Mayden’s Dad

bruiser.sixpack

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We met Jalen Mayden’s dad at a Raceway near Atlanta coming back from our Christmas Vacation on Christmas Day. He was heading for Miami to watch Alabama, who his older son plays for, and then back to Tampa to watch the Dogs play.

Since Joe has been entertaining some of these transfer QBs lately, the assumption has been that his faith in KT to run his offense is not strong. To that end, it seems very possible that Mayden could be ahead of KT come Spring Game. What say the pack?
 

msstate7

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For whatever reason, it appears joe doesn't have confidence in key. No idea if Mayden has a legit shot or not
 

Len2003

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I guess it's possible. At this point, it's clear that the coaching staff thinks there are better options out there than KT. They obviously think there are better options than Mayden too though.
 

patdog

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I think people are reading WAY too much into Moorhead trying to bring in a guide experienced starter.
 

Col. Forbin

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I have heard that Mayden is going to be ahead of KT in the spring. You know, sources and all.
 

msstate7

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I think people are reading WAY too much into Moorhead trying to bring in a guide experienced starter.

It just seemed Moorhead was reluctant to go to key even in mop up duty. LSU and OM come to mind as perfect spots to play him
 

Msubulldogfan1

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It just seemed Moorhead was reluctant to go to key even in mop up duty. LSU and OM come to mind as perfect spots to play him
You think Moorhead didn’t bring in KT in mopup-duty because he isn’t good?

Read that out loud and you’ll see how stupid that sounds.
 
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I don't get this repeated idea that just because a coach is entertaining other recruits for QB, it means they lack confidence in who they have.

Because no coach wants two good QBs on his team? Why would any coach want multiple good QBs?**

This is a dumb discussion. I will agree that KT does not have the starting job locked up, and he shouldn't. It will be competition in the spring and Moorhead will go with the guy that gives us the best chance to win. Period.
 

PineGroveBully

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No matter what JoMo said publicly, the reason he was reluctant to go with him in such spots in the 2nd half of the season is because he had second thoughts on burning KT's redshirt. That said, I have no idea if he has regressed but it seems plausible.
 

jumpdawg

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What does the question have to do with meeting Mayden's dad? Did you ask him about the situation? Did he lead you to think Mayden has leap-frogged KT?

Seems as if you are asking for a discussion on the situation and I'm just trying to clear up if the reason for the question is that Mr. Mayden led you to a conclusion.
 

msstate7

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You think Moorhead didn’t bring in KT in mopup-duty because he isn’t good?

Read that out loud and you’ll see how stupid that sounds.

I don't think Moorhead sees key as a future asset and thus not really concerned with getting him experience any chance he gets. Maybe I'm wrong...
 
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I don't get this repeated idea that just because a coach is entertaining other recruits for QB, it means they lack confidence in who they have.

Because no coach wants two good QBs on his team? Why would any coach want multiple good QBs?**

This is a dumb discussion. I will agree that KT does not have the starting job locked up, and he shouldn't. It will be competition in the spring and Moorhead will go with the guy that gives us the best chance to win. Period.


Because the likelihood that KT transfers if we landed a graduate transfer qb to play next year is extremely high. Not many 4 star qb’s are going to spend their entire college career as a backup qb for one school in this day and age. If Joe thought KT was the guy for the job he would not be running the huge risk of him leaving if he landed another starter.
 

Dawgzilla

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IIRC, the LSU game was KT's 5th game, so the RS was burned. I don't know why Moorhead didn't use him more after that game. Of course, he got the one second quarter series against A&M that was a disaster, but he looked great in the mop up duty he got against La. Tech and Arkansas. I definitely though he should have gotten snap late in the Alabama game....the Egg Bowl is debatable since it was Nick's last game against the ankle breakers.

I'm afraid Moorhead's lack of major conference experience is the culprit. Perhaps he doesn't realize -- or doesn't agree -- that just having your backup take live snaps in front of big crowds can be valuable experience for the future.
 

Dawgzilla

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I understand that QB transfers are becoming commonplace, but I wouldn't just assume that KT would leave. Hopefully the coaches are keeping him informed about where he stands and why they courted a possible transfer.
 

tbaydog

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Bowl game 15 practice goes out the window. if memory serves me, Ole Miss game KT played good. 15 practices as # 1 and bowl game, played good. This season, well below par...........
 

Dawgzilla

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When did KT play "below par" other than those 3 plays against A&M? He barely played, but when he was on the field he was fine, alhtough it was against weak competition.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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I don't think Moorhead sees key as a future asset and thus not really concerned with getting him experience any chance he gets. Maybe I'm wrong...

If he thinks KT sucks, he’s not just gonna throw his hands up in the air and not coach him, or let him play to try to improve bro. Come on now.
 

msstate7

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Why would any head coach not want to have depth at the QB position?

Even if Joe didn’t think KT can play, why would he put all his eggs in the QB transfer basket? That would be idiotic.

You don't pursue grad transfers if you like your qb depth chart. Time will tell if you're right. I think the chances of key starting less than 6 games next season are high though
 

bocephus.sixpack

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When did KT play "below par" other than those 3 plays against A&M? He barely played, but when he was on the field he was fine, alhtough it was against weak competition.

I'm not savy enough to look it up but I remember KT's series he did have usually ended up scoring or kicking FG's.
 

57stratdawg

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QB is a unique position though. Going after grad transfers at QB is much different than going after one at OT or WR.
 

gasdawg

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KT was much more polished as a passer out of high school than Nick and Dak. I just don’t see a scenario outside of a talent like KB or Justin Fields that KT won’t be our starter next year. He may not be Joe’s guy, but the dude is as talented of a QB that we have signed. Ever.
 

msstate7

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KT was much more polished as a passer out of high school than Nick and Dak. I just don’t see a scenario outside of a talent like KB or Justin Fields that KT won’t be our starter next year. He may not be Joe’s guy, but the dude is as talented of a QB that we have signed. Ever.

I think joe wants to get a transfer and turn it over to shrader in 2020
 

wdawg44

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Next fall we will have a jr, rs fr, and fr in the qb room. Why wouldn't he be looking for an upperclassman transfer? I think KT starts next year and I am excited to see it. I think Moorhead probably likes what he has in KT. I think Moorhead is also scared as 17 that if KT goes down we will be starting a true or rs freshman at qb.
 

gasdawg

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I think joe wants to get a transfer and turn it over to shrader in 2020

I don’t disagree with that. I definitely think Joe sees Shrader as our qb of the future. I would personally like to see KT earn the job by a long shot the next two years. KT is probably a perfect fit for Mullen’s offense. Not really sure what a perfect fit at qb is for Joe’s offense yet.
 

RocketDawg

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Next fall we will have a jr, rs fr, and fr in the qb room. Why wouldn't he be looking for an upperclassman transfer? I think KT starts next year and I am excited to see it. I think Moorhead probably likes what he has in KT. I think Moorhead is also scared as 17 that if KT goes down we will be starting a true or rs freshman at qb.

That's probably the real reason. KT played really well in the one game he started and had to himself. It's hard for anybody to look good when they go in for just one series, and in most cases, not even play at all.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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What does the question have to do with meeting Mayden's dad? Did you ask him about the situation? Did he lead you to think Mayden has leap-frogged KT?

Seems as if you are asking for a discussion on the situation and I'm just trying to clear up if the reason for the question is that Mr. Mayden led you to a conclusion.

A couple of things. Mayden’s Dad seemed genuinely excited about Jalen being a Bulldog, so I don’t think he is concerned at where Jalen May be in the depth chart.

And that short exchangecwirh him made me “wonder” about where the two returning QB’s are in competition for the job, knowing that in January, we will have a True Freshman QB with lots of Accolades joining a RS Freshman (Mayden) who had all the accolades last year coming in, and a Junior(Thompson) who had all the accolades coming in two years ago. At the same time, with what seems to be a plethora of 4 star talent at QB for the first time in our history, we have a coach looking for a Grad transfer QB. I thought it was a good time for a discussion, simply for those reasons.
 

PineGroveBully

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msstate7

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Where is your evidence? I gave you sports-reference which is the end all be all of sports stats online. But they could be wrong. But https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/keytaon-thompson-player-game-log also?

Or ESPN, well yea they could be wrong but they agree with the other 2 sites.
http://m.espn.com/ncf/playergamelog?playerId=4242243


I guess it's plausible all 3 sites used research that reflected games in which he either attempted a pass or a rush, but I doubt that's the case.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/player/430/1087806/rushing/gamelog.html

He played in SFA, KSU, ULL, Florida, LSU, aTm, la tech, and ark
 

Dawgzilla

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He only had stats in 5 games, but he played in 8. In the other 3 games he just handed off.

https://static.hailstate.com/custompages/stats/fb/2018/plyr_1a.htm

#1A K. Thompson
Rushing Receiving Passing Kick Ret Punt Ret all
Date Opponent no. yds td lg no. yds td lg c-a-i yds td lg no. yds td lg no. yds td lg purp
Sep 01, 2018 STEPHEN F. AUSTIN 10 109 2 25 0 0 0 0 13-31-0 364 5 84 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 109
Sep 08, 2018 at Kansas State 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Sep 15, 2018 LOUISIANA 5 52 1 16 0 0 0 0 2-3-1 33 0 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 52
Sep 29, 2018 FLORIDA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Oct 20, 2018 at LSU 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Oct 27, 2018 TEXAS A&M 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0-0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Nov 03, 2018 LOUISIANA TECH 3 42 1 21 0 0 0 0 0-1-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 42
Nov 17, 2018 ARKANSAS 2 12 0 9 0 0 0 0 3-4-0 61 1 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12
Totals 21 216 4 25 0 0 0 0 18-39-1 458 6 84 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 216

<tbody>
</tbody>
Games: 8
Avg/rush: 10.3
Pass effic: 190.44
All purpose avg/game: 27.0
Total offense avg/gm: 84.2

<tbody>
</tbody>
 
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Next fall we will have a jr, rs fr, and fr in the qb room. Why wouldn't he be looking for an upperclassman transfer? I think KT starts next year and I am excited to see it. I think Moorhead probably likes what he has in KT. I think Moorhead is also scared as 17 that if KT goes down we will be starting a true or rs freshman at qb.

Why wouldn’t he? Well, it’s already been stated why he wouldn’t. You don’t bring in a grad transfer qb if you’re happy with what you’ve got, and what you’ve got is a Junior highly rated qb that is more than likely not going to be content sitting on the bench for another year when he could start at a school that fits his skill set better. Hopefully KT will improve his passing game and be the best qb we have ever had. If Joe thought that he was that guy right now he most certainly would not be running the risk of him leaving the program by bringing in a highly regarded grad transfer.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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That's probably the real reason. KT played really well in the one game he started and had to himself. It's hard for anybody to look good when they go in for just one series, and in most cases, not even play at all.

Well, no Grad Transfer is going to come in to be a backup. I suspect with Bryant, he saw our depth chart and decided he didn’t want to take the chance of being beaten out aGAIN. That is also the reason I dont think we have a shot with Field or with Hurts if he decides to transfer. Their reason to transfer is to be a starter. As was stated earlier, a 4 star doesntcwant to be a 4 year backup these days. Well a 5 star certainly doesn’t. MSU stockpiling 4 star QBs is unheard of. And now we have that (great) dilemma. Gonna be fun to watch how it plays out.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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Well, no Grad Transfer is going to come in to be a backup. I suspect with Bryant, he saw our depth chart and decided he didn’t want to take the chance of being beaten out aGAIN. That is also the reason I dont think we have a shot with Field or with Hurts if he decides to transfer. Their reason to transfer is to be a starter. As was stated earlier, a 4 star doesntcwant to be a 4 year backup these days. Well a 5 star certainly doesn’t. MSU stockpiling 4 star QBs is unheard of. And now we have that (great) dilemma. Gonna be fun to watch how it plays out.

UT took a grad transfer this year who ended up being the backup, happens all the time.
 
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