Meanwhile in Wisky.....

V-Doub

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I don’t think there is a standard a team has to meet for their fans to observe clear issues with other program.

Yup, you don’t have to have an IQ of 160 to recognize that someone else is dumbass.
 

oldjar07

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Their guy took a program that was pre-season top 25 his first year, and had been to a bowl game in 22 consecutive years is driving it into the ground. Our guy is taking Nebraska to its first bowl game in 9 years. Give me a guy turning around a program over the guy ruining one.
Way too early to say at this point. Rhule has gotten A TON of help from our NIL initiative. I'm certainly expecting him to take advantage of it.
 

Zeke2005

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How is this even possible?


It’s possible the person that does the entering of names into the portal is on vacation. Or maybe they are dragging their feet to punish him. If that’s the case what a terrible thing for the school to do.
 
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thall_

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Their guy took a program that was pre-season top 25 his first year, and had been to a bowl game in 22 consecutive years is driving it into the ground. Our guy is taking Nebraska to its first bowl game in 9 years. Give me a guy turning around a program over the guy ruining one.
if we played the #1 overall team and only lost by 3 you’d still be celebrating the moral victory.
 

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if we played the #1 overall team and only lost by 3 you’d still be celebrating the moral victory.
We played Ohio State to the wire on the road and I don't see him or others celebrating it. Ohio State is favored to beat that #1 team this week fwiw.
 

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Typically where there is smoke there is fire and these types of comments from former players and those outgoing is a lot of smoke.

Really? Give me one example when disgruntled players talked smack on their way out the door and sure enough, the program imploded shortly thereafter. Not saying it doesn't happen, I just can't think of it ever happening. I think it's much more typical that it amounts to nothing.
 

dinglefritz

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Really? Give me one example when disgruntled players talked smack on their way out the door and sure enough, the program imploded shortly thereafter. Not saying it doesn't happen, I just can't think of it ever happening. I think it's much more typical that it amounts to nothing.
Wisconsin is already imploding.
 

oldjar07

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We played Ohio State to the wire on the road and I don't see him or others celebrating it. Ohio State is favored to beat that #1 team this week fwiw.
There were plenty of people who celebrated the loss to Ohio State.
 

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Really? Give me one example when disgruntled players talked smack on their way out the door and sure enough, the program imploded shortly thereafter. Not saying it doesn't happen, I just can't think of it ever happening. I think it's much more typical that it amounts to nothing.
I think what is being communicated in this instance is the amount of smoke pouring out of Madison. It seems to be a larger amount than normal… maybe?
 

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I have a friend who's nephew plays for Wisconsin and he is now in the portal. Next time I see him I will try and get some inside scoop.
 

nudan92

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It sounds like Fickell and Wisconsin was blocking Lucas from the transfer portal because Lucas had previously signed some sort of agreement to return next season. Stupid move by Wisconsin.
 

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It sounds like Fickell and Wisconsin was blocking Lucas from the transfer portal because Lucas had previously signed some sort of agreement to return next season. Stupid move by Wisconsin.
Sounds like a stupid move by Lucas. Is this agreement binding?
 
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Sounds like a stupid move by Lucas. Is this agreement binding?
Sort of. No court will ever force someone to work (or in this case, play football for) an entity if the person doesn't want to. That would be involuntary servitude. What courts may theoretically do is preclude him from playing for anyone else, which again is unlikely. Most likely, if anything he would have to pay damages to Wisconsin, whatever those are determined to be (maybe the Vadgers can establish that they didn't recruit any running backs, to their detriment). But no court will force him to play football for Wisconsin if he doesn't want to.
 

WHCSC

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Sort of. No court will ever force someone to work (or in this case, play football for) an entity if the person doesn't want to. That would be involuntary servitude. What courts may theoretically do is preclude him from playing for anyone else, which again is unlikely. Most likely, if anything he would have to pay damages to Wisconsin, whatever those are determined to be (maybe the Vadgers can establish that they didn't recruit any running backs, to their detriment). But no court will force him to play football for Wisconsin if he doesn't want to.
Good. I hope he has to pay something somehow
 
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We were 6-6, which is better than last year’s 5-7. We were also 1-3 in November to close out 2024 after 0-4 last year in November so that too was improvement. But if that’s enough to be making fun of Wisky, then have at it. I want to see a bit more progress before I make fun of them or any other school.

You don’t get context, do you? Let’s start with the baseline and then add some context. They both took over their respective programs in 2023, now let’s look at the 8 years prior to their arrival.

Wisconsin > 72-29 (.713), 8 Bowl Games 7-1 (.875)

Nebraska > 36-55 (.396), 1 Bowl game 0-1 (.000)

Luke Fickell > 7-6, 5-7, Bowl Games 0-1

Matt Rhule > 5-7, 7-6, Bowl Games 1-0

There you go, now you have some context.
 
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You don’t get context, do you? Let’s start with the baseline and then add some context. They both took over their respective programs in 2023, now let’s look at the 8 years prior to their arrival.

Wisconsin > 72-29 (.713), 8 Bowl Games 7-1 (.875)

Nebraska > 36-55 (.396), 1 Bowl game 0-1 (.000)

Luke Fickell > 7-6, 5-7, Bowl Games 0-1

Matt Rhule > 5-7, 7-6, Bowl Games 1-0

There you go, now you have some context.
I make fun of Wisky for getting their azz kicked, this year, by that shitfy Matt Ruhle coached team that I will continue to watch and root for, and hope for additional progress next year. GBR and *** 2nd choice and Wisky.

Edit: wrong reply, whatever, sentiment still stands. GBR
 
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nudan92

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Sort of. No court will ever force someone to work (or in this case, play football for) an entity if the person doesn't want to. That would be involuntary servitude. What courts may theoretically do is preclude him from playing for anyone else, which again is unlikely. Most likely, if anything he would have to pay damages to Wisconsin, whatever those are determined to be (maybe the Vadgers can establish that they didn't recruit any running backs, to their detriment). But no court will force him to play football for Wisconsin if he doesn't want to.
He’s a cornerback, not a running back. He signed whatever they gave him to sign in late November or early December, he decided to leave while the portal was open. Wisconsin blocked him. There is no case for damages unless every school has a case to sue for damages when a guy enters the portal in December. The NCAA still prohibits schools from paying players so I’m not sure what contract Wisconsin is having their players sign.
 
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He’s a cornerback, not a running back. He signed whatever they gave him to sign in late November or early December, he decided to leave while the portal was open. Wisconsin blocked him. There is no case for damages unless every school has a case to sue for damages when a guy enters the portal in December. The NCAA still prohibits schools from paying players so I’m not sure what contract Wisconsin is having their players sign.
To be clear, I don't have any way of knowing what sort of contract he may have signed either and whether the school could prevail in court. Just saying that if the school had some kind of enforceable agreement and could prove it was damaged by his backing out (the only scenario I can come up with was the one above -- "we didn't recruit anybody at your position and now we're screwed") he could theoretically be liable for damages. Sorry if I gave the impression that I have any specific knowledge of this situation. I don't.
 

V-Doub

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There were plenty of people who celebrated the loss to Ohio State.

Like who? Names some names. If people were really celebrating the close loss to OSU their posts should be easy to find. My guess is your full of **** like usual…
 

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Like who? Names some names. If people were really celebrating the close loss to OSU their posts should be easy to find. My guess is your full of **** like usual…
There's a search feature, use it.
 

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Yep, that will really make Wisconsin an attractive place to play. Sue a guy that changed his mind about where he wanted to play football.
Maybe not but these kids have got to have some accountability in this.
 

V-Doub

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There's a search feature, use it.

I’m not the one making up false claims. I’m not the the one saying people were celebrating the OSU loss. YOU SAID THAT. SO YOU LOOK IT TF UP AND PROVE YOUR CLAIMS. I never saw anything like that, I never made such claims and I don’t believe they really exist. So why TF should I look it up? You made the BS claims. Now prove it.
 

oldjar07

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I’m not the one making up false claims. I’m not the the one saying people were celebrating the OSU loss. YOU SAID THAT. SO YOU LOOK IT TF UP AND PROVE YOUR CLAIMS. I never saw anything like that, I never made such claims and I don’t believe they really exist. So why TF should I look it up? You made the BS claims. Now prove it.
I made the claims because they are true and it's exactly what happened. I have way more important things to do than to placate message board warriors on every request. I don't make anything up. Everything I say is backed by evidence. If you're too lazy or too stupid to look up that evidence that's readily available, it is not my problem.
 

V-Doub

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I made the claims because they're true and it's exactly what happen

So it never happened.

Nope, you made **** up to back your own argument. You’re full of **** and a liar. And your response is proof you’re full of ****. And if you don’t want people to call you out for being a lying POS then prove them wrong. It’s not my responsibility to prove your false statements.
 

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I made the claims because they are true and it's exactly what happened. I have way more important things to do than to placate message board warriors on every request. I don't make anything up. Everything I say is backed by evidence. If you're too lazy or too stupid to look up that evidence that's readily available, it is not my problem.
There was a guy up here celebrating the tOSU loss. It was one of the resident Iowa trolls
 

oldjar07

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So it never happened.

Nope, you made **** up to back your own argument. You’re full of **** and a liar. And your response is proof you’re full of ****. And if you don’t want people to call you out for being a lying POS then prove them wrong. It’s not my responsibility to prove your false statements.
Eat a dick Hawkeye *****.
 

V-Doub

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There was a guy up here celebrating the tOSU loss. It was one of the resident Iowa trolls

He said Nebraska fans (plural) were celebrating the loss. If an iowa troll is his basis for that statement he’s dumber than I thought. And I didn’t think he was very smart before this.