Michigan Recruiting

SOCALHSKR

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Interesting of 27 recruits only two from Mich. 3 from CT and several sates at 3 & 4.
 

dinglefritz

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Interesting of 27 recruits only two from Mich. 3 from CT and several sates at 3 & 4.
Could it be that people who really know Harbaugh don't like Harbaugh? They've got a very good class once again but it's a little odd that there aren't more kids from Michigan in it than there are.
 

Solana Beach Husker

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Could it be that people who really know Harbaugh don't like Harbaugh? They've got a very good class once again but it's a little odd that there aren't more kids from Michigan in it than there are.
Or he has realized that recruiting from the north hasn't won michigan anything...speed, speed, speed, speed, speed....Michigan has one of the most physically impressive teams in the nation...a tremendous S @ C program...yet...you get them in space and they are vulnerable...plus in Michigan you are recruiting 3 sport athletes who are inside doing BB, Wrestling, for at least a third of the year...if you recruit warm climates you start getting full year round football players..much more polished. Or maybe they didn't like the michigan talent. The urban landscape in michigan has changed dramatically...and rural michigan is little different from rural nebraska. The only rural areas in the country with CF talent happen to be in the south.
 

dinglefritz

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Or he has realized that recruiting from the north hasn't won michigan anything...speed, speed, speed, speed, speed....Michigan has one of the most physically impressive teams in the nation...a tremendous S @ C program...yet...you get them in space and they are vulnerable...plus in Michigan you are recruiting 3 sport athletes who are inside doing BB, Wrestling, for at least a third of the year...if you recruit warm climates you start getting full year round football players..much more polished. Or maybe they didn't like the michigan talent. The urban landscape in michigan has changed dramatically...and rural michigan is little different from rural nebraska. The only rural areas in the country with CF talent happen to be in the south.
The state of Michigan has roughly 4 times the population of Nebraska and a large urban minority population.
 

Solana Beach Husker

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The state of Michigan has roughly 4 times the population of Nebraska and a large urban minority population.

so does Chicago. How many great football players come out of Chicago? The culture, climate matter in terms of producing football players. The cold winter has a big impact on football development in those regions...and instead kids play basketball and the great athletes waste their talent trying to make the NBA...and kids who want to play basketball are not weightlifting full year round and are not built for college football even if they have the frame. Kids in the south are not going to sit in a gym and play basketball when the weather is 50-60+ all year round...they grow up surrounded by good to great college football and intense rivalries...the urban areas that feed Ann Arbor are collapsing and the population leaving...and if you go to other areas of Michigan you run into Michigan State territory. Football isn't dead but there is a reason the big 10 is continually outclassed by nearly every warm weather conference...if the big 10 had to rely solely on regional talent it would turn into the MAC, but it still has the money and name recognition to pull talent from warmer regions. This is why I still maintain our move to the big 10 was an ignorant and shortsighted move...we moved ourself away from warm weather recruiting grounds into regions with poor, cold weather talent. And our conference can't get a team in the playoff.
 
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dinglefritz

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so does Chicago. How many great football players come out of Chicago? The culture, climate matter in terms of producing football players. The cold winter has a big impact on football development in those regions...and instead kids play basketball and the great athletes waste their talent trying to make the NBA...and kids who want to play basketball are not weightlifting full year round and are not built for college football even if they have the frame. Kids in the south are not going to sit in a gym and play basketball when the weather is 50-60+ all year round...they grow up surrounded by good to great college football and intense rivalries...the urban areas that feed Ann Arbor are collapsing and the population leaving...and if you go to other areas of Michigan you run into Michigan State territory. Football isn't dead but there is a reason the big 10 is continually outclassed by nearly every warm weather conference...if the big 10 had to rely solely on regional talent it would turn into the MAC, but it still has the money and name recognition to pull talent from warmer regions. This is why I still maintain our move to the big 10 was an ignorant and shortsighted move...we moved ourself away from warm weather recruiting grounds into regions with poor, cold weather talent. And our conference can't get a team in the playoff.
MSU has I believe 6 - 5.7 or better 3 and 4 star recruits on their commitment list.....and Michigan signed 2 kids from the state? Frankly I don't really care what Michigan does I still find it odd that they only signed 2 kids from the state of Michigan with a greater than 10 million population base.
 
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TheBeav815

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so does Chicago. How many great football players come out of Chicago? The culture, climate matter in terms of producing football players. The cold winter has a big impact on football development in those regions...and instead kids play basketball and the great athletes waste their talent trying to make the NBA...and kids who want to play basketball are not weightlifting full year round and are not built for college football even if they have the frame. Kids in the south are not going to sit in a gym and play basketball when the weather is 50-60+ all year round...they grow up surrounded by good to great college football and intense rivalries...the urban areas that feed Ann Arbor are collapsing and the population leaving...and if you go to other areas of Michigan you run into Michigan State territory. Football isn't dead but there is a reason the big 10 is continually outclassed by nearly every warm weather conference...if the big 10 had to rely solely on regional talent it would turn into the MAC, but it still has the money and name recognition to pull talent from warmer regions. This is why I still maintain our move to the big 10 was an ignorant and shortsighted move...we moved ourself away from warm weather recruiting grounds into regions with poor, cold weather talent. And our conference can't get a team in the playoff.
This is quite a list of totally unsubstantiated claims. Anything else you wanna throw in there that sounds like it could be plausibly related to Old Man Winter killing football but for which you provide no actual evidence? Michigan can't be good because of seasonal depression maybe? Lack of offensive potency due to altered circadian rhythms from darker Novembers?

Meanwhile, start talking about Wisconsin and everyone will jump on the notion that stars don't matter and we just need to throw a bunch of 6-5, 310 pound German kids together out in the cold until an NFL offensive line breaks out...
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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Michigan gives no creedance to in state players - they go after the very best in their eyes. Some of that may bite them as they may get more out of a 4 star from Michigan that idolizes the program versus a player from Florida. On the other hand seeing Michigan land 15 4 stars - the majority of which are outside their immediate recruiting area including a 5 star from Oklahoma should quell the woe is me attitude of many on how we our recruiting is limited due to geography.

As many have indicated in the past Michigan is very elitist. It is one of the top public schools in the nation. It is extremely difficult for even an instate kid to get accepted to the school. An act score of 29 puts you in the 25th percentile.
 

cecilB

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Could it be that people who really know Harbaugh don't like Harbaugh? They've got a very good class once again but it's a little odd that there aren't more kids from Michigan in it than there are.
the academic prestige of the University allows for National footprint like no other in the B1G. It's on the heels of NW coupled with a distinguished FB heritage. I wouldn't read anymore into it than they went after who they wanted to go after in Michigan.
 

phoenix4nu

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the academic prestige of the University allows for National footprint like no other in the B1G. It's on the heels of NW coupled with a distinguished FB heritage. I wouldn't read anymore into it than they went after who they wanted to go after in Michigan.
Thanks for educating us.
 

TheBeav815

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the academic prestige of the University allows for National footprint like no other in the B1G. It's on the heels of NW coupled with a distinguished FB heritage. I wouldn't read anymore into it than they went after who they wanted to go after in Michigan.
According to Michigan alums, UM belongs somewhere between Brown and Colgate in the listing of America's most impressive academic institutions. Meanwhile, in the real world, I've heard zero people act impressed upon hearing that somebody did their undergrad in Ann Arbor.

Good school, but the only people who think Michigan's academics have a "National footprint like no other" are people who went to Michigan.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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According to Michigan alums, UM belongs somewhere between Brown and Colgate in the listing of America's most impressive academic institutions. Meanwhile, in the real world, I've heard zero people act impressed upon hearing that somebody did their undergrad in Ann Arbor.

Good school, but the only people who think Michigan's academics have a "National footprint like no other" are people who went to Michigan.


Judging from their endowment grads seem to enjoy a fair amount of success. Top 10 in the nation in endowments - and depending on the ranking the highest or second highest public school on that list.

11.9 billion endowment.
Nebraska’s for comparison is about 1.5 billion

In general undergrad is more about the student than the university - grad school is a different story.
 
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Huzkers25

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so does Chicago. How many great football players come out of Chicago? The culture, climate matter in terms of producing football players. The cold winter has a big impact on football development in those regions...and instead kids play basketball and the great athletes waste their talent trying to make the NBA...and kids who want to play basketball are not weightlifting full year round and are not built for college football even if they have the frame. Kids in the south are not going to sit in a gym and play basketball when the weather is 50-60+ all year round...they grow up surrounded by good to great college football and intense rivalries...the urban areas that feed Ann Arbor are collapsing and the population leaving...and if you go to other areas of Michigan you run into Michigan State territory. Football isn't dead but there is a reason the big 10 is continually outclassed by nearly every warm weather conference...if the big 10 had to rely solely on regional talent it would turn into the MAC, but it still has the money and name recognition to pull talent from warmer regions. This is why I still maintain our move to the big 10 was an ignorant and shortsighted move...we moved ourself away from warm weather recruiting grounds into regions with poor, cold weather talent. And our conference can't get a team in the playoff.

This is comical on so many levels. Big 10 has a down year and “chicken little” mentality kicks in. Your warm weather conferences are really out classing the Big10.... the ACC and PAC 12 are superior? The Big12 had (1) good team and Sec has been the tops for a few years but minus Bama and a few runs by tiger teams they are overrated Conf. top to bottom IMO. Continuously outclassed, not true.

You say playing one sport and lifting weights translates to better players football players?? As a 14-18 year old kid that would that make them more inclined to burn out of the sport then help. I guarentee more college football players across the country played multiple sports than not.
 

TheBeav815

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Judging from their endowment grads seem to enjoy a fair amount of success. Top 10 in the nation in endowments - and depending on the ranking the highest or second highest public school on that list.

11.9 billion endowment.
Nebraska’s for comparison is about 1.5 billion

In general undergrad is more about the student than the university - grad school is a different story.
I'd hazard a guess that plenty of schools that cost more than double what NU does in tuition have significantly larger endowments as well. Out of state tuition at UM is about $47K/year.
 

Solana Beach Husker

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This is comical on so many levels. Big 10 has a down year and “chicken little” mentality kicks in. Your warm weather conferences are really out classing the Big10.... the ACC and PAC 12 are superior? The Big12 had (1) good team and Sec has been the tops for a few years but minus Bama and a few runs by tiger teams they are overrated Conf. top to bottom IMO. Continuously outclassed, not true.

You say playing one sport and lifting weights translates to better players football players?? As a 14-18 year old kid that would that make them more inclined to burn out of the sport then help. I guarentee more college football players across the country played multiple sports than not.

2017 Alabama CFP
2016 Clemson CFP
2015 Alabama CFP
2014 Ohio State CFP
2013 Florida State BCS
2012 Alabama BCS
2011 Alabama BCS
2010 Auburn BCS
2009 Alabama BCS
2008 Florida BCS
2007 Louisiana State BCS
2006 Florida BCS
2005 Texas BCS
2004 Southern California BCS
2003 Louisiana State, Southern California BCS, AP, FWAA


Cold weather schools in bold....suck it.
 

pistol55

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Could it be that people who really know Harbaugh don't like Harbaugh? They've got a very good class once again but it's a little odd that there aren't more kids from Michigan in it than there are.
what a dumb comment. maybe they got the kids from michigan that they wanted? so only kids from out of state like him? based on their rankings it sure doesn't look like michigan settled on just people that "like" harbaugh.
 

cecilB

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According to Michigan alums, UM belongs somewhere between Brown and Colgate in the listing of America's most impressive academic institutions. Meanwhile, in the real world, I've heard zero people act impressed upon hearing that somebody did their undergrad in Ann Arbor.

Good school, but the only people who think Michigan's academics have a "National footprint like no other" are people who went to Michigan.
you need to meet more influential friends.
 

cecilB

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I'd hazard a guess that plenty of schools that cost more than double what NU does in tuition have significantly larger endowments as well. Out of state tuition at UM is about $47K/year.
endowments have ZERO to do with tuition dollars.