Matt Luke survives

Wizard.sixpack

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Dude go the 17 on with your BS. If you can't see that Moorhead is a better coach than Luke then I feel for you. I would imagine it may take some time to get acclimated as a head coach in the SEC. He will be fine.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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He showed much progress last game

but I must be from Missouri...

He has some showing to do. (the Ky and Fla games were killers)

Time will tell.

I'm not a blind fool, and my eyes are wide open on this deal.
 

msstate7

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Dude go the 17 on with your BS. If you can't see that Moorhead is a better coach than Luke then I feel for you. I would imagine it may take some time to get acclimated as a head coach in the SEC. He will be fine.

We were a top 20 team that beat a dumpster fire. Great win
 

MSUDawgFan86

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You are a stupid dumbass idiot!

He’s not wrong with that statement. You don’t have a valid rebuttal right now so you resort to name calling when he’s clearly not a dumbass idiot. The Auburn win isn’t impressive. Auburn is a raging dumpster fire that lost to another dumpster fire program at home today.
 

DAWG61

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He’s not wrong with that statement. You don’t have a valid rebuttal right now so you resort to name calling when he’s clearly not a dumbass idiot. The Auburn win isn’t impressive. Auburn is a raging dumpster fire that lost to another dumpster fire program at home today.

Tennessee played their best game in 3 years yesterday and still only won by 6 points. That's with 3 turnovers and a scoop n score on defense. The Auburn win for us is impressive because we had 350 yards rushing and held the ball for 42 minutes. That's impressive vs any SEC team. Don't act like it isn't.
 

mount lefroy

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Not sure our coach is any better

Its kind of hard to tell if your feelings are based on affection towards Mullen, an enjoyment of feeling poorly, or just not really understanding football.

I do think you are smart enough to know that Moorhead is better than Luke. I dont think you believe Mullen was ultimately going to accomplish more than what he did and wanted to leave. I also know you havent switched to being a gator fan so Mullen isnt all that important.

Which leaves the idea that you enjoy feeling poorly about MSU. Assuming you'd like to not do that for the sake of others, there is medication. It works. I know you get all this attention for saying stupid 17ing things like this, but is this what you want?

We dont.
 

o_dawgnabit

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This thread went off the rails quickly. We are definitely a self loathing group.

I agree. I think we are the only fan base that can make fun of our rival because they suck and then quickly our fans want to bash our own team. If you think the two programs are on the same level then you are kidding yourself
 

SyonaraStanz

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I'm not saying one way or another, but I'd like to hear someone's argument of why Luke is worse than Moorhead.
 

TBone.sixpack

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Not sure. He earned some credits for his mercenary ways last Egg Bowl. Those may fade quickly. This years Egg will be interesting*
 

o_dawgnabit

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I'm not saying one way or another, but I'd like to hear someone's argument of why Luke is worse than Moorhead.

Do you ever see Luke winning more than 8 games in a season? Because I sure don’t. But I do think Moorhead can given his track record and what he did at Fordham. I know he had a couple blunders this season but I guess we were naive thinking a guy can just run through the sec in his first year of an SEC coach. OM coaching staff did everything they could to lose that game. Arkansas lost that game more than OM won it. But I will give Matt credit, he does not let his olayers quit.
 

SyonaraStanz

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Do you ever see Luke winning more than 8 games in a season? Because I sure don’t. But I do think Moorhead can given his track record and what he did at Fordham. I know he had a couple blunders this season but I guess we were naive thinking a guy can just run through the sec in his first year of an SEC coach. OM coaching staff did everything they could to lose that game. Arkansas lost that game more than OM won it. But I will give Matt credit, he does not let his olayers quit.

The jury is very much still out on Moorhead. His Auburn win is unimpressive today, and it took two questionable goal line calls, going in his favor, to win. He can earn a lot of confidence with a strong showing this weekend, or he can throw it all away by trying to slang the ball all over the field. We shall see.
 

o_dawgnabit

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The jury is very much still out on Moorhead. His Auburn win is unimpressive today, and it took two questionable goal line calls, going in his favor, to win. He can earn a lot of confidence with a strong showing this weekend, or he can throw it all away by trying to slang the ball all over the field. We shall see.

I agree that the jury is still out on him. But I’m just trying to make an argument to why I’d pick Moorhead over Luke. Moorhead has a better resume TODAY than Luke does. Heck even if you look at recruiting, JoMo has addressed our offensive woes and has gone out and gotten a couple play makers committed. Look at OM’s recruiting... I don’t see this defense getting better for a while. Of their 27 commits, the only have 11 defensive players.
 
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thatsbaseball

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Don't shoot the messenger BUT....if you look only at Moorhead's resume and leave out your emotions as a State fan you would never guess that this guy made the leap to head coach at an SEC school. We flat assed took a gamble and the jury is in fact out but Moorhead's resume is nothing to write home about.
 

Bruce Dakinson

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Moorhead appears to have hit some roadblocks being a head coach again. He had to assemble his staff and structure the program. He was given some great players, but hes also had much more to install.

Matt Luke inherited his team, his staff, etc. Now this isn't necessarily a positive, but it does afford an easier transition for Luke as being the head coach. I wouldn't call his wins a soaring success. Yes they beat a 1-5 Arkansas team in the last 2 minutes and are 1-2 injuries away from collapsing.
 

DAWG61

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Its kind of hard to tell if your feelings are based on affection towards Mullen, an enjoyment of feeling poorly, or just not really understanding football.

I do think you are smart enough to know that Moorhead is better than Luke. I dont think you believe Mullen was ultimately going to accomplish more than what he did and wanted to leave. I also know you havent switched to being a gator fan so Mullen isnt all that important.

Which leaves the idea that you enjoy feeling poorly about MSU. Assuming you'd like to not do that for the sake of others, there is medication. It works. I know you get all this attention for saying stupid 17ing things like this, but is this what you want?

We dont.

7 is finally getting attention for being a dickhead troll after it taking only 52,000 posts for anyone to notice. It really because everyone made fun of him for Foambat Alexander and he now wants all State fans to suffer with troll wrath as revenge.
 

Seinfeld

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There's also still a lot of season left to find out what we've got in Moorhead. I know that most fans, myself included, are desperate to use the Auburn game as a sign of the team turning the corner, but we now know that Auburn is pretty awful. If we wind up 7-5 or worse with another loss to OM at the end of the year, a lot of the pollyannas on this board will be changing their tune.

It's hard to really compare the two one way or another this early into Moorhead's tenure, but we'll know more by year's end.
 
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11 defensive players would be enough if they were the right ones. Unfortunately for OM their current top 7 recruits are all offense and they have no 4 star defenders.
Unfortunately for us they have the top RB and the top 2 WR from MS as well as a 4 star OL from Arkansas. All players we desperately need.
We will have to wait to see how things end up, but we have great need for 1 top RB and several top WR, OL, and CB in this class. As of now we have 0 RB, 4 OL, 2 WR, and 3 CB, none of them 4 stars.
Maybe they all pan out as all-Americans, maybe they all bust. Those of us who are not experts with access to lots of game film have no way to evaluate these recruits other than to refer to the services. I would love to see a longitudinal study of how many sub-4-star players became standouts and how many 4-star+ were busts. We all know a few individual stories, but I would like to know the overall numbers.
Right now OM has 5 4-stars with an overall average player rating of 87.44
We have 6 4-stars with an overall average player rating of 88.74.
Pretty close, so far.
For comparison, UF has 8 4-stars with an overall average player rating of 89.69 and LSU has 2 5-stars and 10 4-stars with an overall average player rating of 90.42
 
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