The guys words and demeanor are so similar to donavon it's crazy. Looking like he's gonna keep Florida at a high level. Great for the sec.
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Seems to be a very good coach. Needs to prove it as a recruiter.
I have said since the hire, they got a good one. Anyone hoping they'd suck with him are dreaming. He's a damn good coach who will be at a blue blood one day if he can recruit. That's all he's lacking right now.
Tubby and Billy say "Hi"
Those days are over and have been since the nineties , it's all about who's the coach and very little about the program name . Fans don't like to think that but it's true , times have changed .
So far his recruiting sucks, at least on paper. Lucked out getting Barry as a 5th year guy, not a lot of recruiting a guy like that. I suspect UF will slip a little in the next few years.
If Indiana got in a situation where the coaches on their list said no thanks, and they were stuck, he'd be a good bailout option.
He'd win with what they have (assuming they can maintain roster) and has enough coaching acumen to win with talent in, and around, the state.
Not what they want, but a good emergency guy. Better then ours in Gillispie.
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Its all about the coach at first, then the intangibles come in to play, facilitates, campus/town life, housing. Its like folks said even before Cal got to UK, just imagine what he will do there, is what the talk was and its true.
Winning helps with recruiting. More winning = more exposure = better recruiting. White will get some kids to come to Florida.
His recruiting is fine, has a good class coming in next season. He's probably never going to be a big 5 star guy, but neither was Donovan after his early years at UF. He's going the same route as Donovan - under the radar guys who have a chance to grow as basketball players and will stick around all four years. Maybe he'll occasionally get a Bradley Beal type like Donovan, who knows.
Just looked at ESPN.... has a top 10 class coming in. And has gotten a couple very good transfer w Barry and a kid from va-tech next year.
He was going to have an even better class at Memphis with the kid who's name I can't remember but went to Kansas . It has helped Cal some I will agree but it's a small part , if it was that big of a deal then we should have pulled far more talent than we did under our previous two coaches . When Cal leaves you'll see our recruiting take a potential massive drop if we don't land a top recruiter .
Which means the players don't care nowhere near as much about the school benefits as fans do , who think what they value is what the players will care about too . Fans want to stay in school forever because it's their program , most of the better recruits care about making a living by a large margin and they'll pick a school with much less benefits to get with the coach they prefer .
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Money. The chance to be an icon at one of basketballs more historic basketball brands.
He would be way down their list, but as a bailout option he'd be really good.
They haven't been a brand for a while..., other than as a spot coaches go to die.
Donovan proved what can be done at Florida. White's got a good thing going. Plus, I think he has Florida roots and a bunch of young kids. Dude ain't going to Bloomington!
They are bigger brand and a much better job than Florida. They haven't been good, that's a different argument.
He isn't a realistic option so it's a senseless conversation and you seem too incompetent to understand.
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I actually made a statement earlier. It was in response to someone else and mentioned him as a bailout option for IU. It wasn't open ended and had a definitive end.
You highlighted the post and asked, "Why would he leave Florida for IU?" By doing so it was you that created conversation. It was senseless because it isn't a realistic scenerio and your use of "lmao", and misuse of an ellipsis, exposed your ceiling.
You're not good at this.
Not totally. Who the coach was always mattered. Most kids are 4 year players who want to play at the big programs. That will never change. Top recruits always committed to the coach.
I highlighted your post about White having potential to be a blueblood coach someday and me agreeing and saying he could be an emergency option for IU if they were screwed.
It wasn't meant to be conversation at all. It was a statement.
Cal is a different breed. And Memphis has always had years of pulling good classes.
Tubby pulled the number 1 class in 2005. He can't do that at Minny, TT, UM, or any stop before that. The programs to matter, a great deal. A great coach just adds to it.
I've been privileged enough to be around top 150 players for the last 7-8 years in a small role as an assistant for an AAU team in Memphis and Nashville before that. Yes, they care about the programs.
IU could do a lot worse than White. He's gonna be a good one if he can recruit. And if he can recruit and they caught him early, they'd have a good one for the next 25 years. High risk high reward I guess in that scenario.
Not too senseless really. If names started falling off their list like wildfire he might even be considered.
That was what I was getting at and I agree.
You can talk basketball around here as long as youre UK blind and never mention anything potentially positive (directly or indirectly) about any team that has any history at all.
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So I initiated the "senseless conversation" by asking a "why?" to earlier YOUR suggestion.
Gotcha!
You may want to look up the definition of "initiate".
And I'm the one who is not good at this?
You asked "why" to a statement I made, a dead ended statement. That was the initiation of conversation because it is what "initiated" it, with "it" being conversation.
It was "senseless" because it wasn't a realistic scenerio, at this time, and not worth discussion. Especially with you and your discussion ability.
You really do have s**t for brains don't you? Sharpen your pencil before coming back please.
I'm not sure... ask the guy who initiated it.
I inquired as to why White would leave Florida for IU.
The discussion was deemed a senseless by the same guy who first offered the idea.
I don't think it is senseless from the standpoint of White having the potential to be great at IU.
But from the little I know about him... I do see it unlikely he would make such move. As I recall... he said he had held out hope for the Florida job, as he has up-bringing and family ties to the state. And I think he has a bunch of young kids. He seems to have a good thing going at Florida, so I would be surprised to see him uproot and head to Bloomington.
All that said--- Florida is gonna have to pay the man!
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Why was it a dead-end statement? Perhaps you can create some sort of punctuation mark notating this.
At risk of sending you into a tizzy... I feel compelled to inform you---the topic carried with another poster. You better tell him that further discussion or inquiry is forbidden. You have deemed it a "dead-end".
Please note... this is a "dead-end" topic. Further inquiry or discussion is strictly prohibited.
I think kyboy likes Indiana. The way he talks them up , it's like a young man in love and won't shut up about her