Meanwhile, Hoiberg...

[TheBeav815]

Don't look now but Fred Hoiberg has a MARQUEE list of recruits coming to Lincoln for their big event. 5* players on top of his already-solid recruiting. But but but but but you have to win first! You need trophies to get recruits!

Well don't tell that to Fred.

The volleyball team is a recruiting juggernaut. Signed the #1 class in the nation and they're constantly elite in recruiting.

But please, somebody get on this board and spout some more BS about how elite high school kids would never come to Lincoln, Nebraska. The absolute failure of an NUFB recruiting class is another reason Frost is going to get himself fired.

He was handed every resource, the keys to the castle, and he has squandered it all while his DC breaks his back trying to hold this program up.

Maybe we can all become basketball fans.

 

[JOHNNY N]

Your setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Frost getting fired this year.

He might, but I doubt it.

 

[jonesy5960_rivals300379]

Your setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Frost getting fired this year.

He might, but I doubt it.

Why should he get fired when the team is competitive in all of the games that they lose?

 

[otismotis08]

Why should he get fired when the team is competitive in all of the games that they lose?

 

[JOHNNY N]

Why should he get fired when the team is competitive in all of the games that they lose?

I'm not making an argument for or against. I just don't think the TA is gonna fire him this year. I think TA is gonna try to make it work for Frost. JMO.

 

[beaglehusker]

Definitely need 1 or 2 elite recruiters

 

[bigboxes]

I'm not making an argument for or against. I just don't think the TA is gonna fire him this year. I think TA is gonna try to make it work for Frost. JMO.

Yeah. I've been thinking he'll stay on another year as well. He should be fired for his performance. As long as his team doesn't implode (like Callahan's final year), I see one more year. He's going to have to shake up the staff though.

 

[Anon1656421729]

I'm not making an argument for or against. I just don't think the TA is gonna fire him this year. I think TA is gonna try to make it work for Frost. JMO.

TA should and will require some staffing and organizational changes before the start of year 6.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Don't look now but Fred Hoiberg has a MARQUEE list of recruits coming to Lincoln for their big event. 5* players on top of his already-solid recruiting. But but but but but you have to win first! You need trophies to get recruits!

Well don't tell that to Fred.

The volleyball team is a recruiting juggernaut. Signed the #1 class in the nation and they're constantly elite in recruiting.

But please, somebody get on this board and spout some more BS about how elite high school kids would never come to Lincoln, Nebraska. The absolute failure of an NUFB recruiting class is another reason Frost is going to get himself fired.

He was handed every resource, the keys to the castle, and he has squandered it all while his DC breaks his back trying to hold this program up.

Maybe we can all become basketball fans.

It is a little different with basketball because there are soooo many recruits and you only need a few each year BUT I totally agree with you. I feel like Billy C was the only coach NU has had in the last 20 years that did not apologize for trying to recruit high level kids to NU. Recruiting is sales, you have to take that approach.

 

[JOHNNY N]

TA should and will require some staffing and organizational changes before the start of year 6.

Pretty sure that will be done before the start of season 5. I'm just guessing, but I'd be willing to bet the TA and Frost have already had the restructuring of the coaching staff conversation.

 

[TheBeav815]

The mentality of "we should fire him but we won't" is part of the problem with NU.

We convince ourselves that we couldn't do any better with anyone else so we let these dead in the water coaches cling on while nobody wants to come and sign with them.

Then the firing finally comes and it's "oh he needs more time he doesn't have any players." Ok well whose fault is that for letting it die the slow death?

 

[schuele]

As long as none o' them fancy-schmancy 5-stars takes a scholarship away from Eddie Floorburn, hero of the Class C-2 state tourney, Fred has my full support!

 

[Husker Sledge]

Frost really needed to show improvement in yrs 2-3. The UCF shine is gone and in yr 4 we continue to see poor player development and discipline issues on the offensive side. The constant negative press ain't helping either. Desperately need a strong run here on out in '21.

 

[oldjar07]

Your setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Frost getting fired this year.

He might, but I doubt it.

This is about the only thing you seem to say in every thread. Makes me wonder if you have some kind of agenda?

 

[WHCSC]

The list of visiters is...............less than diverse

 

[JOHNNY N]

This is about the only thing you seem to say in every thread. Makes me wonder if you have some kind of agenda?

I only said this in a few threads. What agenda would I have? I've not made an for or against firing Frost. I just don't think TA is gonna fire him, I think TA is gonna try to help Frost right the ship.

At this point I don't care if he is fired or retained as long as there is a plan for improvement.

What agenda do you have?

 

[SuperBigFan]

Here is the thing, the AD can't really "help"

It is an odd dynamic because the AD can fire the HC but even though he could fire assistant coaches, clearly no AD is doing that.

Frost either loves his staff and thinks they are the right guys or he is going to make changes.

Trev is either going to keep him or fire him.

But as far as help goes, there is not much the AD can do.

 

[RedBaloneyPony]

Here is the thing, the AD can't really "help"

It is an odd dynamic because the AD can fire the HC but even though he could fire assistant coaches, clearly no AD is doing that.

Frost either loves his staff and thinks they are the right guys or he is going to make changes.

Trev is either going to keep him or fire him.

But as far as help goes, there is not much the AD can do.

Any good athletic director is making calls about assistant coaches who can help this team, coaching is a business, you don't have to be friends with your staff, being professional and courteous will do. Also, given the situation, most any assistant looking to come aboard will want a minimum 3 year contract to assure if Frost is fired the following year they are getting paid if not re hired (Bo Pelini says hi) although Orgeron gave him the boot before he got it himself.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Any good athletic director is making calls about assistant coaches who can help this team, coaching is a business, you don't have to be friends with your staff, being professional and courteous will do. Also, given the situation, most any assistant looking to come aboard will want a minimum 3 year contract to assure if Frost is fired the following year they are getting paid if not re hired (Bo Pelini says hi) although Orgeron gave him the boot before he got it himself.

Is that true, AD's call around to employed assistant coaches to ask them if they want to come coach for the team he is AD of without talking to the HC's of both his team and the other team and then offers him a job on the staff without telling his HC?

I feel like that is about as unprofessional as it gets. Or am I totally not understanding what you are saying.

 

[mgbreeze]

As long as none o' them fancy-schmancy 5-stars takes a scholarship away from Eddie Floorburn, hero of the Class C-2 state tourney, Fred has my full support!

LOL, the "Eddie Floorburn" of C-2 the last few years has been Lucas Vogt, and if you want to see him play you'll have to take in a Wayne State game!

 

[redlurker]

There is no way Frost is fired this year unless he is catting around downtown Lincoln or he loses the team in the last 6 games. Now does he resign because of the AD demands....time will tell.

 

[VictoryRed]

Don't look now but Fred Hoiberg has a MARQUEE list of recruits coming to Lincoln for their big event. 5* players on top of his already-solid recruiting. But but but but but you have to win first! You need trophies to get recruits!

Well don't tell that to Fred.

The volleyball team is a recruiting juggernaut. Signed the #1 class in the nation and they're constantly elite in recruiting.

But please, somebody get on this board and spout some more BS about how elite high school kids would never come to Lincoln, Nebraska. The absolute failure of an NUFB recruiting class is another reason Frost is going to get himself fired.

He was handed every resource, the keys to the castle, and he has squandered it all while his DC breaks his back trying to hold this program up.

Maybe we can all become basketball fans.

 

[VictoryRed]

Maybe recruits have a wait and see approach, or maybe like many of us they have seen enough. We scream to fire Frost while we ***** about recruiting...hmmm.

 

[nwualum_rivals330058]

I clicked on this thread for an update on basketball recruits this weekend.
What was I thinking?

 

[RedBaloneyPony]

Is that true, AD's call around to employed assistant coaches to ask them if they want to come coach for the team he is AD of without talking to the HC's of both his team and the other team and then offers him a job on the staff without telling his HC?

I feel like that is about as unprofessional as it gets. Or am I totally not understanding what you are saying.

Not necessarily making direct calls to other coaches to see if they would be interested in coaching here, but getting in touch with former employers or colleagues of coaches to start looking for solutions . I dont belive Trev is going to let Frost decide on his own if hes keeping coaches or hiring new ones on his staff come next year, I believe that most AD's want to see a vision and have input when it comes to staffing. When programs are rolling and the head coach has earned the right to pick is own staff then that may be different but where Frost sits I think having second opinions on hiring and firing will be helpful.

 

[BHoppy]

So TA is going to tell SF to change his staff. What do you tell the new coaches? How many years does SF get then? You bring them in and they are going to expect more than one year.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Not necessarily making direct calls to other coaches to see if they would be interested in coaching here, but getting in touch with former employers or colleagues of coaches to start looking for solutions . I dont belive Trev is going to let Frost decide on his own if hes keeping coaches or hiring new ones on his staff come next year, I believe that most AD's want to see a vision and have input when it comes to staffing. When programs are rolling and the head coach has earned the right to pick is own staff then that may be different but where Frost sits I think having second opinions on hiring and firing will be helpful.

Yeah, I get that I just feel like at that point you just fire the staff and hire a new HC.

 

[Headcard]

The list of visiters is...............less than diverse

What do you mean?

Some are tall, some are short. Some are from the MidWest, some are from the East Coast. And one is even from Canada.

 

[bigboxes]

So TA is going to tell SF to change his staff. What do you tell the new coaches? How many years does SF get then? You bring them in and they are going to expect more than one year.

Position coaches get replaced all the time for one reason or another. Not just when the head coach gets sacked. What world do you live in?

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Don't look now but Fred Hoiberg has a MARQUEE list of recruits coming to Lincoln for their big event. 5* players on top of his already-solid recruiting. But but but but but you have to win first! You need trophies to get recruits!

Well don't tell that to Fred.

The volleyball team is a recruiting juggernaut. Signed the #1 class in the nation and they're constantly elite in recruiting.

But please, somebody get on this board and spout some more BS about how elite high school kids would never come to Lincoln, Nebraska. The absolute failure of an NUFB recruiting class is another reason Frost is going to get himself fired.

He was handed every resource, the keys to the castle, and he has squandered it all while his DC breaks his back trying to hold this program up.

Maybe we can all become basketball fans.

But, but, but…Hoiberg didn’t inherit the disaster that Frost did (as the sunshine pumpers “used” to say).

I really believe Nebraska basketball is going to transform quickly with Hoiberg. Dude knows how to get it done.

 

[Husker88]

As Husker fans, I think we want all Husker athletics to do well; not just football.

Fred has recruited well the last 18 months, and there is some fire around the program.

After a 14-45 start and a 5-35 conference record thru his first 2 seasons at the Husker helm, a serious influx of talent is welcoming. Great thing about basketball is you only need about 1 or 2 truly great players to change the entire trajectory of a program. And those 1 or 2 (or more) can do that the moment they step on campus as true Freshman.

 

[artguy68]

Outside of volleyball, I wonder if Nebraska has ever had two 5* recruits visit in one weekend in any sport?

Also, how great would it be to have a player named 'Omaha' helping us hang losses on Creighton?

 

[73 Red I]

Definitely need 1 or 2 elite recruiters

Busch is a consultant. Put him to work as QB coach. He couldn't F that up any worse than it already is and you would get some recruits with Busch

 

[Boiler_B]

Pretty sure that will be done before the start of season 5. I'm just guessing, but I'd be willing to bet the TA and Frost have already had the restructuring of the coaching staff conversation.

If u as an AD are even having this convo with ur HC about restructuring assistants, U likely have the wrong HC in the first place, and he is already a short timer.
That is just the reality.

Good head coaches do not need their ADS holding their hands when it comes to coaching moves, or needing to make them...

These moves should have been made prior to the AD even needing to get involved..as it's part of a coaches responsibility...SF didn't do it, and he should have already.

Only way I see TA keeping SF after this season (if SF brings in another losing season) is if he whiffs on his top replacements he has in mind, and even then, it wouldn't be without wholesale changes on his staff and a very short leash.

 

[EastOregonHusker]

Definitely need 1 or 2 elite recruiters

This. It’s a sales job. Good coaches aren’t always good recruiters. You need to find spots for elite recruiters on your staff.

 

[BHoppy]

Position coaches get replaced all the time for one reason or another. Not just when the head coach gets sacked. What world do you live in?

In the present, not the past.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

So TA is going to tell SF to change his staff. What do you tell the new coaches? How many years does SF get then? You bring them in and they are going to expect more than one year.

If u as an AD are even having this convo with ur HC about restructuring assistants, U likely have the wrong HC in the first place, and he is already a short timer.
That is just the reality.

Good head coaches do not need their ADS holding their hands when it comes to coaching moves, or needing to make them...

These moves should have been made prior to the AD even needing to get involved..as it's part of a coaches responsibility...SF didn't do it, and he should have already.

Only way I see TA keeping SF after this season (if SF brings in another losing season) is if he whiffs on his top replacements he has in mind, and even then, it wouldn't be without wholesale changes on his staff and a very short leash.

Unfortunately for SF but he has gone from a position of power with Moos to a potential a position of weakness with TA.

Best case scenario is TA lights a fire under SF's *** and gets him the help in the near future that he really needs, and ideally everyone could win.

I've never asked for an NU team to be unbeaten or Top 5 or anything, I just want NU to play good, hard nosed football, be hard to beat, and not beat themselves. The exact opposite of what we've seen for way too long.

 

[HuskerHackFraud]

This weekend there will be over 50 recruits at the game. The majority being 2023/2024 recruits.

 

[Trumplestiltskin]

Visiting and signing are not the same. Post this after they sign maybe.

 

[Dean Pope]

As long as none o' them fancy-schmancy 5-stars takes a scholarship away from Eddie Floorburn, hero of the Class C-2 state tourney, Fred has my full support!

You don't have to worry about that. Fred already struck out with the in-state 4 and 5 stars.