Md does it again
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Agree with you guys on this. I see a lot of similarities between Franklin/PSU and how Clemson progressed under Dabo. The key differentiator at this point would be financial support and facilities. PSU still has some catching-up to do with that upper tier.
There will be 4 star misses until the end of time. Doesn’t change the fact that they hit at a better rate than 3* recruits and have produced some of the best RU players ever. Anthony Davis, Britt, Logan Ryan, vallone, Coleman, carroo. Can even add savage, Hamilton, forst and abreu as effective players.
Hey not saying I wouldn't want a bunch of them.
Checkout the link in my more recent post...result of RU top 15.
Again, as I stated earlier MD did not have any talent outside of the few 4 stars.
It was basically few 4 stars loyalist/recruits and a bunch of non D1 guys who would run over by the elites under Edsall.
Durkin started to get more depth but McNair happened. He is responsible for getting more 3 stars and beating Texas twice and pretty much OSU.
Football is a such tough sport to overhaul. You need talent all over the place and not just few 4 stars.
Nick Cross is a great talent and seems very happy with Mike. Unlike the media saying, he does not seem very trapped or forced to me.
Mike is a great recruiter but he will need a developing staff.
James had Moorhead (I think he will miss Moorehead ALOT). But again staff shuffles are the norm now.
MD IMO will accumulate alot of good talent in 2020 and 2021.
Why do people try to shame recruiter Head Coaches? It is beyond me.
And why has not Delany realigned this brutal East yet? Has he not learned from past few years?
Everyone from OSU/ Michigan to PSU and Rutgers would benefit in terms of playoffs, bowls, recruiting and W/Ls.
INSANITY! WAKE UP DELANY!
Everyone from OSU/ Michigan to PSU and Rutgers would benefit in terms of playoffs, bowls, recruiting and W/Ls.
INSANITY! WAKE UP DELANY!
Agreed. It would help the studs, even if reducing the number of monster games by even 1, and it would help the lower teams who are made to look a lot worse ( and not qualify for bowls) because they are playing a HOF schedule every season.
But I expect no change.
ETA: I realized belatedly that SoCal already said everything I did, and more clearly. Sorry for the wasted electrons.
If PSU had the last decade Maryland or Rutgers did, you think they'd really have 98k fans? 10 years of failure can destroy a fan base, believe me we were selling out Maryland stadium in 2005-2007. Every game we had 50k plus.
Ummmm, gonna have to call this out and say bs here. Psu in the last decade had the worst scandal in the history of college sports and their fans still came out and supported them. If that wouldn’t push people away a few losing seasons certainly would not. There’s NOTHING to do in that town and the surrounding areas besides cow tipping and some hiking.
Plenty of ways to criticize psu, but you’ve missed the mark here
It could be OSU, Michigan, or PSU. 10 years of losing would change things for those programs drastically.
Our fans obsession of other teams is really crazy. It really is, I'm not sure theres another fanbase quite like it
In the past 20 years, PSU has withstood its worst five-year stretch in program history (2000-2004), half of your 10-year example, and had to deal with the Sandusky scandal. Neither did more than put a small dent in attendance. Comparing the connection between the Maryland fan base for a three-year window and that of Penn State is comical.
I agree with your overall point, but the idea that State College or even Centre County is supporting attendance of 100,000+ is incorrect. The majority of fans at PSU games drive in from Philly, NJ/NY, Pittsburgh, Maryland/Virginia, etc.
You're correct in that central PA doesn't have much going on other than outdoor activities, but that isn't why the stadium gets filled seven times a year.
No.. the answer is far simpler than that. The people that go to PSU games are invested BIG TIME. It would take quite awhile before they walk away from those investments. Simply put, they are priced in. But a decade of mediocrity could begin to reverse that. Hopefully we'll get to test that theory.
Its not like its an open market for every seat to PSU games every year. Its not like those attending can say, well, they are gonna such again this year so I won't renew.. but if they get better, then I'll come back. Season ticket holders' investments in the program boost attendance in mediocre years.
But look at it this way.. how much help for Franklin came rushing in after a couple mediocre years? PSU knows there is danger in sustained mediocrity. The Golden Goose needed help and they gave it.
No problem because I wish it would be talked about constantly.
IT HAS TO BE DONE. Rutgers to OSU. Everyone needs to bring awareness on social media, ADs etc.
This BIG East is brutal and does NO FAVORS for CFP or bowls. Too much to write but it is obvious.
Psu had a solid 4-5 years of losing seasons in the early 00’s. It’s a school with a following the size of Texas, Tennessee, etc. those schools have struggled in recent years and fan interest isn’t down.
Your flat out wrong on this one. Maryland is actually a great example of this, your MBB program has been pathetic compared to the Gary Williams years. Yet they still pack that arena for games... see the correlation?
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What are you even talking about? Franklin won the Big 10 his 3rd year there, how much quicker could a program want?
4 stars absolutely matter. But so do the high 3 stars for building programs like Rutgers. You can absolutely build a respectable team from Florida 3 stars, which I think a guy like Locksley is trying to do.
I also don't think the top teams in the division want the lower team acquiring talent. This whole idea of top teams caring for the building programs is LAUGHABLE! THey would much rather kick a Rutgers down further than have a upstart star HC like Schiano, who gets talent and challenges them.
Can you imagine the NJ talent that PSU or Michigan feeds off would actually stay home? Do I know need to mention the names?