff might work better against them than it did against OSU.