MJ on Briscoe

Cardsstink

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Briscoe played hard every single night, didn't play selfish though he easily could have made it about him and never got in trouble off of the court. People love dirty laundry and talking about others, so I'm sure the chatter will continue - but he held up his end of the bargain for me as a fan.
 
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sefus12

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Briscoe is just upset that he has very little chance to ever stick around the NBA. He came to UK thinking he'd be OAD. That didn't happen. And despite Cal/staff doing what they could to try and showcase the guy, he's simply not an NBA player. He's a good college player that will make money playing somewhere. I just have a hard time seeing the NBA as that place. Because of that he may or may not hold a grudge going forward against the staff for how he was used when here.

I have no idea how the staff could have used him in a way to improve his NBA stock w/out hurting the team. As someone else noted, I think it's simply the case that UK/fans thought Briscoe was better than he was and Briscoe certainly thought he was better than he is.
 

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Since we are talking about attending school..... I went to school one time a long time ago. I think.... No that was University of Phoenix. I graduated with honor, Joey Honor and Martha Honor. I played on the basketball team. Although I am only 4'9" they put me at center. I averaged 27 points a game with 12 rebounds or was that 12 points a game with 27 rebounds. They retired my Jersey. I met my wife at school... one time and she married me we went to Laurel Lake on our honeymoon. We didn't catch any trout so we did not eat all week. We decided to stop by natural bridge on our way back home and decided to go cliff climbing after drinking 2 cases of fall city beer. We ran out of salt and stopped drinking at that point. Well anyway we proceeded to climb a cliff and got about half way up when Marty fell off. Oh, did I forget to mention Marty? He was a homeless guy we picked up on our way to natural bridge. Well any way Marty fell and I had to pee so I told my new bride that I would go check on Marty. Well as soon as I hit the ground I went to pee. After peeing I checked on Marty and you know it he was dead. I yelled up at my new bride and she started screaming and crying. So now I have to go all the way back up the cliff to get my bride down. Well, about half way up I seen her coming. She had fallen now I got 2 people on the ground. Well I had to pee again so I went down to check on my new bride and you guessed I went to pee first because I didn't think they would go anywhere. So I went to check on my bride and you know it she had expired. Well I had to carry both of them down the hill from natural bridge. Since I didn't know the guy I left him beside the road near the lake. So I had to take my new bride back to her parents house wrapped up in at back pack. I dropped her off about noon on a Sunday then I went home, ate and went to bed with Nadine Rumpgrinder.
 

mashburned

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Yep. He's a National Enquirer scumbag in my opinion, using the fanbase for his own benefit as he knows people love dirty laundry.

True, but I guess the flipside is that is exactly the business he's in. Tabloid bs facts optional e-news.

Only thing I have a problem with is the hypocrisy: one, this never came up before. In fact, when it was clear Briscoe was hurting our team last year, and fans were commenting, I'm pretty sure MJ gave us a lecture or two about that. Nobody whines more when anybody says anything negative about a UK player than MJ. We're supposed to be all positive and cheery, that's our job as fans. Then he does crap like this, then he can come back and lecture message board posters who get on his case...the circle of e-tabloid news! It's all so stupid and not important at all.
 

KMKAT

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I have no problems with Brisco, Played his heart out when on the floor. And he will make it in the NBA, he's a hard charger and plays defense.

Agree, with my favorite IB memory was him getting a steal and beating the clock at halftime of the Duke game. He helped us shutting down Allen that game and I appreciate his efforts every time he took the court.
 
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sefus12

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Briscoe always played hard for us and I haven't heard anything to suggest he did anything terrible off the court.Don't get the hate but whatever.

If you listen to what was said (as opposed to what is said here), the KSR guys said he was tough to deal with from time-to-time, not that he did anything terrible. Big difference between the two.
 

Kycatspaws

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Briscoe always battled hard on the court and has his place in Kentucky Basketball history.

 
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GonzoCat90

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Can we please get some actual quotes instead of a three-person tandem post while in a rush to do other things? What did Matt say?
 

BoxterS

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Man Cal really does do all he can for these kids, even if to the detriment of the team. He played Briscoe through his bad play and evidently bad attitude. All year long I thought Hawkins deserved his minutes and I feel that way now, but Cal stuck right with IB. Players first, except for 3-star Hawkins I guess
 
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Sorry about that, I was going to return to add details, but got stuck on the phone.
I hadn't heard that Briscoe was a difficult individual to deal with off the court. He's a bit of a head case apparently.
Cal and the staff do a great job of keeping that stuff on the down low, I'm surprised Cal is okay with MJ airing dirty laundry Like this too.

MJ says NOTHING without approval of Cal.

IMHO, when IB said what he did about "not wanting to talk about U.K. anymore", Cal took the reins off of MJ to tell about IB's attitude here.

Cal fights for his players while they are here even when they are a butt. Once they even hint at harming the program, he uses MJ to set the record straight.JMHO
 

BlueWho

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I imagine the biggest problem they had with him was the academics side of it, it is a well known fact how much he disliked the school part of it all. He has that straight to the point abrasive personality like most of the folks who come from where he comes from.
 

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Well, Briscoe is a PG that was forced to be a 6'3 SF for 2 years because we had better point guards on the roster but Cal knew he was still obligated to play him.

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to realize Briscoe was a bit of an a-hole, and I really don't mean that in a bad way as I think it mostly just has to do with his tough up bringing.

UK spent 2 years trying to fit a square peg in a round hole when it came to Briscoe and of all the guys he played with that have nice careers ahead of them he's the only one facing nothing but uncertainty.

I don't blame him for feeling like he was misused because he basically was but at the same point I think the staff did everything they could to prioritize him as a big part of team. It just wasn't role he wanted or fit into well.

One out of how many posts that were accurate (Or at least explained the cause for his less-than stellar attitude.) concerning Briscoe's situation. Yes at 18 or so it is sure hard to succumb to a situation where you know you will not have the best chance to shine. (I wish I had reacted and also acted as well as he did at that age.)Sorry but I give him a pass because no matter how he may be perceived he did NOT cause any issues outside of hurting himself. He played team ball for the most part. Nope, I will still not rag him. jmuo
 

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MJ says NOTHING without approval of Cal.

IMHO, when IB said what he did about "not wanting to talk about U.K. anymore", Cal took the reins off of MJ to tell about IB's attitude here.

Cal fights for his players while they are here even when they are a butt. Once they even hint at harming the program, he uses MJ to set the record straight.JMHO

You do not know that for a fact. It would be a whole lot better for everyone if you'd state it as an opinion instead of fact like you did. (Yes at the end you stated JMHO) Other than I felt you were very wrong I read it to the end or I would not have.
 
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BBUK_anon

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I think he's highly exaggerating for radio purposes.

1. He was loved by everybody. There was no mention of any of this stuff while he played here. He was tough on the court and candid off the court. While he was here causing problems would have been thr time to mention this stuff.
*maybe not as loved last year but that's Cal's fault for using him too much. Dom should have had more of his minutes. Whatever, we didn't have a 3 man, so I kind of understand.

2. He was Cal's favorite player. He bent over backwards for Briscoe, to the detriment of our team, imo. So, whatever junk MJ is referencing was not important to Cal. Cal campaigned for him all the time. WOW HAVE YOU SEEN HIS JUMPSHOT? KIDS IN THE GYM ALL THE TIME

3. MJ did this same crap with Lamb, sort of. Hinting he was not the greatest to deal with. Idgaf. Lamb and Briscoe didn't care for po'dunk lexington, but why should they? They came here to play ball, and they played ball real well, and answered stupid media questions.

Lamb's a lot better than Briscoe, but the had the same sort of attitude, and they were gold with quotes and media things. Real savy, college players. I wish both could have stayed longer. If there were any real issues, Cal would've sat their butts...I assume. Like he says, we got guys on the bench.

YEP, No talk of issues until now. Zip, nada, none...strange...but regular...

Good, very good post.
 
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You do not know that for a fact. It would be a whole lot better for everyone if you'd state it as an opinion instead of fact like you did. (Yes at the end you stated JMHO) Other than I felt you were very wrong I read it to the end or I would not have.

I actually said IMHO 2 times. Of course it's my "opinion", however, do you think MJ would ever admit to this being the case even if it were fact? I don't.
 

Mike-D

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Sorry about that, I was going to return to add details, but got stuck on the phone.
I hadn't heard that Briscoe was a difficult individual to deal with off the court. He's a bit of a head case apparently.
Cal and the staff do a great job of keeping that stuff on the down low, I'm surprised Cal is okay with MJ airing dirty laundry Like this too.

Thankfully we aren't UofL, and try to hide everything.
 

JC43

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I call ********. Never on the sideline or before game did I see IB act out. Never a prima Donna or talk back to the coaches. He played hard for us, out of position mind you, putting aside his own goals to make the team better.
A lot of folks blame IB for defense, stepping out of bounds. He came in and always was active and engaged in games.
It's not his fault the past 2 yrs we had bigs who played really small. Lee and Skal his first year and bam and hump this yr. Cal's defense relies on big with shot blocking abilities. Both bam and Skal fooled us bout that. With the bigs blocking shots it allows the guards to pressure the ball handler which we didn't do a lot of...
I should stay, but what does he play, pt? Handle not tight enough
Wing? Offensively no range...he could post smaller guards but again, he wasn't primary ball handler.
When Cal got IB, both he and IB probably didn't expect the mastery,tyler ulis attained over that ball club.
I wish I the best, f$_k all the naysayers, he trusted in Cal, and that may have cost him.
 
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BBUK_anon

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I actually said IMHO 2 times. Of course it's my "opinion", however, do you think MJ would ever admit to this being the case even if it were fact? I don't.

Please excuse the directness but I got hot. Yes, MJ seems to do most anything for viewers. I have seen his posts time and time again. I went to his site a long time ago but when he was in his blatant stealing days I swore off him due to that character flaw he tended to flaunt. I see nothing to change my mind concerning Matt Jones...Good or bad I stay away from him and his. (Just my choice, nothing more, nothing less.)
 

GonzoCat90

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Man Cal really does do all he can for these kids, even if to the detriment of the team. He played Briscoe through his bad play and evidently bad attitude. All year long I thought Hawkins deserved his minutes and I feel that way now, but Cal stuck right with IB. Players first, except for 3-star Hawkins I guess

Keep trying.
 
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Sorry about that, I was going to return to add details, but got stuck on the phone.
I hadn't heard that Briscoe was a difficult individual to deal with off the court. He's a bit of a head case apparently.
Cal and the staff do a great job of keeping that stuff on the down low, I'm surprised Cal is okay with MJ airing dirty laundry Like this too.

Cal may let MJ make this public, so that should Briscoe get negative, toward the program, it is public knowledge why, since Cal would never throw a player under the bus.
 

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Man Cal really does do all he can for these kids, even if to the detriment of the team. He played Briscoe through his bad play and evidently bad attitude. All year long I thought Hawkins deserved his minutes and I feel that way now, but Cal stuck right with IB. Players first, except for 3-star Hawkins I guess

Fail...
 
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BBUK_anon

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Cal may let MJ make this public, so that should Briscoe get negative, toward the program, it is public knowledge why, since Cal would never throw a player under the bus.

Sir,
If Cal sanctioned what Matt did he didn't miss much at getting Briscoe under that buss. I doubt Cal had anything to do with this...jmuo
 
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ulismyman

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I mean seriously...you guys actually needed Matt to tell you IB was a problem child off the floor?? Why do you yhink our GPA was lower??