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kyjeff1

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Try what different? This team is just not very good. And he has tried many DIFFERENT LINEUPS so he has tried differently. You know nothing about coaching high level division I b-ball (and neither do I!) but I'd love to hear your logical things we should try. Some people just need to accept it...it's a down year. Now if Murray turns into Kemba Walker and can't miss in the NCAA (like he could not against OSU in the 2nd half), we may go futher than I am thinking as we know Ulis will ball out...but I doubt it happens.
Well, to be honest he could actually go to a zone on defense to at least try to stop straight line drives and foul trouble but I can respect Cal for sticking to his defensive beliefs.
 

KMKAT

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Cal gets paid what he deserves; he has been a savior to this program. How anyone cannot see that is not in touch with the program prior to when Cal arrived.

To me, the only vice Cal has is that he wants to play the top talent guys over guys who may jell well together or they may not. He's not benching many top talent guys or that kills his recruiting.

I do agree; Cal has made lots of adjustments during this year to get these guys headed in the uptick direction.
Oh, that vice and one more......it would be nice if we could be UConn. [cheers]
 
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Bungalow Bill

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So my name made it to KSR huh? For asking why a coach that gets paid as much as he does can take a loss to a terrible Tennessee team and people act like its no big deal? I believe we have the best of the best, in coach Cal. But obviously what he's doing isn't working this year. So why not make adjustments. At least try something different.
What the hell makes you think he isn't making adjustments? How much money he makes really seems to bother you. It was a road game loss to a team with some talent. The players have to respond positively to the coaching they're getting and the adjustments he makes for it to show on the court. You don't have a clue what's going on with this team so just quit posting your nonsense or expect to get called out with all the other morons.
 

wild mandu

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Why would Jones trash this board?

He steals content and show ideas from here every day.

Watch out, he's gonna say your message board name on his show and turn your life into a living hell!!!

In the meantime, click on this link to my website for a story you've already read from fifteen other sources.
 

Untouchables22

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I wondered when someone would point this out,it absolutely happens
I did about 10 posts ago....MJ has to learn not to bite the hand that feeds you. He can criticize portions of the fanbase all he wants. But don't trash a board that you and Drew Franklin and Tyler Thompson steal a lot of ideas and content from.
 

wldktz1

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Please my dude, go find a quote where I said Cal can't coach. I said somethings gotta change, never said we need a new coach. I said no way should we be losing to a 10-11 team at UK

If we were run out of the gym like KU was at OK St. I would probably be more concerned. However this 10-11 team got back into the game with foul shots. With out that huge advantage no way this 10-11 team beats us. They just happen to shoot FTs really well and took advantage.
 

RoyKent

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I did about 10 posts ago....MJ has to learn not to bite the hand that feeds you. He can criticize portions of the fanbase all he wants. But don't trash a board that you and Drew Franklin and Tyler Thompson steal a lot of ideas and content from.

This is laughable.... please list "a lot" of the ideas they steal from here.

Should be easy to list at least 5-10...please go ahead and do so. @UK till Death you are welcome to list them as well.
 

Blueworld_3.0

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MJ sometimes uses the most absurd examples to paint with a broad brush.
He said people were saying Cal "can't coach". I've not seen that anywhere. People are publicly questioning why he doesn't play zone or atleast try it certain situations. Others are wondering why Murray has such free-reign as far as shot selection, defense, etc. These seem like perfectly reasonable concerns, especially when this team is giving away 21 point leads to teams like sub .500 Tenn. and losing to doormats like OSU and Auburn.
Obviously Cal is an excellent coach and recruiter but, he's also very stubborn. He's said as much himself in pressers recently. But, I've yet to see anything say or make any case that he "can't coach". Hyperbole.
 

mdlUK.1

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MJ sometimes uses the most absurd examples to paint with a broad brush.
He said people were saying Cal "can't coach". I've not seen that anywhere. People are publicly questioning why he doesn't play zone or atleast try it certain situations. Others are wondering why Murray has such free-reign as far as shot selection, defense, etc. These seem like perfectly reasonable concerns, especially when this team is giving away 21 point leads to teams like sub .500 Tenn. and losing to doormats like OSU and Auburn.
Obviously Cal is an excellent coach and recruiter but, he's also very stubborn. He's said as much himself in pressers recently. But, I've yet to see anything say or make any case that he "can't coach". Hyperbole.
Then you haven't looked very hard. Hell, the dipshit he mention, zaytovencat, said Cal was a great recruiter but only a C as a coach. There have been several of those types of moronic posts.
 

Ugoff

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His objective today was obviously to tamp down negativity around the basketball program. However trashing a message board with enough members to fill Rupp Arena because of 2 or 3 over the top posts, all of which were vigorously challenged, is probably not the best approach.
 

mdlUK.1

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His objective today was obviously to tamp down negativity around the basketball program. However trashing a message board with enough members to fill Rupp Arena because of 2 or 3 over the top posts, all of which were vigorously challenged, is probably not the best approach.
I thought it was pretty funny and those posters needed to be ridiculed.
 

.S&C.

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Ever since maggard stopped his recruiting board insider info has all but dried up on KSR.
 
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Randy Bob

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Anybody who thank Cal cannot coach need to look at his record, cannot hit a home run every yr and be 38 and 1, I thank the reason this team is not doing as well, it might have been over rated, but it was over rated by all the experts, heck they had Ska as a lottery pick , so it just one of those yrs..
 
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Can Cal coach ………… Yes
Is Cal stubborn and sometimes it might cost us …………. Yes
Is Cal responsible for some players entitlement, leading to playing time being given to some when it's questionable ……… Maybe
Just my 50 cent opinion
 

.S&C.

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Cal can obviously coach. I think the point some make is he's not the same floor coach he used to be, in part because he's got so many athletes now and his philosophy Changed. He's more of a "lett'em play" coach than a floor general now.

How this all gets conflated beyond the point is due in large part to excessive pumping. It is what is it.
 

Hoskins91_rivals

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Well, to be honest he could actually go to a zone on defense to at least try to stop straight line drives and foul trouble but I can respect Cal for sticking to his defensive beliefs.
I'd say it's too late for that. Unless he just decided we are primarily going to be a zone team at the beginning of the year, it's not smart to try to be effective at multiple defenses when you only have a season.
 

Hoskins91_rivals

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Cal can obviously coach. I think the point some make is he's not the same floor coach he used to be, in part because he's got so many athletes now and his philosophy Changed. He's more of a "lett'em play" coach than a floor general now.

How this all gets conflated beyond the point is due in large part to excessive pumping. It is what is it.
Or it's simply because people don't know what they are talking about. I don't mind criticism, but come with something legitimate. Complaining about shooting is idiotic. If anything this team's problem is we don't have enough big strong athletes.
 
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Zipp is a woman?

It is now...

 

Mike-D

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Some of these people should get called out. I think it's hilarious. How Matt didn't mention Cut, I'll never know.

I think it's fine to criticize Cal. But the people mentioned, that's all they ever do. You never see them in a positive thread. They attack like wild animals anytime a negative thread about Coach is started. It's old.
 

MattJones

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I have read some of the thread on here about my comments on the show today reading posts from here criticizing Calipari. My reasoning for do it is very simple...I find criticisms of Calipari's time at Kentucky bizarrely stupid...as I made clear on the show, every coach is susceptible for criticism of a particular decision or coaching move, but those who then make grand pronouncements (which is what I was mocking today) are in my view, slightly insane. Many who responded on the thread seem to have made their opinion based on not hearing the show, but instead what people say about what I said (which I think happens often). But my guess is few would quibble too much with my actual comments.

As for talking about this board, I came from the message board community. As long time UK message board fans can attest, my writing on message boards goes back to the late 90s and was the springboard for my UK work. When the blog started in 2005, the message boards without question helped me launch it and I have a soft spot in my heart for them. Cats Illustrated (and its previous incarnations) has always been a great site and Justin/TJ and everyone else currently do a very good job. However, I do think message boards foster some of the worst of UK fandom. Like with everything else, 95% of the fans on here are great and even when going overboard, mean well and are what makes BBN excellent. But the 5% who are not get a chance to anonymously (my biggest problem with the whole thing) make ridiculous statements that garner attention (as the worst comments in life always do) and make our fan base look bad. That has always been my problem with them even when I was on them all the time back in the day. But every forum has weaknesses (including blogs), and that is just the one for message boards.

I don't read these message boards as much as I used to (except GYERO), but I do check in. While this is still the most popular one, the message board framework (outside of HOB) isn't as popular because of Twitter, Facebook, KSR, etc. This used to be the only place to find out about UK and it isn't anymore. But the fan interaction part is still very valuable to me as a radio host, as it allows me to see what a certain segment of the UK fan base thinks. Message board commenters tend to be older than Twitter and also have more football diehards on it. Thus it is valuable for me as a radio host to hear their point of views. Rather than being angry about it, or saying I am "stealing" from it, it should be a compliment. The reality is there is only so much news...Drew and Tyler never visit here but they will have the same stories as here because...well because we are all talking about the same things. But for me, reading your views (especially when it is about how much a minority of you hate me and think I should be run out of town) is entertaining and helps the show.

So that's that....killing time at the station and thought I would write.
 
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My main problem is how Jones brings light to this board ONLY through the agenda posters and imposters.

Big difference in how Scott Van Pelt addressed this board and how Jones does.
 

Mike-D

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My main problem is how Jones brings light to this board ONLY through the agenda posters and imposters.

Big difference in how Scott Van Pelt addressed this board and how Jones does.

He just did that in a thread, man.
 

BurpinTurpin_rivals209459

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I don't mind when people criticize different aspects of the team or Cal's coaching- that's kind of what message boards are for. But I do mind when the criticism is CONSTANT. There were even a few people criticizing Cal and the team the night we won the National Friggin' Championship.

And while he's not perfect, to say Cal isn't a great coach is damned idiotic. Just stupid. I can't help but wonder what they were doing during the Tubby and Gilldrunkspie years. Don't they remember what it was like?
 

jrpross_rivals

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95% of the fans on here are great and even when going overboard, mean well and are what makes BBN excellent. But the 5% who are not get a chance to anonymously (my biggest problem with the whole thing) make ridiculous statements that garner attention (as the worst comments in life always do) and make our fan base look bad.

Truer words have not been spoken. These are the ones who make fans of other teams hate uk fans. And not only are they the dumbest among us, they are usually the loudest, making them seem like there and even larger part of me really are.
 

The_Godfather_rivals

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Matt,

The only thing I wonder is if I had the platform that you do, would I bring any attention to these people? I think most people would never even be aware of these ridiculous opinions if you didn't mention it on air.

I honestly get more irritated with the morons I see on Twitter and Facebook who state stupidity such as "Cal can't coach!".
 
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My only problem is that you paint our board on your show in light of the CRAZY 5% instead of the DIE HARD 95%.

IMHO, our board does a great job of calling out the imposters and agenda driven posters.

Cal is the greatest coach in the game today! We all know that and the ones that don't are called out NUMEROUS times daily!
 
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