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[NotInRHouse]

I guess you glanced over where Cuban says he did not give any money to Indiana NIL. He has been adamant where he has said he would not buy players or donate directly to NIL.

That was in 2022. This was the initial investment. As we have seen, things have taken off, and sensibly, neither the investors or the players are going out there and explaining every bag.

Is your theory really that IU has the players they do strictly based on coaching, and that they are making the same NIL investments as mid and lower tier B10 programs?

 

[kupuna133]

That was in 2022. This was the initial investment. As we have seen, things have taken off, and sensibly, neither the investors or the players are going out there and explaining every bag.

Is your theory really that IU has the players they do strictly based on coaching, and that they are making the same NIL investments as mid and lower tier B10 programs?

No never said any of that. Stay on topic. This is about Mark Cuban. You have said multiple times in this thread and others that Indiana has billionaire Mark Cuban writing checks for players. Mark Cuban has stated he would “never” write checks for players. I take the man at his word. So the article is from 2022. Cuban gas been quoted recently saying the same. Do a simple AI search to see if he’s given money and you will see

 

[rutgersguy2]

I am not saying it is new. I am saying his financial involvement is helping push the program. This board is the first place I've seen any argument that he isn't involved.

I was saying you can’t assume Cuban or any billionaire is donating to NIL just because they're rich and they’ve made donations in the past. It’s an unknown. People just throw around this lower status team or that lower status team is bought without any proof when they start to do well.

@kupuna133 has actually given the quote that Cuban wasn’t donating.

Quick lookup and found the article and here’s a more full quote.

Cuban's quote:

You hear the stories,” he said. “I’ve talked to ADs and I’ve talked to [college] coaches, where it’s not tax deductible if I give money to [his alma mater] Indiana, which I haven’t. I don’t want to be in a position with the NBA. But if somebody wants to come in and be the big swinging [uh, something] and give $5 million dollars to a basketball or football program … let’s say you gave X amount of money to a football program for this great quarterback that they told you was the best quarterback ever, and the guy doesn’t play. That [money] guy is screaming at the coach, ‘I just gave you MFs $3 million dollars this year.

“What do I get? I get some guy who’s gotten one snap in the spring football game, and he’s telling people to come eat my tacos? For $3 million dollars, I could have given everybody a taco.’ Right?

 

[WillieTheSilent]

No never said any of that. Stay on topic. This is about Mark Cuban. You have said multiple times in this thread and others that Indiana has billionaire Mark Cuban writing checks for players. Mark Cuban has stated he would “never” write checks for players. I take the man at his word. So the article is from 2022. Cuban gas been quoted recently saying the same. Do a simple AI search to see if he’s given money and you will see

Money is fungible. If his companies benefit NIL he can still say he doesn't write checks. Heck.. he can write a check for a library and the university can talk other donors into moving their library donations to NIL.

The NIL money comes from somehwere..

Grok AI says:

Indiana University NIL Spending (2025-26):

• Men's Basketball: $10 million (includes NIL deals and revenue sharing).
• Football: Estimated $15.4 million (based on 75% allocation of $20.5 million total revenue sharing cap, primarily to football and basketball).

Sources: CBS Sports report confirms basketball figure; revenue sharing allocation from NCAA estimates and industry standards.

And Rutgers?

Rutgers University NIL Spending (2025-26):

• Men's Basketball: $3.9 million (est. 24% of $16.2M collective total).
• Football: $10.7 million (est. 66% of $16.2M collective total).

Sources: NIL estimates from 2023-24 data (adjusted for 2025 trends); revenue sharing cap $20.5M primarily to football/basketball.

 

[rutgersguy2]

That was in 2022. This was the initial investment. As we have seen, things have taken off, and sensibly, neither the investors or the players are going out there and explaining every bag.

Is your theory really that IU has the players they do strictly based on coaching, and that they are making the same NIL investments as mid and lower tier B10 programs?

The article I found was from summer of 2024 but his attitude is his attitude, regardless of when it was from. The quote above was pulled from this article.

And while @kupuna133 might not say it, I do think by and large prior to this year most lower status teams who have reached up and done well aren't swimming in pools of NIL so much greater than anyone else. 20M for IU you mentioned, no way.

TT "being bought" this year during the transitional period and front loading deals, I agree with that but other schools prior to this year like IU or Illinois or ISU etc...I don't believe it.

Mavericks' Mark Cuban: Big College Money Boosting NBA

Mavericks owner Mark Cuban tells Heavy Sports that the changing landscape of college sports can benefit the NBA.

heavy.com

 

[kupuna133]

Money is fungible. If his companies benefit NIL he can still say he doesn't write checks.

What? Did you see how much money “his company” has raised in total? Much less what went to IU.
Money raised to all “57” partnered schools. Not athletes and not IU. And if it all went to IU that’s not buying more than 3 o linemen.

• $1 million paid to athletes: In January 2024, Campus Ink announced that it had paid over $1 million in total revenue shares to its network of student-athletes across all 57 of its partnered schools.
  

 

[rutgersguy2]

Money is fungible. If his companies benefit NIL he can still say he doesn't write checks. Heck.. he can write a check for a library and the university can talk other donors into moving their library donations to NIL.

The NIL money comes from somehwere..

Grok AI says:

Indiana University NIL Spending (2025-26):

• Men's Basketball: $10 million (includes NIL deals and revenue sharing).
• Football: Estimated $15.4 million (based on 75% allocation of $20.5 million total revenue sharing cap, primarily to football and basketball).

Sources: CBS Sports report confirms basketball figure; revenue sharing allocation from NCAA estimates and industry standards.

And Rutgers?

Rutgers University NIL Spending (2025-26):

• Men's Basketball: $3.9 million (est. 24% of $16.2M collective total).
• Football: $10.7 million (est. 66% of $16.2M collective total).

Sources: NIL estimates from 2023-24 data (adjusted for 2025 trends); revenue sharing cap $20.5M primarily to football/basketball.

I don't know if those numbers are correct but do you think we had 10M last year or IU 15M last year for football. I don't think so.

It's not a coincidence that these numbers are higher now with this being the first year of revenue sharing. I've been saying this for a few years before people even understood what revenue sharing was or that it was coming down the pipe. Recently, I've seen a bunch of articles of schools, specifically lower status ones, upping their NIL money and shocker it's pretty much on the back of this first year of revenue sharing. If you can find the money in your AD budget, you can spend up to the caps. It should be easier to do that if you're a school in the B10 or SEC.

It's not a coincidence that recently VT upped their AD budget 50M/yr for the next 4 years. I'm sure a chunk of that is going to NIL spending.

Also did you see the link I posted where our football operating budget last year was 64M. That's the 6th highest in the B10 and 12th highest in the country. IU was 13 at 61M. Surprisingly, Washington was the highest in the B10.

Just about everyone is increasing their NIL this year because of revenue sharing but prior to this year, most lower status schools were nothing special compared to most of their peers or numbers were potentially misleading or flat out false.

 

[WillieTheSilent]

I don't know if those numbers are correct but do you think we had 10M last year or IU 15M last year for football. I don't think so.

It's not a coincidence that these numbers are higher now with this being the first year of revenue sharing. I've been saying this for a few years before people even understood what revenue sharing was or that it was coming down the pipe. I've seen a bunch of articles of schools, specifically lower status ones, upping their NIL money and shocker it's pretty much on the back of this first year of revenue sharing. If you can find the money in your AD budget, you can spend up to the caps. It should be easier to do that if you're a school in the B10 or SEC.

It's not a coincidence that recently VT upped their AD budget 50M/yr for the next 4 years. I'm sure a chunk of that is going to NIL spending.

Also did you see the link I posted where our football operating budget last year was 64M. That's the 6th highest in the B10 and 12th highest in the country. IU was 13 at 61M. Surprisingly, Washington was the highest in the B10.

Just about everyone is increasing their NIL this year because of revenue sharing but prior to this year, most lower status schools were nothing special compared to most of their peers or numbers were potentially misleading or flat out false.

When comparing budgets, consider that New Jersey might be the highest cost of living in the Big Ten. For example, sites estimate a 23% difference between New Jersey and Indiana. So a coach offered a job by both schools should ask for 23% more from Rutgers just to, financially, have equal offers. Therefore the IU AD budget could be 23% less than Rutgers to attract the same talent... and that assumes everything else being equal, which ist is not. I would assume a general anti-New Jersey bias exists that would require MORE money to overcome.


In this random search result, I see NJ is literally the lowest-ranked Big Ten state.. but Indiana is not far from us. I do not think NJ deserves that.. but that is where they are.. perceptually.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Since this thread has morphed a little into NIL stuff. I'll post these here. Feldman article on UNC's struggles is paywall but for the comments in the tweets.






And as I said somewhere there will always be some that finagle around the rules. I think there are 4 full time auditors and not sure how many consultants on top of that, if any.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Since this thread has morphed a little into NIL stuff. I'll post these here. Feldman article on UNC's struggles is paywall but for the comments in the tweets.






And as I said somewhere there will always be some that finagle around the rules. I think there are 4 full time auditors and not sure how many consultants on top of that, if any.

Isn't paying players before the deals are approved supposed to be against the rules now? This isn't any better than than the NCAA. You can bet that the enforcement will be selective or non existent. Just like it was before. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Isn't paying players before the deals are approved supposed to be against the rules now? This isn't any better than than the NCAA. You can bet that the enforcement will be selective or non existent. Just like it was before. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

It is against the rules but they’resaying it’s taking too long to get approved or rejected, that’s why I brought up the staffing levels for the auditors.

Here are some other things just adopted.

 

[NotInRHouse]

No never said any of that. Stay on topic. This is about Mark Cuban. You have said multiple times in this thread and others that Indiana has billionaire Mark Cuban writing checks for players. Mark Cuban has stated he would “never” write checks for players. I take the man at his word. So the article is from 2022. Cuban gas been quoted recently saying the same. Do a simple AI search to see if he’s given money and you will see

The way NIL works, it's not necessarily that he or anyone else is writing a check to a player. They are writing checks to funds that in turn set up deals. That is why they have collectives. We have one too. And they are not required to say who is donating what and when, and that is also true in terms of what is going out to players.

Why would ANYONE, Cuban or whoever, put their name out there like that, like we're going to find an article that Cuban or John Doe says, "Yeah, I wrote this QB a check and this WR another." I mean the reasons should be obvious but I happy to elaborate if needed.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I was saying you can’t assume Cuban or any billionaire is donating to NIL just because they're rich and they’ve made donations in the past. It’s an unknown. People just throw around this lower status team or that lower status team is bought without any proof when they start to do well.

@kupuna133 has actually given the quote that Cuban wasn’t donating.

Quick lookup and found the article and here’s a more full quote.

Cuban's quote:

You hear the stories,” he said. “I’ve talked to ADs and I’ve talked to [college] coaches, where it’s not tax deductible if I give money to [his alma mater] Indiana, which I haven’t. I don’t want to be in a position with the NBA. But if somebody wants to come in and be the big swinging [uh, something] and give $5 million dollars to a basketball or football program … let’s say you gave X amount of money to a football program for this great quarterback that they told you was the best quarterback ever, and the guy doesn’t play. That [money] guy is screaming at the coach, ‘I just gave you MFs $3 million dollars this year.

“What do I get? I get some guy who’s gotten one snap in the spring football game, and he’s telling people to come eat my tacos? For $3 million dollars, I could have given everybody a taco.’ Right?

Uh...giving money to Indiana directly? No one is alleging this. This is not what NIL is. This is in fact why Hobbs was explicitly saying, under heavy fan criticism, he wasn't involved.

The money goes to a fund that isn't run by the school. The school governance isn't involved because it would open public schools like RU or IU to disclosure laws, FOIA requests and all these kinds of things.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Uh...giving money to Indiana directly? No one is alleging this. This is not what NIL is. This is in fact why Hobbs was explicitly saying, under heavy fan criticism, he wasn't involved.

The money goes to a fund that isn't run by the school. The school governance isn't involved because it would open public schools like RU or IU to disclosure laws, FOIA requests and all these kinds of things.

Did you even read the quote. He’s basically talking about giving players money through any mechanism like a collective. He’s like I’m not giving money for a player who might not even pan out and what do I get in return.

He invested in a company that helps players market themselves to get NIL opportunities. That’s it. And that company itself hasn’t distributed a lot of money since its inception and that’s to all athletes not just IU.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Did you even read the quote. He’s basically talking about giving players money through any mechanism like a collective. He’s like I’m not giving money for a player who might not even pan out and what do I get in return.

He invested in a company that helps players market themselves to get NIL opportunities. That’s it. And that company itself hasn’t distributed a lot of money since its inception and that’s to all athletes not just IU.

The quote said "alma mater" Indiana. That is the institution. Then he says program. That is precisely what I am saying. No one will know, unless the collective or the donor or player says it, and who would be so incentivized? He is not saying what is actually happening.

That is what I think is being missed here. Look at our own basketball program. I don't think there is one person on this board that ever questioned NIL played a role in getting the class we had. But when it comes time to observe what's going on at other schools in football, no one wants to believe what reality is despite it staring us in the face. Couldn't be NIL- IU is just smarter and better coached! They just lapped us and 15 other schools on brilliant coaching and recruiting.

There is no reason why RU couldn't do what Indiana is doing- which is get a lot of NIL money. People don't like it because it moves the discussion somewhat from ragging on coaches to wondering when our fanbase is going to pony up. It makes people look in the mirror rather than at the coach. But it's reality.

And BTW you look at a school like UCLA- probably on average alum income would be top 10 if not top 5 in the P4. So there is more to it than just wealth. There needs to be engagement. There needs to be involvement. And there needs to be understanding- which there wasn't in MBB- that it isn't overnight and isn't a guarantee. Do our fans have that patience and will? I guess we're going to find out. Unfortunately though from what I see here I am hoping there is movement off the board because I see 10x the griping versus solutions.

 

[kupuna133]

The way NIL works, it's not necessarily that he or anyone else is writing a check to a player. They are writing checks to funds that in turn set up deals. That is why they have collectives. We have one too. And they are not required to say who is donating what and when, and that is also true in terms of what is going out to players.

Why would ANYONE, Cuban or whoever, put their name out there like that, like we're going to find an article that Cuban or John Doe says, "Yeah, I wrote this QB a check and this WR another." I mean the reasons should be obvious but I happy to elaborate if needed.

I know how NIL works. Cuban has said he would not be involved with NIL directly with “his money”. Why would anyone say they bought a player? Are you serious? People that are writing big checks for anything want their name on it. Be it a library a “locker room” an “academic success center” a “lacrosse stadium.” They want to be attached to something and take credit for it. Big difference between the 5k guy and the 5M guy. But there’s a big difference between not taking credit for it than outright saying you would not be a part of it.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I know how NIL works. Cuban has said he would not be involved with NIL. Why would anyone say they bought a player? Are you serious? People that are writing big checks for anything want their name on it. Be it a library a “locker room” an “academic success center” a “lacrosse stadium.” They want to be attached to something and take credit for it. Big difference between the 5k guy and the 5M guy. But there’s a big difference between not taking credit for it than outright saying you would not be a part of it.

Why....well I'm not aware of many undefeated college football players, for one. And in the insane world we live in, if you're associated behind the losing player, you could be subject to the same harassment they were. A little different than a locker room, isn't it? I mean, when I was in school I remember Teel's car was vandalized. That was a saner time and the internet was younger. Now you're going to have someone being out there as a patron of a person versus a program. That is a giant difference.

Maybe you say that after the fact once they graduated. Given how new the programs are we're not there yet. After the fact? Sure. "I gave Mr. X a bag, he stayed 4 years, we won a championship." Sure. But after.

 

[kupuna133]

Why....well I'm not aware of many undefeated college football players, for one. And in the insane world we live in, if you're associated behind the losing player, you could be subject to the same harassment they were. A little different than a locker room, isn't it? I mean, when I was in school I remember Teel's car was vandalized. That was a saner time and the internet was younger. Now you're going to have someone being out there as a patron of a person versus a program. That is a giant difference.

Maybe you say that after the fact once they graduated. Given how new the programs are we're not there yet. After the fact? Sure. "I gave Mr. X a bag, he stayed 4 years, we won a championship." Sure. But after.

What does any of what you say mean. We are not talking about players car being vandalized. We are not talking about players at all actually.
We are talking about measuring the proverbial d. That is what NIL is for the mega donors. Which Cuban is on record of not being. Giving x gets you a status regardless if the team is undefeated.

 

[koleszar]

Being a Rutgers fan is like being a Jets fan....all hope in the world literally crumbles in first couple weeks of the season

Just
End
The
Season

Hey, don't leave out us Giants fans in this misery index, we're right there with you. I wait 9 months for this and by week 5 I've checked out on both teams.

 

[mdk02]

No only that.. we cannot afford to make a mistake on a big name at big salary. It would destroy us. Is Belicheck just going for one final payday? I have no idea. I thought he might be trying to set up his son to step in for him at UNC after some success.. but you just never know with these hires.

Look at UNC today and for the season.

 

[koleszar]

Look at UNC today and for the season.

I will say, I would take his son as DC in a nanosecond over our dynamic duo of dipsh*ts.

 

[NotInRHouse]

What does any of what you say mean. We are not talking about players car being vandalized. We are not talking about players at all actually.
We are talking about measuring the proverbial d. That is what NIL is for the mega donors. Which Cuban is on record of not being. Giving x gets you a status regardless if the team is undefeated.

Why would a big donor announce a sponsorship of a player and then the player blows it in big game. Cuban says OK I gave a few million to buy QB. QB throws a pick against a hated rival like Purdue and blows the season. People then order pizzas non stop to his house. This crap happens every day. No one is going to be public for that reason until AFTER the fact. Why do you think we don't know who gave us the NIL bag in MBB? Had we gone to the tournament and won even one game there they probably would have came forward.

 

[kupuna133]

Why would a big donor announce a sponsorship of a player and then the player blows it in big game. Cuban says OK I gave a few million to buy QB. QB throws a pick against a hated rival like Purdue and blows the season. People then order pizzas non stop to his house. This crap happens every day. No one is going to be public for that reason until AFTER the fact. Why do you think we don't know who gave us the NIL bag in MBB? Had we gone to the tournament and won even one game there they probably would have came forward.

Man that is some bizarre logic. How about this a man takes credit for bringing a perennial loser to respectability. Which happened the last 2 years. Or better yet take a man at his word. Cuban has publicly stated I will not fund NIL. You show me where he said I will fund NIL and this is a moot point.
You really don’t know who Gave the bag for the basketball team? Really? It’s not hard to figure out it’s not exactly a secret. If you had gone to any NIL meetings you would know.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Man that is some bizarre logic. How about this a man takes credit for bringing a perennial loser to respectability. Which happened the last 2 years. Or better yet take a man at his word. Cuban has publicly stated I will not fund NIL. You show me where he said I will fund NIL and this is a moot point.
You really don’t know who Gave the bag for the basketball team? Really? It’s not hard to figure out it’s not exactly a secret. If you had gone to any NIL meetings you would know.

Yes because it's Indiana and it's early. People turn quick. People turned on GS and Teel in 07. Granted it's NJ versus IN.

Yes it was at a meeting. It was not on social media. It was not in a newspaper. Why is the expectation that Indiana's would be public and ours would not be?

 

[kupuna133]

Yes because it's Indiana and it's early. People turn quick. People turned on GS and Teel in 07. Granted it's NJ versus IN.

Yes it was at a meeting. It was not on social media. It was not in a newspaper. Why is the expectation that Indiana's would be public and ours would not be?

So your logic is “Mark Cuban” a braggart in every other part of his life (business, politics, NBA franchise owner, investor, alumnus, tv personality) chooses NIL as the place where he draws the line of making an outward appearance. Because you know, people order pizzas to people houses. The guy was one of the most polarizing owners in NBA history. And was making waves well before he was successful in Dallas.

 

[NotInRHouse]

So your logic is “Mark Cuban” a braggart in every other part of his life (business, politics, NBA franchise owner, investor, alumnus, tv personality) chooses NIL as the place where he draws the line of making an outward appearance. Because you know, people order pizzas to people houses. The guy was one of the most polarizing owners in NBA history. And was making waves well before he was successful in Dallas.

Yes because no one tries to burn a house down for making a crap investment on Shark Tank.

If NIL is worth bragging over- and RU is keeping a pace- why aren't our donors going to NJ.Com and other outlets? Why is bball discussed only at a meeting? Honestly I would commend whoever is keeping AK around as the offense is much improved.

 

[kupuna133]

Yes because no one tries to burn a house down for making a crap investment on Shark Tank.

If NIL is worth bragging over- and RU is keeping a pace- why aren't our donors going to NJ.Com and other outlets? Why is bball discussed only at a meeting? Honestly I would commend whoever is keeping AK around as the offense is much improved.

Again bizarre logic. So you think an Indiana football fan is more unstable than a Dallas Mavericks fan? Indiana football literally had the one of most successful season in their recent if not total history and a big donor would remain silent? Because Mark Cuban would be afraid of, now you escalate from pizza deliveries to Felony arson. That is next level mental gymnastics.
Youre switching your argument again. I am not saying someone isn’t paying athletes at IU. It’s not the person you have claimed.
And whoever is keeping AK around? He has come out and said he’s not chasing the bag and he would not have garnered more than what he has earned at RU. AK has value at RU but I doubt the open market would increase his value prior to this seasons results.
Bball was not only discussed at a meeting. It’s where I found out. You just didn’t pay attention.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Again bizarre logic. So you think an Indiana football fan is more unstable than a Dallas Mavericks fan? Indiana football literally had the one of most successful season in their recent if not total history and a big donor would remain silent? Because Mark Cuban would be afraid of, now you escalate from pizza deliveries to Felony arson. That is next level mental gymnastics.
Youre switching your argument again. I am not saying someone isn’t paying athletes at IU. It’s not the person you have claimed.
And whoever is keeping AK around? He has come out and said he’s not chasing the bag and he would not have garnered more than what he has earned at RU. AK has value at RU but I doubt the open market would increase his value prior to this seasons results.
Bball was not only discussed at a meeting. It’s where I found out. You just didn’t pay attention.

OK...so why is the bball donor in the media talking about his or her exploits since he or she, based on your claim, has less to worry about than Mark Cuban?

 

[kupuna133]

OK...so why is the bball donor in the media talking about his or her exploits since he or she, based on your claim, has less to worry about than Mark Cuban?

Ummm because it wasn’t a person. But why would Cuban deny it publicly if he did finance it as you say?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Ummm because it wasn’t a person. But why would Cuban deny it publicly if he did finance it as you say?

Persons, sorry. Why wouldn't they be public?

So I understand this- Cuban makes sense for him for to be truthful, but for our donors, makes sense for them to obscure themselves? Why?

 

[kupuna133]

Persons, sorry. Why wouldn't they be public?

So I understand this- Cuban makes sense for him for to be truthful, but for our donors, makes sense for them to obscure themselves? Why?

Who says they’re obscuring themselves? Not persons either. Most of the funding for the big 2 did not come from within RU. You should know this.

 

[WillieTheSilent]

Again bizarre logic. So you think an Indiana football fan is more unstable than a Dallas Mavericks fan? Indiana football literally had the one of most successful season in their recent if not total history and a big donor would remain silent? Because Mark Cuban would be afraid of, now you escalate from pizza deliveries to Felony arson. That is next level mental gymnastics.
Youre switching your argument again. I am not saying someone isn’t paying athletes at IU. It’s not the person you have claimed.
And whoever is keeping AK around? He has come out and said he’s not chasing the bag and he would not have garnered more than what he has earned at RU. AK has value at RU but I doubt the open market would increase his value prior to this seasons results.
Bball was not only discussed at a meeting. It’s where I found out. You just didn’t pay attention.

Donors stay silent to avoid a rush or "how about my good cause" folk hounding them.

 

[kupuna133]

Donors stay silent to avoid a rush or "how about my good cause" folk hounding them.

Sure makes sense. But has nothing to do with what is being discussed. Mark Cuban has openly said he is not involved. Another poster is saying he is the reason Indiana was successful last year. And the reason Cuban hasn’t come forward is because he is afraid to get pizza delivered to his house from disgruntled Hoosier fans. Crazy right?

 

[WillieTheSilent]

Sure makes sense. But has nothing to do with what is being discussed. Mark Cuban has openly said he is not involved. Another poster is saying he is the reason Indiana was successful last year. And the reason Cuban hasn’t come forward is because he is afraid to get pizza delivered to his house from disgruntled Hoosier fans. Crazy right?

why do you care? Indiana clearly has NIL money. Cuban supports and benefits Indiana in various way. Money is fungible. If Cuban's entities invest in Indiana then Indiana has monies from others that they could target toward athletics.

 

[kupuna133]

why do you care? Indiana clearly has NIL money. Cuban supports and benefits Indiana in various way. Money is fungible. If Cuban's entities invest in Indiana then Indiana has monies from others that they could target toward athletics.

Don’t care. But I like to deal in facts. You seem to care because you have now responded to me multiple times with this fungible reference. Not sure you have ever done a money raise for foundation/charity/education/university/business. But money earmarked for one thing cannot be used for something else that is fraudulent . Especially when there are taxes involved.

 

[JL23]

Why would a big donor announce a sponsorship of a player and then the player blows it in big game. Cuban says OK I gave a few million to buy QB. QB throws a pick against a hated rival like Purdue and blows the season. People then order pizzas non stop to his house. This crap happens every day. No one is going to be public for that reason until AFTER the fact. Why do you think we don't know who gave us the NIL bag in MBB? Had we gone to the tournament and won even one game there they probably would have came forward.

Portnoy has gone on record as saying he'll get Michigan a top qb every year
He was instrumental in getting BY to UM and orchestrated the deal between the NIL guys and him, and I believe gave a few mil as well

 

[NotInRHouse]

Who says they’re obscuring themselves? Not persons either. Most of the funding for the big 2 did not come from within RU. You should know this.

That's my point but you're not answering my question.

You're saying you only learned at a meeting who donated to us but simultaneously are insisting that Cuban would want to broadcast himself as the major donor. That does not make sense. Why would one want privacy and the other not?

 

[NotInRHouse]

Portnoy has gone on record as saying he'll get Michigan a top qb every year
He was instrumental in getting BY to UM and orchestrated the deal between the NIL guys and him, and I believe gave a few mil as well

I mean he is already in a situation where so many people both know who he is and hate him, lol. Probably gets those pizzas anyway. I don't think that is the case for Cuban and probably not for who would be donating to us. Only potential similar case for us would be Hasan Piker and not sure if he donates.

 

[WillieTheSilent]

Don’t care. But I like to deal in facts. You seem to care because you have now responded to me multiple times with this fungible reference. Not sure you have ever done a money raise for foundation/charity/education/university/business. But money earmarked for one thing cannot be used for something else that is fraudulent . Especially when there are taxes involved.

It is all speculative. Maybe Indiana fundraising employees targeted athletics donors more than academics because they had Cuban money coming in for academics. No one knows... but Indiana has a lot of NIL compared to many, including Rutgers. It comes from somewhere. It does not have to be a case of illegally taking donations targeted for academics and applying them to athletics.

 

[kupuna133]

That's my point but you're not answering my question.

You're saying you only learned at a meeting who donated to us but simultaneously are insisting that Cuban would want to broadcast himself as the major donor. That does not make sense. Why would one want privacy and the other not?

Answer my question. Find me proof where Cuban is financing Indiana football.
The meeting is where I found out where most of the money for the big 2 came from. But it’s widely circulated that the money as “Willie” likes to say is fungible. It really didn’t matter where Dylan or Ace played their primary source of funding was coming from the outside. They had “major” sponsors. Think it’s right there for you.