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So why can't the young guys excel and the recruits we have stay on board, sans the statue QBs and the OL who can't move???

Mike Riley is a scheme that doesn't work anymore

Bottom friggin line

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That is a problem with Riley's offensive system at least (not sure about Diaco's side). I can't find the thread (I'm sure it's buried somewhere a few pages back), but someone chronicled each QB's statistical output by years in the system. It wasn't pretty and took until usually year 3 for a QB to sniff all-conference level if they ever did.
 

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That is a problem with Riley's offensive system at least (not sure about Diaco's side). I can't find the thread (I'm sure it's buried somewhere a few pages back), but someone chronicled each QB's statistical output by years in the system. It wasn't pretty and took until usually year 3 for a QB to sniff all-conference level if they ever did.

Here's the link. Remember...this was supposed to be the strong side of our team this year. Cost me $400 bucks, goddamit...

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/nnd/schedule/
 

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I disagree with this part. I think Oregon would learn to not take their foot off the gas. Same could be said about the Miami game in 2015.

I totally disagree also. If they came out in the 2nd half with the same offense they used to horribly cremate us in the 1st half.......they very well might have scored 100 or more points.
 

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I would bet that IF we got to play NIU this weekend again we would beat them by 3 TDs at least. I would bet that IF we got to play Oregon again, we would beat them. Our D has progressed and Lee is making fewer mistakes with the ball. We were right there with Wisconsin until the 4th quarter and Morgan's giveaway made that final score look worse than it was. We aren't that far off IMO. Can Riley get us over the hump? That's the debate. Some say no way. Some of us say maybe. IF we fire Riley and hire somebody else, the answer for the next guy is still MAYBE.

Well here is the thing. Have we gotten better? Probably. And they probably have too. To think that we would beat them right now is no different than Arkansas State thinking they would beat us right now if they replayed. Keep in mind.....Arkansas State was closer to beating us than we were of NIU.

I think too many people are doing the what IF thing too much and not doing the what IS thing. This IS not a great team right now and borderline whether they are a good team. I guess it depends on what your definition of good is. We are likely to get beat really bad in two of our remainder games and are likely to be underdogs in some of the rest of them. I certainly don't see us being favored by much more than a few points the rest of the year. That is the IS as of right now.

I think many of us have relegated ourselves to what these coaches are and some of us are still trying to analyze it away. Occams Razor might be the best analysis. Sometimes the simplest answer is the easiest. MR is destined to be a mediocre coach.
 

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I would bet that IF we got to play NIU this weekend again we would beat them by 3 TDs at least. I would bet that IF we got to play Oregon again, we would beat them. Our D has progressed and Lee is making fewer mistakes with the ball. We were right there with Wisconsin until the 4th quarter and Morgan's giveaway made that final score look worse than it was. We aren't that far off IMO. Can Riley get us over the hump? That's the debate. Some say no way. Some of us say maybe. IF we fire Riley and hire somebody else, the answer for the next guy is still MAYBE.
If IFS and BUTs were candies and nuts...
 

genetics56

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2-9 (year before Alvarez) is better than 1-10 (Alvarez first season).

The goal posts aren't gonna move on this one, Sandusky junior.

are you mentally challenged or just looking for a stupid fight tonight? Do you have a clue on what improved play looks like? Let me guess, you think Tanner Lee is amazing and Riley will win big at Nebraska.

some people are just dumb. BA's team were immediately more sound in their play and as his teams continued to improve they had a big breakthrough year in 93'. Go and watch some of his games from those years.
 

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are you mentally challenged or just looking for a stupid fight tonight? Do you have a clue on what improved play looks like?

Year one is immediately. Not year 2, 3 , 4 or 5+. You said immediately. Now, you're moving the goal posts.
 
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Can anyone guess who said this:

(Sept. 20):"I hired the wrong (expletive) guys and are still working our way through a bunch of recruiting years that stunk!! It's year three! If these (expletives) can't get it right I will not just say fire them and start over!! That's not the way to go about it. If I (expletive) it up that bad I will take the bullet and ride off into the sunset! I will stay old school!! I will not die doing this (expletive)!! Stay tuned!"

I'll just leave it at that.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2017/10/canzano_gary_andersens_exit_ro.html
 

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Can anyone guess who said this:

(Sept. 20):"I hired the wrong (expletive) guys and are still working our way through a bunch of recruiting years that stunk!! It's year three! If these (expletives) can't get it right I will not just say fire them and start over!! That's not the way to go about it. If I (expletive) it up that bad I will take the bullet and ride off into the sunset! I will stay old school!! I will not die doing this (expletive)!! Stay tuned!"

I'll just leave it at that.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2017/10/canzano_gary_andersens_exit_ro.html

The guy you wanted at Nebraska, who couldn't cut it at Oregon State and quit on 100+ kids. Great guy there!
 

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in an interview today that Nebraska has the resources and fan base to return to glory, to be an elite team. But... he says it takes time.

Ok. I absolutely agree it takes time and a lot of hard work and patience to hang with the big boys again. I agree with that and I am not being sarcastic.

But I have one question for coach Riley: how many years will it take us to be better than NIU, Oregon and Wisconsin?
What is one thing all three of those programs have in common? They all have played in a bcs bowl since Nebraska last played in one.

We also beat Oregon last year, was within one play the previous two years of beating Wisconsin and gifted NIU 14 points this year which cost us the game. Nebraska has had a problem of letting the negative affect their play and that was true before Mike Riley got here. It is like the fans and the team expect bad things to happen. The players need to learn how to win again.
 

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Year one is immediately. Not year 2, 3 , 4 or 5+. You said immediately. Now, you're moving the goal posts.

Sandusky junior about to have a meltdown.

Yep, you are just one of those dump people that are a Riley supporter.

BA had an immediate impact on his team by having them play more sound football. Notice I didn't say he immediately made them amazingly more talented. He recruited that talent into the program that played at a much higher level than incoming players than the previous guy. His first class is the class that got the breakthrough in 93'.

Now I know why some are nutty enough to think just by giving Riley more time will make all of the difference in the world. Some fans are just incompetent football observers.
 

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I would bet that IF we got to play NIU this weekend again we would beat them by 3 TDs at least. I would bet that IF we got to play Oregon again, we would beat them. Our D has progressed and Lee is making fewer mistakes with the ball. We were right there with Wisconsin until the 4th quarter and Morgan's giveaway made that final score look worse than it was. We aren't that far off IMO. Can Riley get us over the hump? That's the debate. Some say no way. Some of us say maybe. IF we fire Riley and hire somebody else, the answer for the next guy is still MAYBE.

I’d be inclined to agree. Except that we looked like total **** against Arkansas state as well, that game could have gone either way. At some point, people will admit we are as good as our record.

The rest of the spin and bull in this thread doesn’t matter squat. We have played 1 good team 1 mediocre team and 4 dogshit teams and are 3-3.
 

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The guy you wanted at Nebraska, who couldn't cut it at Oregon State and quit on 100+ kids. Great guy there!

That "I wanted at Nebraska", am I reading you correctly? If so, you are mistaken because a). I did not want gary anderson here and b). I wasn't around here in 2015
 

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When Barry took over at WI his teams were immediately better than the other guy.

Great coaches don't take 3 years to show improvement in play. Bad coaches don't even show improvement within 3 years.

Look at Bowden when he took over at FSU. His teams were immediately better. Same with Spurrier at Florida.

Herman is starting to get Texas to play a lot better and it is his first year there.
how ****** were the rosters at FSU and UF? Because our roster sucks ***
 

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What is one thing all three of those programs have in common? They all have played in a bcs bowl since Nebraska last played in one.

We also beat Oregon last year, was within one play the previous two years of beating Wisconsin and gifted NIU 14 points this year which cost us the game. Nebraska has had a problem of letting the negative affect their play and that was true before Mike Riley got here. It is like the fans and the team expect bad things to happen. The players need to learn how to win again.

Well, except that we're losing way, wayyyyy more than we have since Clowhahan.

And we still get totally cremated by the good teams.
 
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Osborne abandoned Riley?

Holy crap, how far will you guys go?

You know Osborne does not work for the AD, right?
Uh huh. I'm positive he is unattached. Must be why he has been on campus so much after "giving up" his box.
 

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I would bet that IF we got to play NIU this weekend again we would beat them by 3 TDs at least. I would bet that IF we got to play Oregon again, we would beat them. Our D has progressed and Lee is making fewer mistakes with the ball. We were right there with Wisconsin until the 4th quarter and Morgan's giveaway made that final score look worse than it was. We aren't that far off IMO. Can Riley get us over the hump? That's the debate. Some say no way. Some of us say maybe. IF we fire Riley and hire somebody else, the answer for the next guy is still MAYBE.
you know what they say about if's and buts
 

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How did Oregon do that? Your words couldn't be more false...

Oregon, in the 3Q, ran the ball less times than they did in the 1Q or 2Q. They also threw the ball less, thanks to Nebraska running more plays in the very same 3Q than we did the previous 2 quarters. Add in the interception and Nebraska cutting it to 14 with 1.5 quarters remaining in the game.

From that point, Oregon still tried to move the ball. They struggled. Not because they took their foot off the gas but because Nebraska had seized momentum from halftime adjustments.

At some point, when ya shut a team out while closing the deficit, you have to credit the team closing the gap instead of saying the other took off the gas pedal.

We can discuss the Oregon play calling as well, but you don't like that discussion as it tears apart your inaccurate opinion.
We already debated this, and I discussed the Oregon play calling in a thread earlier this year. Oregon absolutely did take their foot off the gas.
 

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Look, all you guys calling for restraint and for everyone to calm down and let things play out and give Riley time make solid arguments. You sound like the reasonable adults in a room of panicked children who are all throwing **** at each other. And those of us who keep pointing out how crappy this season is can come across as the typical "fire all those bastards" fans who are all emotion and no reason.

But... I know that what I am watching, and have been watching for years now (not just Riley), is NOT where I want NU to be. And those of us watching this year's team are not just raving nutjobs for raising very serious questions about Riley. I admit it. I ain't sold on the dude. And this year's team, no matter how you spin it, is just not very good.
Many Riley supporters on this board rarely act like adults and Riley critics aren't panicked or emotional. There's very good reason to be critical of this coaching staff.
 

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We already debated this, and I discussed the Oregon play calling in a thread earlier this year. Oregon absolutely did take their foot off the gas.



You haven't been right about anything, including the above.
 
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I’d be inclined to agree. Except that we looked like total **** against Arkansas state as well, that game could have gone either way. At some point, people will admit we are as good as our record.

The rest of the spin and bull in this thread doesn’t matter squat. We have played 1 good team 1 mediocre team and 4 dogshit teams and are 3-3.

Yes, that pretty much says it all.
 
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We need to get Frost in this week. If he does not win conference by 2019 move to the next guy. Open the checkbook and get it done.
 

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Many Riley supporters on this board rarely act like adults and Riley critics aren't panicked or emotional.
Sure doesn't seem to be the case with multiple "Riley needs to go" threads being created. Also a handful of 'new' posters popping up too.

Many Riley supporters do act like adults (while some haven't) and some Riley critics are panicked and emotional (while some aren't). Easy to say both sides have people acting like children, emotional and panicky.

Pennsy was spot on.
 

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Sure doesn't seem to be the case with multiple "Riley needs to go" threads being created. Also a handful of 'new' posters popping up too.

Many Riley supporters do act like adults (while some haven't) and some Riley critics are panicked and emotional (while some aren't). Easy to say both sides have people acting like children, emotional and panicky.

Pennsy was spot on.
Why would a Riley critic be panicked ?

Yeah, don't you just hate those posters that cal people names? I wonder why they do that?
 

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Sure doesn't seem to be the case with multiple "Riley needs to go" threads being created. Also a handful of 'new' posters popping up too.

Many Riley supporters do act like adults (while some haven't) and some Riley critics are panicked and emotional (while some aren't). Easy to say both sides have people acting like children, emotional and panicky.

Pennsy was spot on.
There's a reason people want Riley gone. It's not an emotional or panicked line of thinking. There's some very good reasons why Riley should not be here next year. There's also some good reasons why he should stay. Which side wins out is up for debate. To think that one group of people are panicked and emotional and the other side isn't is silly. Like you said, it comes from both sides. Both sides have some nutty posters and both sides have very reasonable posters.
 
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Lol. 2014. That's a riot.
Yeah, that was some typo. It still blows my mind to think that virtually no 18-22 year old undergrad at NU has any memory of our last sniff at glory, which was the Miami blowout loss in the Rose Bowl 16 frickin years ago. Of course, I kind of wish I hadn’t been at that game and had no memory of it either, but to think it’s the last time we have been relevant nationally is just mind boggling.

And now it appears we may embark on yet another rebuilding effort with a new coach. I really wonder if I will live long enough to see this program win even a conference title. A National Championship?That I would bet won’t happen in my lifetime and maybe not in my grandkids’ lifetimes either. Of course, it’s just a game, but we wouldn’t post on this board if it didn’t matter in our lives. Too much, I suppose.
 
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