McReady's comments on Kobe

RutherfordBHayes

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The Bears have been saying for months that since Leo and Kobe testimony prove blatant cheating, the only logical conclusion is that it is must be lies. That would require an organized conspiracy, therefore, "it must be Dan Mullen".

So, they bring in the process server (Lopaz) who was hired by Rebel Rags attorney to serve papers on Kobe Jones, who (surprise, surprise) is a former Landshark football player himself. Mcready writes an article on what this OleMiss fan says:

According to documents obtained by RebelGrove.com, Lopaz clearly heard Telesia [Kobe Mama] tell her husband, “I am tired of all this NCAA (expletive).”
Lopaz, in documents obtained by RebelGrove.com, then heard Melvin [Kobe Daddy] tell his wife, “We should get our own attorney instead of trusting Mississippi State’s attorneys. We are going to plead the Fifth. All of this was supposed to be confidential.”
Telesia responded, saying, “I’m tired of these damn coaches. If it wasn’t for that damn Dan Mullen, we wouldn’t be in this (expletive.)”
Kobe arrived at the family residence soon thereafter and accepted summons from Lopez. Before Lopaz left, he heard Melvin tell his son he needed to get his own attorney, adding, “You need to plead the Fifth the next time they interview you.”
Kobe responded, according to documents obtained by RebelGrove.com, telling his father, “I know what to do, Dad. We already have lawyers. The coaches told us the other day this would probably happen.”
https://olemiss.rivals.com/news/mccready-10-weekend-thoughts-presented-by-harry-alexander-76


Mcready goes on to say:

It’s reasonable to conclude Kobe Jones interviewed with the NCAA in February 2016 at the behest of Mississippi State representatives and perhaps Mullen himself.


Really? That's your reasonable conclusion? Look at what is quoted again: They are tired of all of this. After being sued, they might need an attorney. This was supposed to be confidential. They cuss Mullen. We have lawyers. Coaches told us this would happen.

Their "logical" conclusion is conspiracy? My logical conclusion is that they're sick of all of this and wondering if they should get their own lawyer. The only questionable part is cussing Mullen. For what? Maybe for instructing them to cooperate with enforcement and tell the truth rather than lie and say nothing happened (which makes the NCAA go away). That's as reasonable a conclusion as conspiracy... actually, that is more reasonable than an extremely popular, $4 million coach risking his career to frame a rival program that he is beating anyway.

These guys are desperately grasping at straws, and they wonder why the national media doesn't jump all over their hair-brained theories.
 

J-Dawg

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That sounds like the most fictional, amateurishly conceived conversation "overheard" by the process server. Mighty convenient, an unbiased observer would think. Almost TOO convenient. Hmm.


Why ANYONE would believe ANYTHING coming out of their camp right now, I'll never know. They'll been mostly wrong at every juncture, what makes them have a shred of correct info now? The crows are starting to crow before 9/11. They know it's coming and are squirming.







.......according to documents obtained by RebelGrove.com of course. Let's make sure to plug our livelihood in every sentence. Wouldn't be making up a story b/c they are hemorrhaging subscribers or anything... no, no.... never.
 
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coach66

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Yes, they are grasping at everything they can as they continue to swirl

around the comode as the final flush approaches and there is no shortage of Ole Miss homers stepping
forward in hopes of being their savior. It's pathetic to watch.
 
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aTotal360

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Translation: We are making a story from (private) message board rumors.
 

Dawgzilla

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Nobody likes to be sued. It's very stressful and attorneys are expensive. Even if you have done nothing wrong, you could lose.

Of course Kobe's patents blame MSU and Mullen. I'm sure they blame everyone. It's interesting that Kobe did not seem overly concerned about it.

And I agree....McCready's "reasonable conclusion" is just a blind guess that is neither supported nor refuted by this alleged evidence.
 

411dawg

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How would someone serving papers hear all of this. Isn't it at simple as handing them the paper and getting out of there?
 

patdog

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I've been served before. Takes about 2 seconds. Knock on door, open door, "are you patdog?", yes, "here", walks away.
 

RutherfordBHayes

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Black Bear lurkers,

The reason that Leo Lewis testimony about getting paid by you is credible and not by other schools (MSU) is simple. The NCAA has dozens of messages between Barney, your boosters, and Leo. The booster says in text to Barney (loose quote), "that was a waste of $10,000".

There is no evidence that other schools (MSU) paid him. It is the same reason why the NCAA didn't charge you with Tunsil taking money after he admitted it live on international television. They don't have evidence. I'm not saying other schools (MSU) didn't pay Leo. I'm not saying that the NCAA investigated it as hard as they could. But Leo's testimony is going to stick in your case because of all of an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence. And there is no investigation into MSU because there is a lack of evidence.

Another problem for you; Leo isn't going before the COI to allow you to revisit his credibility and take more evidence. Leo is going before the COI to allow you to ask questions so that you don't have that excuse in your inevitable appeal.

Also, the COI isn't going to hear anything about "other schools" because this case is about OleMiss and their infractions. The second you bring that up, they will shut that down. This hearing is about only OleMiss.
 
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Dawgzilla

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sounds like he was there for awhile.

Kobe wasn't home, so he was waiting on him to get there....Then he says the parents called Kobe and had him on speaker phone.

He shouldn't have needed to stay, though. In Mississippi, service papers can be left at a person's residence with any family member over 16 (I think). That person has to accept service, though, so if Kobe's mom refused service maybe he needed to wait.

And again, this is like QUADRUPLE hearsay or something. McCready says that some unidentified document says that the process server said that Kobe's parents said....
 
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bulldognation

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Plain and simple: Ole Miss is not to be trusted with anything.

Speculation and hearsay do not equal facts. They're rumors. We thrive off rumors in the off season, because they're fun to throw around. But the purpose they serve to the Ole Miss camp is to keep that narrative wagon rolling

I'd love to see a count of how many times OM media has used phrases such as the following:


  • 'Sources say'
  • 'A recent rumor surfaced'
  • 'Person X was overheard saying ... '
  • 'It is possible that .... occurred'

Pure speculation driven by an unbridled desire to win over the argument no matter how much of a lie must be told to do so. When you see this sort of speech, it's never to be trusted. It's fabricating facts solely to support a narrative designed to deflect attention from their own impending doom. All this while they try to cast MSU as the 'real' cheaters in all of this. They are so awash in their own mindset that they are being smeared and conspired against because 'poor little brother' just can't accept them winning. Ponder the hypocrisy.

Here's an example:

"I over heard a buddy of mine who's close to the situation make a statement that Yancey and Matt Luke were seen checking into a nearby motel with a couple of escorts in tow. Yancey has been STRANGELY SILENT ABOUT THIS LITTLE EPISODE. Pretty telling if you ask me. "

A little uncertainty mixed a juicy story that your followers are eager to lap up, and it's off to the races for like-minded folks to latch onto a rumor and keep circulating it until it's believed to have actually happened.
 

411dawg

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I don't know many people that are going to invite a process server in for coffee to wait for their child. All of this UM stuff may have a slight thread of truth, but I can't believe it for all of this fantasy land tales.
 

Mjoelner

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So LopAz was hired to deliver the summons but Kobe actually accepted it from LopEz. Nice. I wonder if Kobe's name was spelled Kobey on the summons.
 

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I don't pretend to know what did or didn't happen, but I don't understand why an SEC coach would be eager to get one or more of his current players in front of the NCAA enforcement staff. I require more evidence before I am convinced Mississippi State coaches are behind Mississippi State players being interviewed by the NCAA.
 

RiverCityDawg

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Nobody likes to be sued. It's very stressful and attorneys are expensive. Even if you have done nothing wrong, you could lose.

Of course Kobe's patents blame MSU and Mullen. I'm sure they blame everyone. It's interesting that Kobe did not seem overly concerned about it.

And I agree....McCready's "reasonable conclusion" is just a blind guess that is neither supported nor refuted by this alleged evidence.

This exactly. Those quotes, even if true, in no way support the idea of this grand conspiracy. It just supports the idea that the parents are frustrated that their son has been sued, which would be a given.
 

johnson86-1

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I don't pretend to know what did or didn't happen, but I don't understand why an SEC coach would be eager to get one or more of his current players in front of the NCAA enforcement staff. I require more evidence before I am convinced Mississippi State coaches are behind Mississippi State players being interviewed by the NCAA.

The idea that Mullen is contacting the NCAA and presenting MSU players to be interviewed is one of the most delusional beliefs UM fans have, and that's some stiff competition.

About the only way it makes sense is if Mullen is ready to hang it up and retire at any time and dislikes Ole Miss enough to try to sic the NCAA on them and doesn't care enough about MSU to want to prevent any blowback on MSU.

It's certainly possible, but it's far fetched to say the least. Seems much more likely that MSU has just been trying to get out of this as quickly as possible while avoiding any more involvement than they have to in order to avoid NCAA trouble for not being cooperative.
 
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The idea that Mullen is contacting the NCAA and presenting MSU players to be interviewed is one of the most delusional beliefs UM fans have, and that's some stiff competition.

About the only way it makes sense is if Mullen is ready to hang it up and retire at any time and dislikes Ole Miss enough to try to sic the NCAA on them and doesn't care enough about MSU to want to prevent any blowback on MSU.

It's certainly possible, but it's far fetched to say the least. Seems much more likely that MSU has just been trying to get out of this as quickly as possible while avoiding any more involvement than they have to in order to avoid NCAA trouble for not being cooperative.

There is a 0.00% chance that any MSU coach made initial contact with the NCAA. I'm fairly confident that any contact with the NCAA would initially go through Bracky. As paranoid and overly cautious as he is, I'm not even slightly worried that Bracky allowed us to put our-self in a compromising situation.
 

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They are all grasping at straws. There is an obvious leadership void and they're all starting to go in different directions.

And I've decided Dan Mullen is a 17'n genius for masterminding all of this. He should give up coaching football & enter politics...
 
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Rebel or Dawg, if you believe this story...your and idiot

that has to be the biggest crock of **** that has come out of the rebel camp since this whole investigation started.....like patdog said, that is not what happens when you get served....

Neil, Yancy, et al....

No one in the SEC believes you
No one in the NCAA believes you
No one in the national media believes you
Half your fan base doesn't believe you.....

pretty 17'n small island you are on right now....and you are really making your law school look more like a junior college night class
 

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ive never seen an administration via boosters and friendly media attack a player (in this case, two players) this way before. it appears if they cant buy them anymore, they will threaten them. lets see how this plays out.
 

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The idea that Mullen is contacting the NCAA and presenting MSU players to be interviewed is one of the most delusional beliefs UM fans have, and that's some stiff competition.

About the only way it makes sense is if Mullen is ready to hang it up and retire at any time and dislikes Ole Miss enough to try to sic the NCAA on them and doesn't care enough about MSU to want to prevent any blowback on MSU.

It's certainly possible, but it's far fetched to say the least. Seems much more likely that MSU has just been trying to get out of this as quickly as possible while avoiding any more involvement than they have to in order to avoid NCAA trouble for not being cooperative.

Believe that the NCAA stated in their response (?) it was a nonSEC school that alerted them to LL recruitment and possible impermissible benefits. That just doesn't fit another of OM false narratives
 

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There is a 0.00% chance that any MSU coach made initial contact with the NCAA. I'm fairly confident that any contact with the NCAA would initially go through Bracky. As paranoid and overly cautious as he is, I'm not even slightly worried that Bracky allowed us to put our-self in a compromising situation.

Anyone that is the slightest bit worried about Leo's situation needs to read this and read it again and again as needed. Bracky wouldn't allow Leo anywhere near the football field if there was the slightest hint of anything wrong.