In 2 years, he has Iowa State about to crack the top 15 with 2 wins this year against top 5 schools (Oklahoma, TCU). Let that sink in. Iowa State. The perennial doormat of the Big 12 with an alltime 0-58 record against top 5 schools in their history entering the 2017 season. Now 2-0 this year against top 5 schools. Compare this to Dana’s 7 years. I don’t want to hear any more excuses.
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Sure you could replace Dana with a coach capable of competing for championships. Nehlen and Rich Rod were both that.
But good coaches are hard to find. It is more likely that the next coach will be the same as Dana or worse.
I would like to see WVU use the football program as a revenue generator to build up the basketball facilities including player housing.
But good coaches are hard to find. It is more likely that the next coach will be the same as Dana or worse.
I would like to see WVU use the football program as a revenue generator to build up the basketball facilities including player housing.
They are having a good year this year......its their 1 in 10 -15 year cycle! They won't remain and will be back in the cellar next year
Why compare him with Holgy? Purely emotional and ridiculous. Maybe he happens to be the next Urban Meyer. Time will tell. What’s happened at ISU is amazing. But your argument has to apply at like 50 of the 65 P5 jobs. Just give the ISU coach credit.
I am giving credit. And I’m proving these excuses of “poor little helpless WVU” aren’t true. We are the winningest school ever to have not won a NC. We aren’t Alcorn State. We are WVU. A P5 school. Act like it.
OMG this is such a loser mentality response and conceding we will never or don't deserve better. Honestly you, me and everyone else shouldn't worry about finding a capable coach, not our job. Oliver Luck went out and found a hot shot coordinator who struggled tremendously with clock management and field position decisions for a very long time and you are ok with that. Just keep your head buried in the sand...
College football is 99% recruiting! Not sure why people don't get that! Not a shocker that teams who consistently have top 10 classes are usually in the CFP talk at the end of the year! Once in a while teams get lucky with mediocre recruiting and the right mixture/chemistry of players.....example Iowa State this year!
We need to find a way to get top notch talent into Morgantown....offensive and defensive lineman and we will win big games
We need to find a way to get top notch talent into Morgantown....offensive and defensive lineman and we will win big games
I get it but not all P5 program are on equal footing. Again WVU is a Top 30 program. We should remember that. Being a consistent top 12 program is not realistic. WVU isn’t Penn State or Ohio State.
Too many fans are unrealistic we do not recruit well enough to consistently be a top 10 team
This has to be fake news. Didn't they beat Oklahoma State in 2011 to knock them out of the championship game? Spawning the LSU vs Bama rematch.
We aren't poor, little helpless WVU. We are a good, not great program. Unfortunately for us, every other school in the Big 12 (minus Kansas) puts the same amount of resources, or more, into their football programs and have a strong commitment to winning.
This wasn't the case back in the day when our conference remembers DGAF about football (Cuse, UConn, Pitt, Rutgers, Cincy, etc.).
We have to do something, and maybe getting rid of Dana is the correct move. But I am VERY nervous about Lyons doing something he's never done before - hire a HC in football.
At least we are relevant now and usually ranked around the top 25 under DH. I DO NOT want to turn into Maryland or Pitt, who are in a constant state of sucking.
TCU 25-20 big12 record
WVU 22-23 big12 record
Not much of a difference, and wouldn't everyone say TCU has a great coach and we dont??
WVU 22-23 big12 record
Not much of a difference, and wouldn't everyone say TCU has a great coach and we dont??
So all the people wanting to run Holgerson out of town maybe TCU should want Patterson gone as well????
Look at Patterson's overall body of work and bowl game record vs Dana's body of work and his bowl game record..
Lmk which is the better coach.
Matt Campbell is using another coaches players. Let me know how he does when the 47 players graduate at season end.
Also...Florida is looking
Matt Campbell, Iowa State: Another young coach whose star is rising quickly. Campbell came to Iowa State from Toledo last year, taking over one of the most challenging Power Five jobs in the country. After a 3-9 start in 2016, the Cyclones are now 6-2 in 2016 with a pair of wins over top five teams in Oklahoma and Iowa State.
If there's a problem, it's that Campbell, a native of Ohio, has spent his entire coaching career in the midwest. He's not as familiar with the SEC or recruiting in the southeast as other candidates.
so your point is, we should settle for Dana because he’s not good enough to leave?
I'm not settling for anything, I have zero influence on our head coaching situation.
If you have the ability to shake things up, by all means do so.
Difference is that West Virginia was a consistent winner before Holgersen
Patterson inherited a team from Franchione and took it to another level.
Prior to 1997 TCU for 50 years was nothing to be proud of and this is not even mentioning that Patterson was one of the coaches who brought TCU back from the relegation to the SWC
If the Big XII ever falls apart WVU will know what TCU felt like because WVU will be like Rice, SMU or TCU in that they will be left behind
There you go trying to confuse the issue. Attempting to compare won/loss records over the same period of time, in the same conference.
Football sucks and most people don’t give a crap. I don’t give a crap. WVU needs to focus on improving the basketball program.
Football generates a lot more revenue than basketball
A great basketball program can generate the same revenue as an average football program
Agree. Football will generate plenty of revenue with Dana and the trend of his results.
But the that revenue should be put back into programs that are capable of competing for the big time
Aside from a few message board users, fans don’t care about wins and losses in football
That is not true
Go to Gainesville or Knoxville
After UGA blew out Tennessee the AD in Tennessee had his number put all over the internet and woke up Sunday morning with over 1000 texts begging him to fire the coach
A lot of fanbases winning and losing in a college football game defines their life
Football is serious for the South. Winning and losing is not a big deal in WV.
So you would say West Virginia has a Big East mindset then.
Football is not just serious in the South. Go a little North of Morgantown and you will find Ohio State and Penn State.
Both fanbases take football as serious as anywhere else
That was prior to this season. As of today, it's now 29-21 (.580) for TCU and 25-25 (.500) for WVU. If we'd gotten a Big 12 co-championship out of our first 50 games in the conference as TCU did and were once again a front-runner this year, Holgorsen would be getting the benefit of the doubt.
Plus you are comparing your football program to TCU.
No offense to TCU but they are a small private Christian university that has a limited fanbase and resources.
What you see right now is as good as TCU will ever be and TCU understands that.
All private schools in Texas have the same issue.
Some will cheat like SMU to win more than they should but they all know that for an extended period meaning for a 20 year period they will never be better than the University of Texas.
Actually, we have a very young team with a lot of depth. Maybe we won't be as good, but we won't be in the cellar.
WVU is STILL UNDEFEATED vs Matt Campbell's Iowa State Cyclones.
I just wanted to say that since a week ago he was perceived to be a greater coach than Nick Saban.
Btw was the officiating as bad on tv as it was in the stadium? There was a side judge that was horrible on PI calls and the umpire laid a great block on David Long Jr that let Iowa State convert on a key 3rd down
I just wanted to say that since a week ago he was perceived to be a greater coach than Nick Saban.
Btw was the officiating as bad on tv as it was in the stadium? There was a side judge that was horrible on PI calls and the umpire laid a great block on David Long Jr that let Iowa State convert on a key 3rd down
He is a very good coach......what he's accomplished with a very average ISU team is unbelievable. He's got more top 5 wins in one year than our coach has in his career......right?
How are they very average? They look pretty good to me. A lot of senior leadership on both offense and defense.
Their talent level isn't the greatest.......probably on par with ours.......Their QB couldn't even get snaps at a JUCO.....and yet he has led them to TWO top 5 wins........