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well crap. If we completely scrap what we've been doing and start over with a totally new playbook, I think we're screwed for another year.
well crap. If we completely scrap what we've been doing and start over with a totally new playbook, I think we're screwed for another year.
Cant imagine they would do that, knowing they need to win now.
IF they have "free reign" that would sound like it will be a new offense. IMO, that would be foolish. It's a lot easier for an OC and WR coach to tweak their concepts to an existing playbook and terminology than to scrap the whole thing. Given some of the issues our WRs have had with learning our old offense, I can only imagine what having to learn a whole new system will mean.
Over a period of time our offense may evolve, but dont think we will see a giant swing next year. But it also could depend on who we get at QB
If they don't scrap that pathetic offense and play calling then they are SCREWED anyway!! Can't be any worse than what has been going on last 4 years.well crap. If we completely scrap what we've been doing and start over with a totally new playbook, I think we're screwed for another year.
That being said, I'll believe when I SEE IT..
Said this a thousand times already. It wasn't the offensive scheme that was the problem, it was the INABILITY to get the players in the right mindset to push thru close games to win them. We'll see whether or not the new offensive coaches can change that.
But personally I'd be most impressed if Frost actually hired a motivational expert and really listened to that person. Frost needs a motivational coach for himself, first and foremost IMO.
But personally I'd be most impressed if Frost actually hired a motivational expert and really listened to that person. Frost needs a motivational coach for himself, first and foremost IMO.
Is there an offense that never worked at some point in time? They all work, but you better have players who can execute and we have not had that.
And the play calling complaint is based on what criteria? The fact a play doesn't work? Get some players who know and execute fundamentals and the "play calling" suddenly gets better.
And the play calling complaint is based on what criteria? The fact a play doesn't work? Get some players who know and execute fundamentals and the "play calling" suddenly gets better.
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Oh noes! How will we ever get those 4 wins???well crap. If we completely scrap what we've been doing and start over with a totally new playbook, I think we're screwed for another year.
Well, the benefit of hiring this guy was supposedly his play calling and QB coaching. I'm sick of losing and would like the winning to start now. Now you're asking the players to start over with new terminology. Even IF the offense used the same terminology, just learning new routes etc will take time. I just think given what I perceive to be the urgency for Nebraska, I think it's unwise to re-invent the wheel. We moved the ball. We just needed a QB coach and play caller who could score in the red zone. Pitt scored TDs roughly 70% of the time in the redzone.
I dunno. Maybe it will be great but I'm having my doubts at this point. IF we thought this was going to be a longer term commitment to a new offense, then I could see this being logical. IF Frost has A year, then this makes no sense. JMO. I've been wondering to some degree if some of this isn't wanting to emulate the offenses which are having the most success this year. Alabama, Michigan, Georgia, Cincinnati are all more pro-style offenses I think. Even though OSU runs a spread their passing game is more drop back than it is RPO with Stroud.
The offense we had was the result of bad offensive line and not being able to run with a running back, well, consistently
This isn't really that hard. Improve the OL play and things will magically turn around.
The game is won on the trenches. Look at our defense and how much it improved with better front 7, especially our DL.
This isn't really that hard. Improve the OL play and things will magically turn around.
The game is won on the trenches. Look at our defense and how much it improved with better front 7, especially our DL.
Much of our defensive improvement was having almost all of the guys having had 3 years to rep their assignments and get comfortable. I think it was JJ Watt who said that when Wisconsin switched to the 3-4, it took 3 years to really get things right and be able to play fast. (I know it was a former Wisconsin player who played in the NFL) I think in most cases in college it takes 2 years for a new offense to get rolling.
I think our entire offense was poorly managed. I'm hoping a new staff will be for the better. I believe it is hard to quantify what you're saying, even though you may be spot on.
I will say I've watched enough football to see quick turn-arounds, and also some staffs that never get it right.
Let's just hope these new offensive teachers bring some energy and good fundamental football.
I’m going to wait and see who the hell we pick up for QB‘s..
We need two quarterbacks whether they come from the portal or transfer..
Still think TA is telling SF let these guys evaluate and form the offense in what will work for them..
Hard to believe SF would just dump his style of offense without being told so..
We need two quarterbacks whether they come from the portal or transfer..
Still think TA is telling SF let these guys evaluate and form the offense in what will work for them..
Hard to believe SF would just dump his style of offense without being told so..
If you look at the offensive concepts that Whipple ran at Pitt, you will see a lot of RPO, just like Frost ran. Pitt had a 1st round NFL pick at QB so the pass was more prevalent than the run. Regardless they still ran the ball about half the time. I think Whipple will concentrate more on match ups than anything. He seemed to do a good job at getting his best players the ball, especially in 2021. If they had a Heisman caliber RB I would bet he would have ran the ball more.
we will see.
we will see.
Good. Maybe one of the new assts has a clue about how to turn yards and red zone trips into points.
For everyone wetting their pants, Frost is the HC, so his decisions are the final ones. I don’t think Frost, Joseph, Raiola and Whipple have a prior work history, so they’ll have to make sure they are on the same page. There’s some good **** in Frosts playbook and I’m sure Whipple has some good **** too. If only the problem were the playbook instead of preparation and execution.
Maybe it is semantics, but I don't think TA told Frost as much as convinced him it was the best path forward.
I just don't buy some of the thoughts on here that TA is driving everything. He isn't a coach and other than cutting a FB program at UNO he has no real experience leading a program. To me he seems much more likely to be leading Frost in the direction he wants without coming off as telling him.
Frost is too proud and arrogant to have someone "tell" him what to do".
Whose terminology do they take forward? Does Whipple adopt Frost's or does the entire team and a new QB adopt Whipple's?
All Offensive coaches will need to adapt in some way.
You may be right, maybe I’m jumping to a conclusion because it’s hard to believe SF wouldn‘t have any influence in some of the offense that he wants to run being the head coach..
Better execution in the red zone would turn losses into wins..
QB coach at New Hampshire when Kelly was a player.
I swear this group is never happy! All season long we complained SF needed to give up play calling, coaches needed to be fired, AM needs to leave, and the list goes on. Now that most of it has happened we flip and start complaining in reverse! Makes no sense. Lets just sit back and hope we turn the corner and go into this new venture on a positive note.
Starting to look like a good hire more each day.
Known as a fixer with a proven track record on developing QBs.
We really got to get the right one in the portal. We'll have Whipple for 3 or 4 years I'd say. Let's go!
SI piece intimated that Frost was trying to clear the responsibility of running the offense. Ultimately both these guys spring from the same place offensively.
I for one glad that SF isn’t calling plays thinking he is TO..
Not knowing much about RaIola as the O-Line coach, I think Joesph and Whipple are great hires for the offense..
Now it comes down to who will be coaching RB’s and who will be responsible for ST, which is one of the biggest reason why SF doesn’t have winning record in Lincoln..
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Well they've been in the top 1/3rd last 4 years in yards and pts per game in Big 10 and always rack up a lot of pts and yds against Top 5 D Wisky. So ya things aren't all doom and gloom, don't be so dramatic.
If they strike out on a QB in the portal, Frost and Whipple will be able to make things work with Smothers. I think a lot of the plays found in both Frost and Whipple’s playbook will work fine if Raiola can get more out of the offensive line. If Jurgens stays and Teddy has a rehab without setback, he is much closer to solving that problem. Has anyone heard word on the RB coach? Do they roll with Brown?
1st and foremost it starts with solid stout OL play which was completely deplorable last year and is probably the worst OL we've had since Bob Devaney took over in 62 as that OL cost us 70% of games last year. That OL needs to get up to par and needs to learn how to be mean, nasty and vicious then this O will start to shine and become lethal like it was meant to be. This O will be a blend of Frost's and Whipple's philosophies. Whipple was Frost's target from day 1 which started only a couple of days after the great purge of our former asistants and someone nobody we knew was in the mix until a couple of days before we hired him. Frost and Whipple think quite a bit alike and their philosophies alsmost mirror each other.
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Great points. I admire Martinez and wish him the best, but him leaving at least gives us the opportunity to have a higher ceiling re: QB play next year, which may result in more wins. I think the OL will be better simply due to maturation, but another portal guy or two couldn't hurt.
I guess I'm the only one that hasn't given up on Smothers. I think the right play-calling and some better OL play, he could be very successful. I thought he looked rather promising in the Iowa game.
With that said, I'm certainly not against getting a stud or two via recruiting/transfer portal
With that said, I'm certainly not against getting a stud or two via recruiting/transfer portal
I think most just assume that Smothers is not going to be able to get things done. I don't know that, but I doubt NU is going to get a QB that will make it such that Smothers is a lock to carry the clipboard (or transfer). He will compete for the job.
Couldn't agree more, give me an accurate qb who can make quick reads, an o-line that's not one of the worst in the nation and running backs that don't trip over their feet on the way into the end zone and this offense as a whole is damn good.
Hopefully an open competition at QB with new evaluators will lead to solid and possibly better play on average than we've had the past couple of years. Who knows who'll be starting, but I think this is the best process to produce the best outcome.
good points. I really didn't watch much of Pitt this year and I didn't pay any attention to what they were running on offense the little bit I did watch them. Hopefully he can come in and not screw with the terminology.