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[Colin2299]

2027 4-star QB Trae Taylor transferring to Millard South for senior year

Nebraska four-star 2027 quarterback commit Trae Taylor explained to Rivals' Greg Smith why he's transferring for his senior year.

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Here's one. Taylor openly said he transfered to a Nebraska HS to help recruit and for NIL opportunities.

You also think the QB from Plainfield East just up and decided to transfer to MC without being contacted by Lynch? There's also been a number of private to private school transfers, you think all those were based on coaches pitching them on their potential?

It's not remotely the same landscape that it was 10-20 years ago, It's monkey see, monkey do and kids see all the college players doing it for more money so HS kids are doing the same and the IHSA, much like the NCAA, appear to be turning a blind eye.

Taylor is the exception (an odd one at that) and certainly not the rule.

Everything is your opinion and no fact.

 

[JCHillmen10]

I know we've discussed this but I'm 110% sure that Coach Lynch did not reach out to a QB from Plainfield with average at best numbers and encourage him to transfer to MC because they needed a QB when he has 3 capable ones in the building already. Did his family reach out to MC and Coach Lynch said he is welcome to come and compete? Thats what happened.

If he was going to look for a QB it wouldn't be for a QB with average stats from a mid level program and think that he could jump 3 other QBs and be the starter in one of the States toughest conference with probably the toughest schedule in the state. You can think what you want but you would be wrong if you think he was scouted out by Lynch....it was the other way around.

If I'm wrong then so be it, that's means he had a great off season, learned the offense and beat out the others in summer workouts but I think his chances are slim.

I think there are two other Carmelite schools in Illinois that would have made much more sense for such a transfer, both of them with QB needs for the upcoming fall. And one of them is much closer to Plainfield.

 

[McCaravan]

I think there are two other Carmelite schools in Illinois that would have made much more sense for such a transfer, both of them with QB needs for the upcoming fall. And one of them is much closer to Plainfield.

COM got the QB from Warren. And I read while not a QB JCA got a real good football player and wrestler from Johnsburg

 

[4Afan]

Taylor is the exception (an odd one at that) and certainly not the rule.

Everything is your opinion and no fact.

If you believe that coaches never initiate contact with transfers then I have some ocean front property in Morris to sell you.

 

[Colin2299]

If you believe that coaches never initiate contact with transfers then I have some ocean front property in Morris to sell you.

Again, just general/no fact comments from you.

Since you are in the know on the new world of NIL and transfer portal happenings - how is the Morris staff handling the portal and doing the most to help their kids with NIL? They convincing kids to transfer to Morris to help position them “to get the bag” of NIL money?

 

[Anon622286]

Lynch really knows how to develop talent to fit his system. There are plenty of guys on the roster who came in with zero stars as freshmen and now they’re sitting at four stars. That doesn’t happen by accident. He’s doing a great job — definitely an awesome coach.

This is a joke right? Of course they come in with no stars. On 247 sports there are zero kids rated for the class of 2029.

https://247sports.com/season/2029-football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

 

[Colin2299]

This is a joke right? Of course they come in with no stars. On 247 sports there are zero kids rated for the class of 2029.

https://247sports.com/season/2029-football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool

Two things can be true at the same time.

 

[4Afan]

Again, just general/no fact comments from you.

Since you are in the know on the new world of NIL and transfer portal happenings - how is the Morris staff handling the portal and doing the most to help their kids with NIL? They convincing kids to transfer to Morris to help position them “to get the bag” of NIL money?

Honestly, that's a great question and I would love to know the answer.

Over the last 5ish years the amount of kids transferring, no matter what type of school it is, is insane, and if you think coaches aren't making contact then I wish I could be as naive as you. I'm not implying they're doing anything against the rules because I have no clue what is even allowed these days or if the IHSA just no longer cares.

Are schools utilizing legal NIL channels and if so, how? Are they giving kids money to transfer? Are they paying them NIL money in the form of rent for an apartment in the school district for public schools? I've been surprised that NIL in high school hasn't been a bigger topic, or maybe it's still just all hush hush.

 

[Anon622286]

Two things can be true at the same time.

Sure, not saying Lynch doesn't do any development. But its pretty disingenuous to claim he is taking "zero stars as freshmen" and his development is what is turning them into 4 stars as if these 4 star kids weren't incredibly talented as freshmen.

 

[Colin2299]

Honestly, that's a great question and I would love to know the answer.

Over the last 5ish years the amount of kids transferring, no matter what type of school it is, is insane, and if you think coaches aren't making contact then I wish I could be as naive as you. I'm not implying they're doing anything against the rules because I have no clue what is even allowed these days or if the IHSA just no longer cares.

Are schools utilizing legal NIL channels and if so, how? Are they giving kids money to transfer? Are they paying them NIL money in the form of rent for an apartment in the school district for public schools? I've been surprised that NIL in high school hasn't been a bigger topic, or maybe it's still just all hush hush.

If you don’t know what your own HS is doing, why are you assuming you know what others are doing?

If coaches are proactively making contact, that is a violation to IHSA rules.

 

[4Afan]

If you don’t know what your own HS is doing, why are you assuming you know what others are doing?

If coaches are proactively making contact, that is a violation to IHSA rules.

Haven't lived in Morris for years, my friend.

Is it? Honest question, what are the transfer rules these days? We've never seen this many kids transferring so have the rules changed to make it easier? Is the IHSA turning a blind eye? With NIL being legal I don't see how coaches and schools aren't reaching out to kids.

 

[Colin2299]

Haven't lived in Morris for years, my friend.

Is it? Honest question, what are the transfer rules these days? We've never seen this many kids transferring so have the rules changed to make it easier? Is the IHSA turning a blind eye? With NIL being legal I don't see how coaches and schools aren't reaching out to kids.

Because it's illegal and the IHSA has the same transfer rules as they always have.

IMO, parents are different nowadays and think the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. That's why there is so much transferring. "My son would be getting more offers if he was at X school".

This and public schools aren't what they used to be (I've given several examples of how districts have changed over the past 10 years).

 

[SiuCubFan8]

Because it's illegal and the IHSA has the same transfer rules as they always have.

IMO, parents are different nowadays and think the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. That's why there is so much transferring. "My son would be getting more offers if he was at X school".

This and public schools aren't what they used to be (I've given several examples of how districts have changed over the past 10 years).

No doubt parents have something to do with it but so do kids and coaches...It is all tied together.

 

[Colin2299]

No doubt parents have something to do with it but so do kids and coaches...

Agreed.

I think coaches are a distant third.

 

[SiuCubFan8]

Agreed.

I think coaches are a distant third.

I do not have a strong opinion on ranking them but I wouldn't assume coaches are a distant 3rd. I'd start that they are all playing an equal part. You have assistant coaches that run training programs and poof all of a sudden a few of those kids transfer to the school he coaches at.

 

[pjjp]

COM got the QB from Warren. And I read while not a QB JCA got a real good football player and wrestler from Johnsburg

JCA still needs a QB. Maybe MC can send one that doesn’t win the QB derby their way.

 

[Colin2299]

I do not have a strong opinion on ranking them but I wouldn't assume coaches are a distant 3rd. You have assistant coaches that run training programs and poof all of a sudden a few of those kids transfer to the school he coaches at.

Where does this happen at? Not saying it doesn't but I haven't heard any rumblings of this anywhere. Quick google search and I don't see any Chicagoland QB trainers who are coaching IHSA football.

 

[SiuCubFan8]

Where does this happen at? Not saying it doesn't but I haven't heard any rumblings of this anywhere. Quick google search and I don't see any Chicagoland QB trainers who are coaching IHSA football.

I never said QB trainer…

 

[Colin2299]

I never said QB trainer…

I know...

 

[SiuCubFan8]

I know...

nm

 

[4Afan]

Because it's illegal and the IHSA has the same transfer rules as they always have.

IMO, parents are different nowadays and think the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. That's why there is so much transferring. "My son would be getting more offers if he was at X school".

This and public schools aren't what they used to be (I've given several examples of how districts have changed over the past 10 years).

So what's the driving force for transfers from private to private? What makes a kid want to transfer from Montini to Franny? Or Marist to Rita?

Same question for public to public. Do we really think USC wouldn't have found Jonas if he stayed at Bolingbrook? There's more going on than meets the eye and just because it isn't talked about doesn't mean it isn't happening.

 

[McCaravan]

JCA still needs a QB. Maybe MC can send one that doesn’t win the QB derby their way.

I know JCA is starting to open up the offense a bit and incorporating the pass more, but JCA probably isn't a place where most QBs are looking to transfer too unless they are mainly a runner. They want to throw the ball. If you are a hard nose running back, strong offensive linemen, or tough as nails defenseman that is what attracts players to JCA, not QBs looking to throw for 3,000 plus yards and 25 plus TDs

 

[McCaravan]

So what's the driving force for transfers from private to private? What makes a kid want to transfer from Montini to Franny? Or Marist to Rita?

Same question for public to public. Do we really think USC wouldn't have found Jonas if he stayed at Bolingbrook? There's more going on than meets the eye and just because it isn't talked about doesn't mean it isn't happening.

So many reasons....I'll give a few that I've been told and can see being legit reasons

1. Coaching or current schools game plan. Either the players, or many cases the parents, don't like the Coaching or the playbook and it doesn't fit to the players strength. Coaches aren't doing enough to help them get noticed.

2. They want to win. Some are with programs that don't have a lot of success and they want to play for a consistent powerhouse that is poised to have a big season. The more success the team has, the better they get noticed.

3. Exposure- current school doesn't play in a strong conference or play a strong schedule and they arent drawing enough attention. They want to go to a school that attracts media and social media attention which they think will lead to more offers.

4. Better supporting cast- I'm a good WR but if I played for a school with a high D1 QB I'd be a amazing WR...or I'm a good RB but wonder how good I would be if I ran behind a certain OL...or I'm a great LB but I'm forced to make every tackle because I have no help and it's beating the hell of me....you so forth and so on

5. They want to see how good they really are. I'm a good player in a smaller 4A or 5A but can I compete with the bigger schools against bigger talent and if I can will I get better offers.

6. My school doesn't give a crap about football and I want to go to a school that does.

7. BOOM and other off season 7 on 7 leagues. "Hey man, we are killing it out here, come to my school we could use you and keep this going all year and we will dominate"

8. Parents- No explanation needed

9. Your paying this for tuition, we will charge you this lesser amount

10. Final reason and it's very true and happens more then you think, especially underclassmen and that's "I don't like this school" teachers, academics, not fitting in, the commute, I miss my girlfriend who is at this school, in many Catholic schools they are told "You are all too strict". Sometimes it's really because they flat out just don't like the school.

 

[pjjp]

I know JCA is starting to open up the offense a bit and incorporating the pass more, but JCA probably isn't a place where most QBs are looking to transfer too unless they are mainly a runner. They want to throw the ball. If you are a hard nose running back, strong offensive linemen, or tough as nails defenseman that is what attracts players to JCA, not QBs looking to throw for 3,000 plus yards and 25 plus TDs

Agreed. JCA has been moving away from being a run dominated offense. If they get a QB transfer, I’m guessing said transfer will be told he will be throwing the ball. No one is transferring there to run the double wing.

 

[Colin2299]

So what's the driving force for transfers from private to private? What makes a kid want to transfer from Montini to Franny? Or Marist to Rita?

Same question for public to public. Do we really think USC wouldn't have found Jonas if he stayed at Bolingbrook? There's more going on than meets the eye and just because it isn't talked about doesn't mean it isn't happening.

You just keep answering questions with questions. Thats not an answer.

You don’t know anything. You just assume with zero facts.

 

[Colin2299]

So many reasons....I'll give a few that I've been told and can see being legit reasons

1. Coaching or current schools game plan. Either the players, or many cases the parents, don't like the Coaching or the playbook and it doesn't fit to the players strength. Coaches aren't doing enough to help them get noticed.

2. They want to win. Some are with programs that don't have a lot of success and they want to play for a consistent powerhouse that is poised to have a big season. The more success the team has, the better they get noticed.

3. Exposure- current school doesn't play in a strong conference or play a strong schedule and they arent drawing enough attention. They want to go to a school that attracts media and social media attention which they think will lead to more offers.

4. Better supporting cast- I'm a good WR but if I played for a school with a high D1 QB I'd be a amazing WR...or I'm a good RB but wonder how good I would be if I ran behind a certain OL...or I'm a great LB but I'm forced to make every tackle because I have no help and it's beating the hell of me....you so forth and so on

5. They want to see how good they really are. I'm a good player in a smaller 4A or 5A but can I compete with the bigger schools against bigger talent and if I can will I get better offers.

6. My school doesn't give a crap about football and I want to go to a school that does.

7. BOOM and other off season 7 on 7 leagues. "Hey man, we are killing it out here, come to my school we could use you and keep this going all year and we will dominate"

8. Parents- No explanation needed

9. Your paying this for tuition, we will pay you this.

10. Final reason and it's very true and happens more then you think, especially underclassmen and that's "I don't like this school" teachers, academics, not fitting in, the commute, I miss my girlfriend who is at this school, in many Catholic schools they are told "You are all too strict". Sometimes it's really because they flat out just don't like the school.

This is why the kid from Johnsburg just transferred to JCA. Not because JCA’s coaches recruited him.

 

[McCaravan]

Agreed. JCA has been moving away from being a run dominated offense. If they get a QB transfer, I’m guessing said transfer will be told he will be throwing the ball. No one is transferring there to run the double wing.

The offense still works and is a SOB to prepare for in a short time especially if you never had seen it much. Trust me that myself and all fellow MC fans know this from when we ran the Veer. It worked and it was successful for the same reasons but as the wide open offenses an RPO took charge, MC began getting less and less of the athletes they used to attract just by winning seasons. The only way that was going to change was with a coaching change and the band-aid rip was done and had been a success.

 

[4Afan]

This is why the kid from Johnsburg just transferred to JCA. Not because JCA’s coaches recruited him.

Lol you cherry pick the one kid who had parents that went to JCA, but have failed to answer any of my questions.

 

[4Afan]

So many reasons....I'll give a few that I've been told and can see being legit reasons

1. Coaching or current schools game plan. Either the players, or many cases the parents, don't like the Coaching or the playbook and it doesn't fit to the players strength. Coaches aren't doing enough to help them get noticed.

2. They want to win. Some are with programs that don't have a lot of success and they want to play for a consistent powerhouse that is poised to have a big season. The more success the team has, the better they get noticed.

3. Exposure- current school doesn't play in a strong conference or play a strong schedule and they arent drawing enough attention. They want to go to a school that attracts media and social media attention which they think will lead to more offers.

4. Better supporting cast- I'm a good WR but if I played for a school with a high D1 QB I'd be a amazing WR...or I'm a good RB but wonder how good I would be if I ran behind a certain OL...or I'm a great LB but I'm forced to make every tackle because I have no help and it's beating the hell of me....you so forth and so on

5. They want to see how good they really are. I'm a good player in a smaller 4A or 5A but can I compete with the bigger schools against bigger talent and if I can will I get better offers.

6. My school doesn't give a crap about football and I want to go to a school that does.

7. BOOM and other off season 7 on 7 leagues. "Hey man, we are killing it out here, come to my school we could use you and keep this going all year and we will dominate"

8. Parents- No explanation needed

9. Your paying this for tuition, we will charge you this lesser amount

10. Final reason and it's very true and happens more then you think, especially underclassmen and that's "I don't like this school" teachers, academics, not fitting in, the commute, I miss my girlfriend who is at this school, in many Catholic schools they are told "You are all too strict". Sometimes it's really because they flat out just don't like the school.

Finally, an answer to a question, and well done at that. My biggest issue is with point #2. Yes, absolutely, I agree kids want to win, but ultimately kids with future aspirations have bigger ambitions than a state title and that's where I question their motives.

To your point about coaches, how much contact are they having with kids? I'm not saying it's a HC like Lynch or Coach Z, but we've all seen the amount of people on the sidelines at games. What is their connection to the school and do they have a role in bringing players in?

 

[4Afan]

You just keep answering questions with questions. Thats not an answer.

You don’t know anything. You just assume with zero facts.

That's rich, any answer from you on any number of topics would be a shock. You question recruiting, you question why small towns can't field teams, but just keep yelling at clouds rather than providing any answers to anything.