Misperception to clear up

[preacherfan]

There are definitely some medical specialties that fit those who are not people friendly. You also can go into research. People just don’t quit after 2 years without a good reason. By that point the schools have invested heavily into their students and frankly don’t like to admit they picked a dud so they will bend over backwards to make it work. Seeing his “The refs are cheating us” press conference made me wonder about his ability to handle stress and speculate if that played into his career change.

1. Being a coach is very high stress. 2. Every coach goes there in one way or another. And, it was clear that it wasn't just the refs that he was addressing. He was frustrated on a number of levels.

Half way through my last 2 year contract I had similar "meltdown" that lasted a day. The next day I started the process of firing 2 staff members. After that, everything started booming and moving forward. The organization I was hired to "fix" had a total turnaround and is growing rapidly under the new leadership. My point is that a "meltdown" may not be a bad thing!

 

[preacherfan]

The first point guard Pope offered this offseason was Zoom Diallo -- he got him.
He targeted Alex Wilkins to play the "second point guard" position and slot in at the two -- he got him.
He has his sights set on Freeman or Ransik -- let's see how that turns out.

...So far, Pope has done a better job than I would expect in naming his guy and going to get him.

Admittedly, I don't think he will get Stokes. That would be losing out on the #1 player to a HOF coach , at a blueblood program. That would be a "whiff" that is reasonably understandable for any coach who isn't Jon Scheyer or John Calipari on the recruiting front.

Pope, IMO, continues to show that he is competent in recruiting (B+), although he isn't elite. I don't think anyone thought we were hiring an elite recruiter when we got Pope. However, he needs to be better in many other areas if he wants to remain the coach here.

Pope needs both Stokes and Freeman, IMO. Missing on both would be horrible for us. If he misses on one of them, we still need another "must get" player.

 

[Bluegrass79]

I believe Roderick Rhodes that won it that year. If I'm not mistaken. And I'm clearly not ever mistaken.

 

[battle_cats]

Some fans are just constantly miserable. Some fans are professional village idiots. Many fans are both. UK also has some great fans and its not hard to see who is who. Just ignore the stupid people...

 

[BookofMormon]

The first point guard Pope offered this offseason was Zoom Diallo -- he got him.
He targeted Alex Wilkins to play the "second point guard" position and slot in at the two -- he got him.
He has his sights set on Freeman or Ransik -- let's see how that turns out.

...So far, Pope has done a better job than I would expect in naming his guy and going to get him.

Admittedly, I don't think he will get Stokes. That would be losing out on the #1 player to a HOF coach , at a blueblood program. That would be a "whiff" that is reasonably understandable for any coach who isn't Jon Scheyer or John Calipari on the recruiting front.

Pope, IMO, continues to show that he is competent in recruiting (B+), although he isn't elite. I don't think anyone thought we were hiring an elite recruiter when we got Pope. However, he needs to be better in many other areas if he wants to remain the coach here.

Fair - not sure he's B+, but he has landed more here than I would have hoped. My argument will simply be how many of these recruits are coming for the payday motivation, versus wanting to play for him.

Stokes I have no view on - feels like he was predetermined to KU.

 

[Ford to Mashburn]

Uhm, did he graduate from medical school?
I know plenty of wealthy family imbeciles that got in Ivy league schools.

I’m not saying he’s a great coach. I’m just saying I don’t think your brain pan is on th same level intellectually. That’s not a knock on you. I’m just saying intellectually he’s on a different level academically. Some of the brightest people are not the greatest people persons nor do they all have common sense.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

Fair - not sure he's B+, but he has landed more here than I would have hoped. My argument will simply be how many of these recruits are coming for the payday motivation, versus wanting to play for him.

Stokes I have no view on - feels like he was predetermined to KU.

Can’t punish a guy for “recruiting” within the rules. Whatever works, works imo

 

[Ford to Mashburn]

Uhm, did he graduate from medical school?
I know plenty of wealthy family imbeciles that got in Ivy league schools.

Lots of people buy their way in. I don’t think that was the case with Mark Pope.

 

[BookofMormon]

Can’t punish a guy for “recruiting” within the rules. Whatever works, works imo

True - end of day, these are only names on paper. It's only as exciting up until we see results. I tend to find roster construction to be a delicate thing - mixing and matching complimentary skillsets to fit a system, personalities with detail, being intentional and targeted around it. This may all work because it is part of a plan, and it can also work by pure chance (or not).

Not only does this intention matter, but I find it seeps into the culture of a team. If kids know whey they are there and their role, they perform better. So slinging spaghetti doesn't necessarily do that.

We'll see.

I do like your view, solid.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

I tend to find roster construction to be a delicate thing - mixing and matching complimentary skillsets to fit a system, personalities with detail, being intentional and targeted around it. This may all work because it is part of a plan, and it can also work by pure chance (or not).

Not only does this intention matter, but I find it seeps into the culture of a team. If kids know whey they are there and their role, they perform better.

Omg are you me in the future? Did the Bengals finally win a Super Bowl!?

in all seriousness, I couldn’t agree more with you!

 

[BookofMormon]

The concept of "team" is a far more complex arrangement than stringing together talent. It's getting 5 guys rowing together in unison, each one in the boat knowing their pull.

 

[BigBluefoot]

Ivy Med School. And, you don’t.

Actually I do. Dated a girl who graduated from Harvard........."art major." Several family members who graduated or taught at Ivy league schools. Now only one of those, I'd consider an imbecile, but getting in an Ivy league institution doesn't and necessarily mean you're automatically a brainiac. I'd put your average engineering student in most institutions against any random non-STEM Ivy league student.

 

[BigBluefoot]

Dude, I have 2 masters so I know I am smarter than you, but that is not saying much.

The fact that you believe that automatically makes you smarter than someone you don't know speaks volumes. Same with your salty comment exclaiming that Pope is smarter than most everyone on this board. Here's a novel thought. Don't be condescending and I won't throw it back in your face.

 

[Trinity45]

The fact that you believe that automatically makes you smarter than someone you don't know speaks volumes. Same with your salty comment exclaiming that Pope is smarter than most everyone on this board. Here's a novel thought. Don't be condescending and I won't throw it back in your face.

Truth really gets to you, sorry it upsets you.

 

[Trinity45]

Well your comment was that pope was smarter than every single poster on here which is definitely not true. For those others you are talking about I really dont care about. If that’s what they have to do for entertainment it’s a pretty sad state of affairs for their own personal lives.

Actually we cannot say yes or no on that statement, and sad to say yes there are trolls who live more to troll this site than actually cheer for their own team, sorry to say I was friends with them back in high school.

 

[BigBluefoot]

I’m not saying he’s a great coach. I’m just saying I don’t think your brain pan is on th same level intellectually. That’s not a knock on you. I’m just saying intellectually he’s on a different level academically. Some of the brightest people are not the greatest people persons nor do they all have common sense.

You don't know anything about my intellectual capabilities. (Lots of juvenile sniping on here).
My point is that people like to throw out "he went to medical school" as if equates to completing medical school and ergo his coaching ability shouldn't be questioned or something. That's all.

 

[BigBluefoot]

Truth really gets to you, sorry it upsets you.

Fascinating. Was one of your degrees in clairvoyance? Upset? No. Mildly amused...you betcha.

 

[Trinity45]

Fascinating. Was one of your degrees in clairvoyance? Upset? No. Mildly amused...you betcha.

Yet you keep coming back, that is fascinating, not clairvoyant but can read most like a book.

 

[ChocoChicken]

Actually I do. Dated a girl who graduated from Harvard........."art major." Several family members who graduated or taught at Ivy league schools. Now only one of those, I'd consider an imbecile, but getting in an Ivy league institution doesn't and necessarily mean you're automatically a brainiac. I'd put your average engineering student in most institutions against any random non-STEM Ivy league student.

In the US at least, going to an expensive college is more likely to mean your parents have money or your parents/grandparents went there than it means that you’re super smart and deserving of going to said elite college.

There’s a reason America is falling behind other countries in education. We aren’t sending our best to the best colleges.