Well... he did state "opinion". Even also stated "with no inside info".
Read my post again, this time with an eye roll from my end.
Well... he did state "opinion". Even also stated "with no inside info".
Sounds promising. Not a lot of concrete info yet but I’m grabbing onto any strand of hope I can find.
I know where you're coming from, but I will disagree in this case, depending on the details.
If he's getting 2nd round money and a G-League contract, he might be much better off sticking it out in Lexington until he can get things straightened out.
If he's getting first round money and care from NBA team doctors, by all means. Take the money and run. (I know, I know).
I disagree, or actually not necessarily disagree entirely, but I think there's other options he should consider.
Let's not just dismiss the fact that the vast majority of players are not going to return to college. They'll have kids, families, responsibilities. Also, to dismiss the fact that a lot of these guys are young, immature, and uneducated, not to mention are surrounded by people with their hand out, isn't the most honest assessment. Most of these guys have no clue how to handle a couple hundred thousand dollars. It's gone as soon as it comes in with some.
If it's big money, guaranteed, sure, I can go along with that. It it's iffy, I think there's nothing wrong with being open to getting as close to that degree as you can for safety. If he can make half a million overseas tomorrow, barring injury, he could probably do it in a few years as well.
With Vanderbilt it's a tough call, because of his conditions. But I just hate how people with the security of a college degree and good jobs goes about telling others to skip it and chase greed. I know that's not what you're doing, but in a general sense it happens a lot. There is nothing more important than an education. It's not just about the degree.
For sure.That's all in play for sure. But those things are still in play for his life if he ends up getting hurt again and never making a dime. If I have that injury history already, I'm taking my 300k or whatever I can get and figuring the rest out later.
If I'm going to be healthy, I'll be healthy and earn that second contract. But if im destined to be hurt, I want something, anything, as a cushion before I go finish my degree.
Did you apologize to the OP ? You were one of the ones saying we were being trolled.The one that deserves the apology is Richards. Looks like we’re going to have to dig him out of the trash some of our “fans” buried him under.
This exactly.Vanderbilt had a stress fracture in his left foot the summer after his junior season and another injury to the left foot before his senior season.
He injured his right foot at the end of the Jordan Brand game and that's what he has been dealing with all season.
The kid has bad feet. Had them before he got here. Has them now. If he's going to get paid to play basketball, doing so as soon as possible, at whatever level will pay him, is the move. He has a UK degree whenever he wants it. Those feet can't take any more injuries for free.
Exactly!! Going to college gave me a broader perspective on life and the world around me. My emotional intelligence raised higher than my IQ but building lasting relationships that challenge you to be a better person every day is what its all about. By being able to see the world through a lense other than basketball, these players can find a passion they can pursue after basketball that will give them the sense of accomplishment it takes to lead a happy, accomplishing life. Once you find a deep appreciation for knowledge and your position in the world, other avenues for money open up. Just like Kobe focusing on business and winning an Oscar after retiring from basketball or Poythress graduating with a very challenging accounting degree (you know he's investing his money towards everlasting wealth). I know Kobe didn't go to college but I have no doubt that he broadens his mind and perspectives By doing his own individual studying about the world and his position in it. Very well said @morgousky. It's hard to articulate these sorts of things that go through my head without writing a book lol. Knowledge truly is power.I disagree, or actually not necessarily disagree entirely, but I think there's other options he should consider.
Let's not just dismiss the fact that the vast majority of players are not going to return to college. They'll have kids, families, responsibilities. Also, to dismiss the fact that a lot of these guys are young, immature, and uneducated, not to mention are surrounded by people with their hand out, isn't the most honest assessment. Most of these guys have no clue how to handle a couple hundred thousand dollars. It's gone as soon as it comes in with some.
If it's big money, guaranteed, sure, I can go along with that. It it's iffy, I think there's nothing wrong with being open to getting as close to that degree as you can for safety. If he can make half a million overseas tomorrow, barring injury, he could probably do it in a few years as well.
With Vanderbilt it's a tough call, because of his conditions. But I just hate how people with the security of a college degree and good jobs goes about telling others to skip it and chase greed. I know that's not what you're doing, but in a general sense it happens a lot. There is nothing more important than an education. It's not just about the degree.
Right. All the tourney games were going to be played in the O Dome.
On the road on Senior Night with Vanderbilt in foul trouble. Not the best way to prove your point.
I think anyone who watched the Arkansas game, for instance, knew this team could at least make some noise if healthy.
Read my post again, this time with an eye roll from my end.
Exactly!! Going to college gave me a broader perspective on life and the world around me. My emotional intelligence raised higher than my IQ but building lasting relationships that challenge you to be a better person every day is what its all about. By being able to see the world through a lense other than basketball, these players can find a passion they can pursue after basketball that will give them the sense of accomplishment it takes to lead a happy, accomplishing life. Once you find a deep appreciation for knowledge and your position in the world, other avenues for money open up. Just like Kobe focusing on business and winning an Oscar after retiring from basketball or Poythress graduating with a very challenging accounting degree (you know he's investing his money towards everlasting wealth). I know Kobe didn't go to college but I have no doubt that he broadens his mind and perspectives By doing his own individual studying about the world and his position in it. Very well said @morgousky. It's hard to articulate these sorts of things that go through my head without writing a book lol. Knowledge truly is power.
That is sad. Some people only see the money as the goal of success when in reality, money does not provide you with the spiritual sense of fulfillment that you need by tying your life to goals and fulfilling those goals to give your life a sense of meaning through your accomplishments. The same as Antwoine Walker losing all of his money through gambling and letting his "latcher-ons" take him for a ride. That all worked out for the best though because I love listening to Walker on the SEC Network/calling games. Gives me a nice ray of basketball enjoyment in a cloud of media darkness filled with former dookies/ACC slurppers.Hey man, when I finally realized I wasnt going to be drafted, the fact that I discovered a new passion during college growth helped me. I know a guy that played baseball for Kentucky in the mid 2,000's that left early and got hurt, didn't take his education seriously and without baseball he's lost. Has actually turned into an alcoholic and is unemployed and golfs all day. His wife Is about to leave him.
I've lived this. I know better than to chase greed and devalue the idea of education.
That is sad. Some people only see the money as the goal of success when in reality, money does not provide you with the spiritual sense of fulfillment that you need by tying your life to goals and fulfilling those goals to give your life a sense of meaning through your accomplishments. The same as Antwoine Walker losing all of his money through gambling and letting his "latcher-ons" take him for a ride. That all worked out for the best though because I love listening to Walker on the SEC Network/calling games. Gives me a nice ray of basketball enjoyment in a cloud of media darkness filled with former dookies/ACC slurppers.
You speak my language man. I asked for your input on a thread I created while you were on a forced hiatus. It's called "let's draft a suitable compensation plan". Check it out if you ever get time. I'd love to get your input on it since we generally agree on most everything (from bball to politics lol). It address some of what you just said about athletes not really being students.It is very sad. He was a good one, I'm not going to say his name for obvious reasons, but a few years ago he was driving drunk actually ran his car into someone's house. He's just lost, and unwilling to go back to school. Why would he? When you're an athlete you don't even know how to be a regular student. You've never done it. Lol.
And that's another aspect of this that people don't think about unless you were an athlete. I've been both a regular student and an athlete. Let me tell you guys something, athletes are almost given grades (UNC I know). But really, even at U.K., the standards for athletes and regular students is nowhere near the same. These guys have a chance to get a degee with free tutoring, laid out schedules, and coaches who spoon feed your routines. The professors know who is an athlete and most accommodate it.
To simply give that up for some instant money that you might not even know how to handle is sad to me.
I get it, money is money. And I'm not in the position to be handed 3 million dollars tomorrow, but I think the culture lately Ian dangerous and sets a bad tone. Some people have taken Cals recruiting pitches to heart, and I'm not a fan of some of this.
It's his other footJones tweeting that it's not ankle, or previously injured foot and it's not as bad as we feared.
We had no fight in that game until we were down 23pts..... if you dont think that was a major red flag ..... you'll come to see it as such when the season is finally over...
I allowed that 4 game winning streak to give a glimmer of hope back.... but that UF game crushed it all again... This team just cant mentally stay focused for enough games in a row to make some real noise.
You speak my language man. I asked for your input on a thread I created while you were on a forced hiatus. It's called "let's draft a suitable compensation plan". Check it out if you ever get time. I'd love to get your input on it since we generally agree on most everything (from bball to politics lol). It address some of what you just said about athletes not really being students.
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/lets-draft-a-suitable-compensation-plan.259273/Awesome I'd love to read it. Link maybe? I've got 3 screens up and im bidding on routes (my new business). Hard to dig plus go back and forth.
Some of you guys have far better answers than me, I just have the feel when I hear something I don't like.
Encouraging news.Vanderbilt's Dad speaks on the injury -
“As far as we know it’s just day to day,” said Robert Vanderbilt. “We haven’t heard that it’s anything serious right now, no. Just day to day.”
http://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article203965334.html
I didn't know this. I assume he's done for the season? If so, that is a MAJOR hit to them. Basically no interior presence to speak of if he goes down for the season.We're not the only ones going through things. Kansas just lost Azubuike to an MCL sprain.
I just saw it scroll across espn and on twitter someone said he's out the whole big 12 tournament and they'll reevaluate the injury on Sunday.I didn't know this. I assume he's done for the season? If so, that is a MAJOR hit to them. Basically no interior presence to speak of if he goes down for the season.
Just saw that too. I have West Virginia winning the Big 12 tourney anyways. I'm sure he'll be ready for the NCAA if it's only a grade one.I just saw it scroll across espn and on twitter someone said he's out the whole big 12 tournament and they'll reevaluate the injury on Sunday.
Yes this time is the other footI thought the foot injury this season was the “other foot”??? So his Hs foot injury was the same one he injured this year?? Lots of misinformation surrounding him I believe
I just saw it scroll across espn and on twitter someone said he's out the whole big 12 tournament and they'll reevaluate the injury on Sunday.
Drinking beer and playing golf all day. Free to hook up with other women. Isn't that what we are all aspiring to do?H Has actually turned into an alcoholic and is unemployed and golfs all day. His wife Is about to leave him.
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Yes. Everyone on this board that attacked the original poster needs to apologize to him. Come on people fess up and apologize.Yall owe the original poster an apology.