Miles Bridges

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Who did he force to leave?

Other than Cousins and MKG, supposedly.
Well Brian maybe you should follow our program a little bit closer. Bam just stated a few days ago that Cal told him to leave, in fact, and i am paraphrasing here....Cal asked him what the heck was he doing? Go get in that draft! It is absurd, Cal needs to start worrying about how to format the best team here possible, his strategy sucks. Now tell me how much you hate titles...yada..yada..yada
 
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morgousky

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A simple understanding of our system, players comments, and common sense (to me) are enough to understand Cal does "push players out" or in lighter terms, "needs them to leave". I don't honestly see how that is some hard concept to accept when it's the only way He's able to do what he's able to do. You can't manage this system if players consistently return. And that's especially now, considering top 10 prospects will go anywhere. He can't scare them off. That's why he needed Bam to leave, because Bamba was "in the bag". IN 2009 he would have been.

To not accept this is to suggest that every coach in America can get guys to return, but Cal, the greatest salesman the game has ever seen, can't. Maybe it's Roys box of rings, or coach K's nose? Let's be real. He could.

Not an opinion on the idea itself, just that it does happen, and I once believed the opposite.
 
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A simple understanding of our system, players comments, and common sense (to me) are enough to understand Cal does "push players out" or in lighter terms, "needs them to leave". I don't honestly see how that is some hard concept to accept when it's the only way He's able to do what he's able to do. You can't manage this system if players consistently return. And that's especially now, considering top 10 prospects will go anywhere. He can't scare them off. That's why he needed Bam to leave, because Bamba was "in the bag". IN 2009 he would have been.

To not accept this is to suggest that every coach in America can get guys to return, but Cal, the greatest salesman the game has ever seen, can't. Maybe it's Roys box of rings, or coach K's nose? Let's be real. He could.

Not an opinion on the idea itself, just that it does happen, and I once believed the opposite.

This is an excellent post. Cal thought he had Bamba, therefore he needed Bam to go.
 

brianpoe

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Well Brian maybe you should follow our program a little bit closer. Bam just stated a few days ago that Cal told him to leave, in fact, and i am paraphrasing here....Cal asked him what the heck was he doing? Go get in that draft! It is absurd, Cal needs to start worrying about how to format the best team here possible, his strategy sucks. Now tell me how much you hate titles...yada..yada..yada

A simple understanding of our system, players comments, and common sense (to me) are enough to understand Cal does "push players out" or in lighter terms, "needs them to leave". I don't honestly see how that is some hard concept to accept when it's the only way He's able to do what he's able to do. You can't manage this system if players consistently return. And that's especially now, considering top 10 prospects will go anywhere. He can't scare them off. That's why he needed Bam to leave, because Bamba was "in the bag". IN 2009 he would have been.

To not accept this is to suggest that every coach in America can get guys to return, but Cal, the greatest salesman the game has ever seen, can't. Maybe it's Roys box of rings, or coach K's nose? Let's be real. He could.

Not an opinion on the idea itself, just that it does happen, and I once believed the opposite.

This is an excellent post. Cal thought he had Bamba, therefore he needed Bam to go.


Cal tells them all to enter their name. (see below)

None of us are sure that he tells them to obtain an agent prior to obtaining all the required feedback to make a quality decision.

I agree with my Memphis friend that Bam entering his name definitely didnt hurt with the Bamba recruitment. But again, no reason for Bam to hire an agent so quickly.

@harlancatfan your posts have ben pathetically ignorant the last month and stating Cal's strategy sucks is simply another one to add to the list.

Prior to Cal UK has only had 2 other runs as successful - 92-98 and 70 years ago.

Why do you morons think we were on a Wooden UCLA type of run the 20 years prior to Cal?

Prior to Cal, we sucked in basketball almost as bad as you do posting - we are now in the conversation for a title every season.

Anyone can disagree with the guy's strategy, but to say it sucks makes you look like an uninformed child.


Calipari says all UK players, including walk-ons, will enter NBA Draft
http://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article67873567.html


Calipari says every eligible Wildcat to submit name for NBA Draft
http://www.wkyt.com/content/sports/...ter-names-in-NBA-Draft-process-373273461.html
 

brianpoe

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A simple understanding of our system, players comments, and common sense (to me) are enough to understand Cal does "push players out" or in lighter terms, "needs them to leave". I don't honestly see how that is some hard concept to accept when it's the only way He's able to do what he's able to do. You can't manage this system if players consistently return. And that's especially now, considering top 10 prospects will go anywhere. He can't scare them off. That's why he needed Bam to leave, because Bamba was "in the bag". IN 2009 he would have been.

To not accept this is to suggest that every coach in America can get guys to return, but Cal, the greatest salesman the game has ever seen, can't. Maybe it's Roys box of rings, or coach K's nose? Let's be real. He could.

Not an opinion on the idea itself, just that it does happen, and I once believed the opposite.



I hated it when he pushed Liggins, Teague, Lamb, Dakari, Briscoe, the Twins, WCS, Poythress, Humphries...

The real truth is that he suggests any potential 1st rounder to receive feedback and any lottery pick to go.

The only evidence of "pushing" someone out, which was an obvious joke, is Cal taking away Cousin's and MKG's scholarships.

Edit" I would add, that IMO he highly suggested Tyler to go.
 
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I hated it when he pushed Liggins, Teague, Lamb, Dakari, Briscoe, the Twins, WCS, Poythress, Humphries...

The real truth is that he suggests any potential 1st rounder to receive feedback and any lottery pick to go.

The only evidence of "pushing" someone out, which was an obvious joke, is Cal taking away Cousin's and MKG's scholarships.

Edit" I would add, that IMO he highly suggested Tyler to go.

"Push them out" just sounds so, dont know....

I think "needs some to leave" is a closer description.

If he did play the card with Bam, it's because Bamba was really a need and I always thought he was. If that's right I think we should be more careful from now on imo. Cals the best at recruiting, but I'm not sure we can bank on these top 5 guys the way we could a few years ago. Seems they are moving to a point where they couldn't care less about winning anyway.
 
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If Bridges had come to UK, he would be leaving after his Freshmen season and he would not have won a National Championship. Now The Spartans will be one of the favorites to win the title next season with what they have returning and who is coming in. Meanwhile, Cal has his ready made built in excuse all set for next season, "we are the youngest and least experience team in the country." Cal has had the top recruiting class in the country just about each year he has been w@ UK with one NCAA title to show for it.
 

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If Bridges had come to UK, he would be leaving after his Freshmen season and he would not have won a National Championship. Now The Spartans will be one of the favorites to win the title next season with what they have returning and who is coming in. Meanwhile, Cal has his ready made built in excuse all set for next season, "we are the youngest and least experience team in the country." Cal has had the top recruiting class in the country just about each year he has been w@ UK with one NCAA title to show for it.

So how did Izzo fare with a Fr laden/dependent roster this past season? It was putrid. And who did he call to ask how to coach a young team? And let's be honest, Izzo is the poster boy for why Calipari instructs those guys to turn pro. Name a year lately he's not had a kid get injured and miss significant amount of games/if not the season? (including Bridges).

You want to bash someone--at least support your argument with facts. You can't win the NC every year. You can contend. 8 years, 4 Final Fours, a NC, A Runner Up, and doing so with FR dominated teams. Young talent is great, but it's still young--and as Izzo found out--it takes a great coach to get them to win games.

BTW, before you call me a homer, I'm not a UK fan. Just live in reality where you can respect other programs and not hate for sake of fact you want to prove a point.
 

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I wish he was a little less pro nba...if their first inclination is to stay why push them so hard in the other direction?
 

Wall Knight Teague

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A simple understanding of our system, players comments, and common sense (to me) are enough to understand Cal does "push players out" or in lighter terms, "needs them to leave". I don't honestly see how that is some hard concept to accept when it's the only way He's able to do what he's able to do. You can't manage this system if players consistently return. And that's especially now, considering top 10 prospects will go anywhere. He can't scare them off. That's why he needed Bam to leave, because Bamba was "in the bag". IN 2009 he would have been.

To not accept this is to suggest that every coach in America can get guys to return, but Cal, the greatest salesman the game has ever seen, can't. Maybe it's Roys box of rings, or coach K's nose? Let's be real. He could.

Not an opinion on the idea itself, just that it does happen, and I once believed the opposite.
It's getting tiresome... it also leaves ZERO margin for error.

I thought it was recruit-speak for a long time but now I think Cal actually buys his own BS...
 

brianpoe

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It's getting tiresome... it also leaves ZERO margin for error.

I thought it was recruit-speak for a long time but now I think Cal actually buys his own BS...


Tiresome...there are only a couple of fanbases that wouldnt love to be so tired the last 7 years.

The results are what matters, not the bellyache fans get in between seasons.
 

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This probably isnt the answer ur looking for...but its great to see a kid take so much pride in his school that he wants to come back to go for a title. Its also refreshing to know that to some money isnt everything.
 

Bluejoe56

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A simple understanding of our system, players comments, and common sense (to me) are enough to understand Cal does "push players out" or in lighter terms, "needs them to leave". I don't honestly see how that is some hard concept to accept when it's the only way He's able to do what he's able to do. You can't manage this system if players consistently return. And that's especially now, considering top 10 prospects will go anywhere. He can't scare them off. That's why he needed Bam to leave, because Bamba was "in the bag". IN 2009 he would have been.

To not accept this is to suggest that every coach in America can get guys to return, but Cal, the greatest salesman the game has ever seen, can't. Maybe it's Roys box of rings, or coach K's nose? Let's be real. He could.

Not an opinion on the idea itself, just that it does happen, and I once believed the opposite.
Oh I know he does it on purpose, no doubt about it. The fact however is this, it has cost us at least 2 championships in my opinion. That is what drives me crazy, this program is almost like an after thought for him. Its like the kids come first, and if we end up in a few final fours....so be it. Again,if you are a fan of Kentucky Basketball, then that should make you mad as hell. Just my opinion, many dont like it and I am just fine with that.
 

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This probably isnt the answer ur looking for...but its great to see a kid take so much pride in his school that he wants to come back to go for a title. Its also refreshing to know that to some money isnt everything.

if the kid stays 4 years this statement would be true. until that happens, its just fans talking out their *** to further push a silly agenda.
 

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Cal has killed college basketball by making it seem like it';s about just getting drafted. While Cal is trying to play NBA GM mode some players like Miles just loves a program, shows heart and passion.


Miles drank the Spartan Green Kool-Aid that Izzo gave him, that's why he is returning!
 
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This probably isnt the answer ur looking for...but its great to see a kid take so much pride in his school that he wants to come back to go for a title. Its also refreshing to know that to some money isnt everything.

Surely you don't really think he came back out of pride for his school.
 

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So how did Izzo fare with a Fr laden/dependent roster this past season? It was putrid. And who did he call to ask how to coach a young team? And let's be honest, Izzo is the poster boy for why Calipari instructs those guys to turn pro. Name a year lately he's not had a kid get injured and miss significant amount of games/if not the season? (including Bridges).

You want to bash someone--at least support your argument with facts. You can't win the NC every year. You can contend. 8 years, 4 Final Fours, a NC, A Runner Up, and doing so with FR dominated teams. Young talent is great, but it's still young--and as Izzo found out--it takes a great coach to get them to win games.

BTW, before you call me a homer, I'm not a UK fan. Just live in reality where you can respect other programs and not hate for sake of fact you want to prove a point.
I totally agree with everything you said. I can't understand the mindset of all of these Cal haters on this board because we're in the hunt for a title basically every year. Cal's record here speaks for itself. If you're not happy with what you've seen then you will probably be perpetually miserable.
 
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brianpoe

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Oh I know he does it on purpose, no doubt about it. The fact however is this, it has cost us at least 2 championships in my opinion. That is what drives me crazy, this program is almost like an after thought for him. Its like the kids come first, and if we end up in a few final fours....so be it. Again,if you are a fan of Kentucky Basketball, then that should make you mad as hell. Just my opinion, many dont like it and I am just fine with that.


If you get "mad as hell" because a kid leaves school for a job and isnt around to entertain you, then you are a sad person.

You and a few others here are our Harvey Updyke.
 

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Oh I know he does it on purpose, no doubt about it. The fact however is this, it has cost us at least 2 championships in my opinion. That is what drives me crazy, this program is almost like an after thought for him. Its like the kids come first, and if we end up in a few final fours....so be it. Again,if you are a fan of Kentucky Basketball, then that should make you mad as hell. Just my opinion, many dont like it and I am just fine with that.

so real, living breathing people should take a back seat to you and your need to puff out your chest in the glory of amateur championship? i get the tag line "nothing is bigger than the program" but you get thats not really true right?
 

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If you get "mad as hell" because a kid leaves school for a job and isnt around to entertain you, then you are a sad person.

You and a few others here are our Harvey Updyke.
LMao...you are a perfect example of one of Cal's special troops....brainwashed...
 
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LMao...you are a perfect example of one of Cal's special troops....brainwashed...

you have convinced yourself that something as superficial as winning a title in college sports is more important than the lives and future of young adults....and you call others brainwashed.
 

Bluejoe56

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so real, living breathing people should take a back seat to you and your need to puff out your chest in the glory of amateur championship? i get the tag line "nothing is bigger than the program" but you get thats not really true right?
Amateur championship bud?lol...who are you a fan of? Surely not UK, right? Because no fan that I know would refer to Kentucky possibly winning the national championship in that type of manner. My god, please tell me you dont consider yourself a fan.
 
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Bluejoe56

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you have convinced yourself that something as superficial as winning a title in college sports is more important than the lives and future of young adults....and you call others brainwashed.
My God, you are a troll!!!!!!! No real UK fan would belittle our historic program like this, are your Celtics playing yet?
 

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This probably isnt the answer ur looking for...but its great to see a kid take so much pride in his school that he wants to come back to go for a title. Its also refreshing to know that to some money isnt everything.
Totally agree with you.

I am convinced that most posters on here aren't really Kentucky basketball fans.

They seem to worry about the GD NBA more than anything else.

I root for the name Kentucky across the jersey, and nothing else. And, I'm never going to apoligize for that....ever.
 

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Totally agree with you.

I am convinced that most posters on here aren't really Kentucky basketball fans.

They seem to worry about the GD NBA more than anything else.

I root for the name Kentucky across the jersey, and nothing else. And, I'm never going to apoligize for that....ever.

the thing is...there is a real person inside that jersey with a name on the back of it who cares about a whole lot more.
 

Bluejoe56

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the thing is...there is a real person inside that jersey with a name on the back of it who cares about a whole lot more.
And did you care about that before Cal came here? Of course not. You are supposed to want what is best for UK, not the desire for a teenager to be a millionaire. So which is it, you want to root for UK? Or do you want to root for future millionaires that you dont know and will most likely never meet?
 

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And did you care about that before Cal came here? Of course not. You are supposed to want what is best for UK, not the desire for a teenager to be a millionaire. So which is it, you want to root for UK? Or do you want to root for future millionaires that you dont know and will most likely never meet?

again this is about "being brainwashed". i actually went to uk, loved it, was a freshman when tubby won. great memories. hope to have some more. but uk isn the end all be all. its just sports....not that big of a deal. if a kid can transform his life for the better...have at it. i dont need a new t shirt that bad.
 

Bluejoe56

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again this is about "being brainwashed". i actually went to uk, loved it, was a freshman when tubby won. great memories. hope to have some more. but uk isn the end all be all. its just sports....not that big of a deal. if a kid can transform his life for the better...have at it. i dont need a new t shirt that bad.
If its not that important to you dude, you should move on and find a new hobby. No offense, it just does not seem like you care that much.
 
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Totally agree with you.

I am convinced that most posters on here aren't really Kentucky basketball fans.

They seem to worry about the GD NBA more than anything else.

I root for the name Kentucky across the jersey, and nothing else. And, I'm never going to apoligize for that....ever.

Most posters here aren't really UK fans? Put down the bath salts dude.