Micah Clark

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And? That has to do with? You made a comment that Greggy would still get who ever he wanted from Florida and I only countered with the fact that there are additional Florida schools playing meaningful football games that he would be recruiting against. He wasnt worrying about Central Florida or Florida Atlantic back then for 2 schools. Miami Florida and Florida State are all on the upswing again. So again my statement merely had to do with Florida recruiting. It is obvious that the 2006 teams would crush this years team.
How about the 2003 team?
 
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Your equating money, position with success. It's completely different. NFL Coach = Fail, DC at Ohio State = a couple of steps back(and new coach canned him), 'offered' the Pats DC job(not a head Coach job) = wifey didn't let him take it. Besides, never said he wasn't a very good D Coach, just not a Head Coach. Throw in his vanity, inability to be 'players' coach, and you have a guy who maxed his potential at Rutgers. BTW, as an NFL headcoach he was pathetic.
He has coached at the highest levels of his professional. His career is certainly not a failure.
 

Dpgru

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Are you sure about this?
What if Hobbs makes him an offer he can't refuse?

I do not believe he will take any job that requires a huge rebuild. After his NFL debacle and the mess that occurred at Tenn he can not afford a failure. He would, IMO, have taken the OSU job if it had been offered because the program is intact and there is a greater chance of success. Obviously if he failed there he would also be done but I don't think he wants this type of rebuild. Too risky. Also, it is hard to return to a previous place. More often than not it doesn't work.
 
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Knight Shift

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I do not believe he will take any job that requires a huge rebuild. After his NFL debacle and the mess that occurred at Tenn he can not afford a failure. He would, IMO, have taken the OSU job if it had been offered because the program is intact and there is a greater chance of success. Obviously if he failed there he would also be done but I don't think he wants this type of rebuild. Too risky. Also, it is hard to return to a previous place. More often than not it doesn't work.
Greg is 53. Should he do a 5 year deal, he will be nearing 60 at the end of his contract. A 5 year deal at a low end of $3 million/year grosses him $15 million. That's enough to retire on, I think.
 
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RU_DIO

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Did it all against a very watered down BIG East, never had to face Michigan, Ohio State, Penn St, and Michigan St every year

You think he would have recruited at the same level if he had the B1G to sell? I certainly don't. Greg is a very good recruiter. He would have done very well recruiting wise starting in 2006 if we were in the B1G. He would have had enough good players to compete with up to the top third in the league. Selling Rutgers in the watered down Big East was a much tougher task with the top players.
 
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Dpgru

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Greg is 53. Should he do a 5 year deal, he will be nearing 60 at the end of his contract. A 5 year deal at a low end of $3 million/year grosses him $15 million. That's enough to retire on, I think.

Anything is possible I guess but I just don't see him at this point wanting to take on this kind of a rebuild. When he was here every year he had a blowout loss or two to either WVU, or Miami, or Va tech and there was the WTF game that always popped up so there would be, with the schedule we have now, a lot of potential blowouts before he would even begin to see results. I just don't think he would even want to try it. Remember, he only gets an offer if we are again awful this year. Perhaps 1, 2, or 3 wins. If that is the case it means all the things the haters are saying about our lack of talent are probably true. This isn't the old Big East he would be aiming at it's the real BIG East. Too big a task to undertake. Too deep a hole to dig out of. Just my opinion.
 

Kbee3

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How many of his fair share of games against West Virginia did he win?

Heck, how did he do against Cincy once Dantonio had them rolling and Kelly took them up a level?
You guys need to remember that no one...NO ONE...had the level of success that Schiano had with this program.
I've got a number of friends who stopped laughing at Rutgers football after the Louisville win. They've been laughing again pretty much since GS left.
 

MADHAT1

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You guys need to remember that no one...NO ONE...had the level of success that Schiano had with this program.
I've got a number of friends who stopped laughing at Rutgers football after the Louisville win. They've been laughing again pretty much since GS left.
Success against major competition, true.
The 2006 season was the one that built up expectations of greatness for the future after Greg
made us start believing Rutgers was becoming a good program.
But as for no one having the type of sucess Schiano had: Frank Burns had Rutgers a highly competitive program when he was the HC , even if RU was more of a D-1AA type of program and never forget the undefeated 1976 season under his leadership.
Without proper support his last 3 seasons weren't the best when Rutgers upgraded to a D-1A type of schedule

John Bateman is another one that can't be slighted when it comes to being a successful RU FB HC.
He did have a few losing seasons playing the D-1AA schedule Rutgers had at the time, but his overall record was a winner and his Scarlet Knights went undefeated in 1961 after a 1 loss season in 1960.

I'll give Greg credit for making Rutgers respected in the major program department, after years of being considered a joke.
He deserves praise for doing that.
But Burns and Bateman deserve credit for their accomplishments at a lower level of play.
 

Kbee3

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Success against major competition, true.
The 2006 season was the one that built up expectations of greatness for the future after Greg
made us start believing Rutgers was becoming a good program.
But as for no one having the type of sucess Schiano had: Frank Burns had Rutgers a highly competitive program when he was the HC , even if RU was more of a D-1AA type of program and never forget the undefeated 1976 season under his leadership.
Without proper support his last 3 seasons weren't the best when Rutgers upgraded to a D-1A type of schedule

John Bateman is another one that can't be slighted when it comes to being a successful RU FB HC.
He did have a few losing seasons playing the D-1AA schedule Rutgers had at the time, but his overall record was a winner and his Scarlet Knights went undefeated in 1961 after a 1 loss season in 1960.

I'll give Greg credit for making Rutgers respected in the major program department, after years of being considered a joke.
He deserves praise for doing that.
But Burns and Bateman deserve credit for their accomplishments at a lower level of play.
"lower level" is the key part of what you're saying. Everyone appreciates what Bateman and Burns did for Rutgers football when its big rivals were Princeton and Colgate. I'm focusing on what Rutgers has done since its decision to compete at the highest level in college football. Handicapped by inferior finances, fan interest, facilities and history, Schiano made Rutgers a winning program and regular bowl participant. He sent more players to the NFL than anyone previously could even dream of.
Yeah...he could have done better. Beat Pedd St., West Virginia. And friggin Cincinnati.
And it's a long shot that he could ever compete with PSU, Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa.
But no one can. We have no chance to out-recruit them here in New Jersey....or anywhere else.
 
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If that's what you want to believe Of Course he would

Greg's 2006 team would beat today's team by 40+


2006 & 2007 teams would probably come in no lower than third in the Eastern division behind Ohio State and Michigan… Maybe higher with a home upset of either monster.

Rice would’ve been the story of the league despite Taylor.


Terl Britt & Brown would’ve destroyed a number of defenses




Mo
 
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superfan01

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2006 & 2007 teams would probably come in no lower than third in the Eastern division behind Ohio State and Michigan… Maybe higher with a home upset of either monster.

Rice would’ve been the story of the league despite Taylor.


Terl Britt & Brown would’ve destroyed a number of defenses




Mo

Wow. So our best team in 150 years would be good enough to finish 3rd in our division (not conference). Man, do we have one sad history.
 

Scarlet_Scourge

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Wow. So our best team in 150 years would be good enough to finish 3rd in our division (not conference). Man, do we have one sad history.

Our best team in the FBS era didn't even win the Big East conference that year.

It is what it is, but it doesn't have to stay that way.

Using in 150 years is extremely misleading. If you know anything about our history.
 

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2006 & 2007 teams would probably come in no lower than third in the Eastern division behind Ohio State and Michigan… Maybe higher with a home upset of either monster.

Rice would’ve been the story of the league despite Taylor.


Terl Britt & Brown would’ve destroyed a number of defenses




Mo

Wow. So our best team in 150 years would be good enough to finish 3rd in our division (not conference). Man, do we have one sad history.



Did we beat Cincy or WVA?


What were u watching 13 years ago...the Apprentice?

Mo