What I am watching is putrid. Not Millen
LOL. Bring it on, tough guy. Better sober up before you drive over here, though.
No worries. You’d whoop me, bud
I thought he called a good game. He went on and on over Spielman and Wandale. Rightly so. I’m guessing he knows JD from his Lions time. He’s no Brock Huard but better than Beth Mowins.
Wasn't the guy in his avatar a drill instructor at one time?I couldn't whoop the guy you have for your avatar.
His color commentary is only matched by his General Manager performance in its prutridness.
Seemed to me like he was very complimentary of some things Nebraska did and tried to do....In the past I've often not minded him, but tonight I couldn't stand him. Constant whining about a bunch of minor crap Nebraska supposedly got away with, completely ignoring numerous things Illinois could/should have been called for. Ed Cunningham was still way worse, but tonight at least, Millen was not great.
To be honest, I spend most of the time with the game muted. That has nothing to do with this particular crew, I do it pretty much all the time now. I can't stand the constant inane blather, and so often anymore, the commentators seem to be completely clueless about the rules, so I don't really care what they have to say on those matters, I know the rules better than them. Saying that, it seemed like anytime I unmuted the TV to see what was going on, he was whining about something Nebraska got away with. Maybe it wasn't that bad, but it certainly seemed like it to me.Seemed to me like he was very complimentary of some things Nebraska did and tried to do....
And yes...Nebraska got away with a block in the back that was waved off and a massive defensive holding. Nothing supposed about them. Those were the only things I saw him mention (I will say that I didn't watch all of the 4th)....
Or...are you one of those guys that thinks that any "bias" shown by an announcer actually has an outcome on the game, and that Nebraska never commits penalties.....
The force of the initial contact was from the side, not the back, and is perfectly legal. Then there's this little tidbit under exceptions to the block in the back rule:Block in the Back ARTICLE 4. a. A block in the back is contact against an opponent occurring when the force of the initial contact is from behind and above the waist
The force of the initial contact was legal, and then while blocking him, the defender turned toward the ball carrier, which then caused his back to be toward him. Not a block in the back.4. When the opponent turns his back to the blocker
Choosing between those 2 is like picking the ugliest girl at closing time. I'd rather just go home and run one off and get some sleep.SmokinWinkingI'd much rather have Beth Mowins do our game than Millen. Dude is one of the worst of all time.
1) I know what the rule is. The Husker broke contact, and then pushed him in the back. It was obvious to any neutral viewer.To be honest, I spend most of the time with the game muted. That has nothing to do with this particular crew, I do it pretty much all the time now. I can't stand the constant inane blather, and so often anymore, the commentators seem to be completely clueless about the rules, so I don't really care what they have to say on those matters, I know the rules better than them. Saying that, it seemed like anytime I unmuted the TV to see what was going on, he was whining about something Nebraska got away with. Maybe it wasn't that bad, but it certainly seemed like it to me.
And no... Nebraska DIDN'T "get away" with a block in the back. Read the rule.
The force of the initial contact was from the side, not the back, and is perfectly legal. Then there's this little tidbit under exceptions to the block in the back rule:
The force of the initial contact was legal, and then while blocking him, the defender turned toward the ball carrier, which then caused his back to be toward him. Not a block in the back.
What "massive defensive holding"? If you're referring to the play Matt Millen whined about, Lamar Jackson briefly grabbed his shoulder, didn't even really impede him. If that's "massive defensive holding" then refs let A LOT of "massive defensive holding" go.
Yes. Of course a woman shouldn’t be calling football games. She should be in the kitchen making you a meal or pouring you a drink.He is way better than that woman trying to act like a man.
To be honest, I spend most of the time with the game muted. That has nothing to do with this particular crew, I do it pretty much all the time now. I can't stand the constant inane blather, and so often anymore, the commentators seem to be completely clueless about the rules, so I don't really care what they have to say on those matters, I know the rules better than them. Saying that, it seemed like anytime I unmuted the TV to see what was going on, he was whining about something Nebraska got away with. Maybe it wasn't that bad, but it certainly seemed like it to me.
And no... Nebraska DIDN'T "get away" with a block in the back. Read the rule.
The force of the initial contact was from the side, not the back, and is perfectly legal. Then there's this little tidbit under exceptions to the block in the back rule:
The force of the initial contact was legal, and then while blocking him, the defender turned toward the ball carrier, which then caused his back to be toward him. Not a block in the back.
What "massive defensive holding"? If you're referring to the play Matt Millen whined about, Lamar Jackson briefly grabbed his shoulder, didn't even really impede him. If that's "massive defensive holding" then refs let A LOT of "massive defensive holding" go.
The waved off block in the back was the correct call. Don't watch the replay. Watch the whole play. Stoll never broke contact. The mistake was not having the conference among the officials and just picking up the flag. That's better than announcing it and having to reverse yourself. The holding call missed should have been called, yes. But from the angle I can see why the ref couldn't see it. They also missed the pi on us to end their last drive. Yes I will admit the misses against us. Now for the misses against Illinois. Targeting, the holding call against our tackle that fell down causing defender to trip (which is not a hold), which killed a drive, the incomplete pass that turned into a fumble even though the whistle blew. It was a sloppy game by the cornhuskers and not a stellar game by the zebras.Seemed to me like he was very complimentary of some things Nebraska did and tried to do....
And yes...Nebraska got away with a block in the back that was waved off and a massive defensive holding. Nothing supposed about them. Those were the only things I saw him mention (I will say that I didn't watch all of the 4th)....
Or...are you one of those guys that thinks that any "bias" shown by an announcer actually has an outcome on the game, and that Nebraska never commits penalties.....
1) OK.....but I don't get why I shouldn't watch the replay? Isn't the replay the same play?The waved off block in the back was the correct call. Don't watch the replay. Watch the whole play. Stoll never broke contact. The mistake was not having the conference among the officials and just picking up the flag. That's better than announcing it and having to reverse yourself. The holding call missed should have been called, yes. But from the angle I can see why the ref couldn't see it. They also missed the pi on us to end their last drive. Yes I will admit the misses against us. Now for the misses against Illinois. Targeting, the holding call against our tackle that fell down causing defender to trip (which is not a hold), which killed a drive, the incomplete pass that turned into a fumble even though the whistle blew. It was a sloppy game by the cornhuskers and not a stellar game by the zebras.
Because on the replay the network played only shows the block in the back. If you can watch the game in replay or DVR, watch the actual play. Not the replay. In my opinion Stoll was blocking from the side and the defender gets by him and ultimately Stoll pushes the defender in the back. Which is legal as long as you had a block that initiated legally (meaning that you never disengaged the block- kept a hand on defender). That's how I saw it. It was borderline and I understand how a ref that saw the end would through the flag. However an official came in after the call was announced preliminarily and said "no way, I saw the whole thing and the block was legal".1) OK.....but I don't get why I shouldn't watch the replay? Isn't the replay the same play?
2) Agree on the defensive holding.....ref couldn't see it at that angle.
3) Targeting was missed. Agree on that as well.
4) Glad you seem to get that the team played a sloppy game...I just get tired of the whiners that call into the Husker Talk after the game and blame the officials for everything. Sorry if that got projected on you...
And...I'll admit that I'm not a Husker fan....but I live here, went to college here (not UNL, but in-state), and I have a lot of respect for the program as a whole (primarily history at this point....not a big fan of how Frost does things, and I don't mean Xs and Os)....hence my presence on here (much to the disgust of a few others).
No worries or offence taken.1) OK.....but I don't get why I shouldn't watch the replay? Isn't the replay the same play?
2) Agree on the defensive holding.....ref couldn't see it at that angle.
3) Targeting was missed. Agree on that as well.
4) Glad you seem to get that the team played a sloppy game, although I think more credit needs to be given to Illinois for causing some of the sloppiness...I just get tired of the whiners that call into the Husker Talk after the game and blame the officials for everything. Sorry if that got projected on you...
And...I'll admit that I'm not a Husker fan....but I live here, went to college here (not UNL, but in-state), and I have a lot of respect for the program as a whole (primarily history at this point....not a big fan of how Frost does things, and I don't mean Xs and Os)....hence my presence on here (much to the disgust of a few others).
Who cares. He should go enjoy his life then. His color commentary skills are that of a stupid john madden.That dude has probably been through more than you’ll ever wish. His commentary isn’t bad. He’s probably an eyelash away from dying and he’s in a booth calling a game while you sit in a chair and act like a billy bad ***
Who cares. He should go enjoy his life then. His color commentary skills are that of a stupid john madden.