Minonk (Fieldcrest)

4Afan

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Why can Stockton not only field a team but be pretty darn good with 165 kids in the school but Minonk can’t even field a team with 220?

Minooka could be better.
So the community situation in Stockton is identical to Minonk? Why do you assume every small town community throughout the state is identical and should reflect that on a football field?
 

4Afan

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I appreciate you jumping in here and sharing your thoughts.

This is a big part of what frustrates me. These small town blue collar communities are filled with kids who are tough hard nosed kids.

Something is lacking if you can’t get enough to fill a roster.

Maybe it’s the parents, coaches, administrators, etc….but it’s definitely not simply “it is what it is”.
It's down right comical if you believe the community is lacking something just because they can't field a high school football team. It's also sad that you're so narrow minded that you believe just because there's successful small town programs around the state that they all must be the exact same.

What if I said, jeez, why can't Leo be just as good as MC? They're both CCL schools who can recruit. It really is a shame that Leo can't figure it out. Those parents, teachers, coaches, administrators, and those with any pride should be ashamed of themselves!

Maybe the kids don't want to play football, maybe there's not enough teachers or parents to fill out a coaching staff. They won 7 total games in the last 4 years, they must not be that tough and hard nosed.

You said yourself that they have a solid basketball team, so why can't the community rally around that? Why does it have to be football? Haven't you seen Hoosiers?
 

Colin2299

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So the community situation in Stockton is identical to Minonk? Why do you assume every small town community throughout the state is identical and should reflect that on a football field?
Can you ever answer a question?
 

cornerrat#1

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I don't live in the area, so can't say specifically. In general, the main factors are likely some combo of:
--Lack of recent program success, which then reduces interest in participating.
--A smaller pool of potential players each year as enrollment drops.
--Limited youth program opportunities.
--School known for some other sport and football is 2nd/3rd option rather than 1st.
All.... In the mix as well that has effected all size schools with all the national attention which included movies is the head injury and concussion issue. I know of several hs kids in town (good athletes) not playing because their parents said no way. Ratsy
 

4Afan

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Can you ever answer a question?
I did. Your turn. What are your reasons why you feel that Minonk, regardless of their situation, should field a team? Simply because that's how it was 30-40 years ago?

There's any number of reasons Stockton can do it and Minonk can't. Do boys even want to play football? Being that they can't field a team I think you know the answer to that one. Do they have people that want to coach? Do they have the funding required to field a team? The answer to all of these questions for Stockton is yes. Can Minonk say the same?

You think that all it takes is a good coach, kids who want nothing more than to play HS football, and pride in community to be a successful program for years to come, I bet some of the people of Alleman had the same thinking.

Your assumption is that all small towns exist in a vacuum and since one school, which didn't exist before 1992, and has 9 all time playoff wins should automatically be able to have the same type of program as a school like Stockton who's first season of football was 1919 simply because they're also a small community.

Outside of maybe 10-15ish small (1A to 2A) schools who have consistent success across the state the rest are all either cyclical or are never successful. Which leads to schools not fielding teams or going to 8 man. You previously mentioned Dwight, we'll they can't field a team by themselves, they co-op for football.
 

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I did. Your turn. What are your reasons why you feel that Minonk, regardless of their situation, should field a team? Simply because that's how it was 30-40 years ago?

There's any number of reasons Stockton can do it and Minonk can't. Do boys even want to play football? Being that they can't field a team I think you know the answer to that one. Do they have people that want to coach? Do they have the funding required to field a team? The answer to all of these questions for Stockton is yes. Can Minonk say the same?

You think that all it takes is a good coach, kids who want nothing more than to play HS football, and pride in community to be a successful program for years to come, I bet some of the people of Alleman had the same thinking.

Your assumption is that all small towns exist in a vacuum and since one school, which didn't exist before 1992, and has 9 all time playoff wins should automatically be able to have the same type of program as a school like Stockton who's first season of football was 1919 simply because they're also a small community.

Outside of maybe 10-15ish small (1A to 2A) schools who have consistent success across the state the rest are all either cyclical or are never successful. Which leads to schools not fielding teams or going to 8 man. You previously mentioned Dwight, we'll they can't field a team by themselves, they co-op for football.
Generally agree with all this, except I don’t think Dwight has their co-op with Gardner anymore. Their enrollment went from 403 in 2024 to 210 in 2025 and they are not listed as a co-op per IHSA.org.
 

4Afan

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Generally agree with all this, except I don’t think Dwight has their co-op with Gardner anymore. Their enrollment went from 403 in 2024 to 210 in 2025 and they are not listed as a co-op per IHSA.org.
Interesting, I wonder what caused that move.
 

Doctor_D

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Interesting, I wonder what caused that move.
I believe they weren’t getting enough kids from G-SW to justify nearly doubling their enrollment and going from 1A to 2A (and awfully close to 3A.) Pretty sure they were the largest 2A in 2024 and Wilmo was smallest 3A.
 
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jotapepe

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I believe they weren’t getting enough kids from G-SW to justify nearly doubling their enrollment and going from 1A to 2A (and awfully close to 3A.) Pretty sure they were the largest 2A in 2024 and Wilmo was smallest 3A.
I think that may have been the reason for the breakup of the old Villa Grove/Heritage coop (which is apparently back on this year). I've seen similar things happen in Iowa.
 

SouthofI80Fan

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I appreciate you jumping in here and sharing your thoughts.

This is a big part of what frustrates me. These small town blue collar communities are filled with kids who are tough hard nosed kids.

Something is lacking if you can’t get enough to fill a roster.

Maybe it’s the parents, coaches, administrators, etc….but it’s definitely not simply “it is what it is”.
How exactly do you know that these small towns are filled with "hard noses kids?"

The issue with Fieldcrest is a multitude of small things.
1. These hard nosed kids haven't been very successful the past few years so losing games usually doesn't help get kids they don't play to play.

2. JFL program has struggled the past few years getting enough kids to field teams, you are now seeing those groups enter high school.

3. They all have a slight downward trend on enrollment the next few years. Dropped by 25 students from 24-25. For a small school, that's the entire program.

4. I could be wrong but either there Soph or Junior class is pretty smaller, something like 40 or so kids, assume half are girls, so they gives you a pool of 20 to pull from. And if half play, that's 10 kids from that class.

5. HS sports are not as important as they once were and some kids and families don't see the value in sports for their child.

6. Fieldcrest has great support from the community and the administration but they can't force kids to play against their will if they don't want to.
 

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How exactly do you know that these small towns are filled with "hard noses kids?"

The issue with Fieldcrest is a multitude of small things.
1. These hard nosed kids haven't been very successful the past few years so losing games usually doesn't help get kids they don't play to play.

2. JFL program has struggled the past few years getting enough kids to field teams, you are now seeing those groups enter high school.

3. They all have a slight downward trend on enrollment the next few years. Dropped by 25 students from 24-25. For a small school, that's the entire program.

4. I could be wrong but either there Soph or Junior class is pretty smaller, something like 40 or so kids, assume half are girls, so they gives you a pool of 20 to pull from. And if half play, that's 10 kids from that class.

5. HS sports are not as important as they once were and some kids and families don't see the value in sports for their child.

6. Fieldcrest has great support from the community and the administration but they can't force kids to play against their will if they don't want to.
#5 is what some don't understand. HS sports is just not very important to a large % of kids, parents, etc...
 

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I will say I have found no information for anyone else. Clifton Central has the "easiest" time because they could play Tuscola, which is a reasonable drive, but Tuscola needs the home game as it's their homecoming and I know Clifton Central had a home matchup that week.

I see very few reasonable games otherwise. Some will doubtless be calling Westmont.
 

jotapepe

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I will say I have found no information for anyone else. Clifton Central has the "easiest" time because they could play Tuscola, which is a reasonable drive, but Tuscola needs the home game as it's their homecoming and I know Clifton Central had a home matchup that week.

I see very few reasonable games otherwise. Some will doubtless be calling Westmont.
And just as I say that... St. Teresa at Salt Fork Week 5.
 

Patrick Devitt

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Oakwood and Dwight will meet in Week 4 now.

I've seen no official release but would say that I'm 99.9% sure Watseka isn't playing Varsity this fall.
 

Colin2299

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Minonk has seen their enrollment drop from 337 in their semi final season in 2019 to 244 last year.
There are numerous teams with worse enrollment decline still playing football.

Stockton only has 29 kids in their senior class this year and somehow beat Lena.
 
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BobbyBoucher9

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I will say I have found no information for anyone else. Clifton Central has the "easiest" time because they could play Tuscola, which is a reasonable drive, but Tuscola needs the home game as it's their homecoming and I know Clifton Central had a home matchup that week.

I see very few reasonable games otherwise. Some will doubtless be calling Westmont.
It's also Central's homecoming as well. Who will budge first. Maybe they can go Neutral and play at U of I
 

BobbyBoucher9

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Oakwood and Dwight will meet in Week 4 now.

I've seen no official release but would say that I'm 99.9% sure Watseka isn't playing Varsity this fall.
100% they notified the conference schools. Their HC also took a job as an assistant at Tri Valley where he was at before. I honestly dont know if Watseka ever gets back to 11 man football. Time will tell.
 
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atrain97

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There are numerous teams with worse enrollment decline still playing football.

Stockton only has 29 kids in their senior class this year and somehow beat Lena.
You cannot just count kids, with that small a class, what is the mix? If Fieldcrest has 29 kids, but 18 are girls and 4 of the boys aren't FB players, where does that leave them?