Pretty surprised by this one. Would've thought Doc and Armon Gates wouldve been the ones to go...
Matt A fired
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Makes me wonder if his “illness” from earlier in the year played a role. Clearly he was being looked at for recruiting violations during that time.
Reason for firing him might be twofold: show the fans we’re trying to do something to fix the program and avoid any trouble with the NCAA later.
Reason for firing him might be twofold: show the fans we’re trying to do something to fix the program and avoid any trouble with the NCAA later.
Was he fired or did he leave?
The statement reads mutually agreed to post ways
may have been fired given the talk of NCAA violations recently or
he may have decided to leave on his own to salvage some of his reputation if he doesn’t see this getting turned around
The statement reads mutually agreed to post ways
may have been fired given the talk of NCAA violations recently or
he may have decided to leave on his own to salvage some of his reputation if he doesn’t see this getting turned around
I wonder how many players/recruits will bail, given that Matt recruited our entire roster and recruiting class. Not that any of them would be really huge losses, but still...if Fred has to scrape together another entirely new roster at the last minute, next year is going to be another rough season.
Doc will be allowed to walk away or transition again to a behind the scenes position. Officially he’s not in a coaching role I believe.
Might be enough dirt with MA that Trev/FH cut him loose. Does Fred bring Prohm onboard?
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Doc is already in a behind-the-scenes position. I'm not sure why Fred would fire him, he gets to have a veteran former head coach on the bench without having to use a coaching position. If Doc leaves, it will be on his own because he wants to coach again.
Terry Pettit loves this university about as much as any human being I have met in my life.
Yeah he seems to really like to take some shots at times. Whatever I guess. Just seems odd.
What did he mean by it? Not sure if this is him saying this is a good thing or a bad thing…
Reported that players like Nate...don't expect him to go anywhere. Doc is not in a coaching role...don't know why Fred would ask him to leave; he is valuable from an administrative standpoint.
Gate's brother is up for some jobs...could be he joins him somewhere? Gates is the only minority on the staff....and that is important.
The director of operations worked with Matt at St. Johns....the Italian guy. Will be interesting to see what happens there.
Please replace Fuzzy as player development ( babysitter). I hope the players like him...because he is annoying when he broadcasts.
Gate's brother is up for some jobs...could be he joins him somewhere? Gates is the only minority on the staff....and that is important.
The director of operations worked with Matt at St. Johns....the Italian guy. Will be interesting to see what happens there.
Please replace Fuzzy as player development ( babysitter). I hope the players like him...because he is annoying when he broadcasts.
I know it's a long shot but anyone with some clarity on this? Was Matt A. an adidas liaison of some sort?
well, in BB, you really have 10 guys, not 85. Matt was the lead recruiter. One person can do that. They all recruiting, but Matt did the heavy lifting. Im not sure how much he actually coached.
I think Nate, Armon and Fred did most of the coaching.
Nate was brought in to replace Bobby Lutz as the advisor to Fred....but then switched roles with Doc.
And if you read all of these posts and can make sense of them, you are a genius!
What has happened is done and what will happen is out our control. Fred is clearly on a very hot seat, he has no choice but to get a lot of things right one last time.
I am not sure recruiting violations, IF THEY INDEED DID HAPPEN (does anyone have proof of them as Trev denied the NCAA was investigating) or some such statement. Either way, a coach leaving doesn't absolve anyone especially the program and head coach who is ultimately responsible for everything.
Towards the end of the year I was watching a game and Doc was clearly coaching on the bench. If his job was strictly administrative, didn't think that was allowed. He may have a different role than we know.
The mutual departure accomplishes several things - no payment is owed by the school, he is given a good recommendation with no fault associated. The fact the guy was with Fred at Iowa State and the Timberwolves indicates a tight friendship. More rumors to follow, facts may be hard to come by.
What has happened is done and what will happen is out our control. Fred is clearly on a very hot seat, he has no choice but to get a lot of things right one last time.
I am not sure recruiting violations, IF THEY INDEED DID HAPPEN (does anyone have proof of them as Trev denied the NCAA was investigating) or some such statement. Either way, a coach leaving doesn't absolve anyone especially the program and head coach who is ultimately responsible for everything.
Towards the end of the year I was watching a game and Doc was clearly coaching on the bench. If his job was strictly administrative, didn't think that was allowed. He may have a different role than we know.
The mutual departure accomplishes several things - no payment is owed by the school, he is given a good recommendation with no fault associated. The fact the guy was with Fred at Iowa State and the Timberwolves indicates a tight friendship. More rumors to follow, facts may be hard to come by.
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Doc can coach during the game, any staff member can, just not on the practice court. Though NCAA did pass a rule this year that someone in an administrative role can step on the practice court if a full-time coach is out for some reason. So when Matt was out, Doc was able to coach in practice.
More than?
It's college basketball, man. The bag man is the most important guy on the staff.
So there can be unlimited coaches? Football doesn't allow that, an analyst can't coach on the field, but an office guy can? I am still confused.
But I see it is well established that he WAS a bag man. Well, if that's the case, someone didn't get their money's worth so that could be reason for leaving.
There CANNOT be unlimited coaches. There may be 3 assistants who may coach during games. Doc was allowed to coach when Matt was out.So there can be unlimited coaches? Football doesn't allow that, an analyst can't coach on the field, but an office guy can? I am still confused.
But I see it is well established that he WAS a bag man. Well, if that's the case, someone didn't get their money's worth so that could be reason for leaving.
I believe NCAA allows one volunteer coach and one student coach...unsure of those rules.
If Doc was coaching at the end of the year when there were already 3 asst coaches....we were in violation.
I don't care at this point, they're all garbage. Get to an NCAA tournament game.
There's obviously a new pattern under Trev. If you have a losing record you have to shake up your staff to correct that situation in order to keep from getting fired.
With basketball...I think the recruiting is an issue. Sure, brought in some talent. But a good fit? And its more than just the coaches...Fred gotta improve his ability to make changes in-game....and get a coach to improve the D.
