Mathis NIL

[king_kong_]

What can prevent transfer player with half million or more in the bank to "retire" from college football the day before FBS playoff game?

It's practically inevitable (and probably more likely) - a million dollar QB/WR/DE or other key plyer is going to refuse to suit up because he disagrees with the medical staff about his injury status.

Also inevitable - an NIL sponsor will get news that an athlete representing their brand was arrested in a bar room brawl, or drug bust, or theft, or some indecent public incident.

Not to mention the huge NIL deals for players who will underperform expectations

There is a lot to be sorted out in this wild unregulated NIL business but I believe the boosters/sponsors are going to learn some valuable lessons fairly soon.

this literally just happened last year with the QB who left ohiost for texas. kid had a $1M deal, never took a snap and left for greener pastures.

no need to worry, though, iowa fan. this is yet another aspect of college football - right up there with integration & winning national titles - that you will not need to worry about participating in.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

Pure SLEAZE.

I wonder if such obvious SLEAZE will slow this board down on hurling mud at other Big Ten teams.

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

What is the ROInfor the boosters throwing all this cash at players? Is the team winning the return on investment? I don’t see how its a good business deal for any business owner to throw all this money at specific players. Unless they’re going to start announcing during the game, “that’s another touchdown pass by Casey Thompson, brought to you by Bob’s Chevrolet”, or something like that

It's a mistake to think many businesses or boosters are actually considering ROI on these deals. How many boosters/businesses cheating in the "old" days in the $EC were thinking about ROI when they couldn't even make their "investments" public?

 

[king_kong_]

Pure SLEAZE.

I wonder such obvious SLEAZE will slow this board down on hurling mud at other Big Ten teams.

the largest NIL deal at your trashbag, never-won-anything school thus far went to a wrassler

I'm not surprised a greased up dude going at other greased up dudes is the thing that's most moved the needle (pun intended) with your ilk

 

[king_kong_]

It's a mistake to think many businesses or boosters are actually considering ROI on these deals. How many boosters/businesses cheating in the "old" days in the $EC were thinking about ROI when they couldn't even make their "investments" public?

thank you.

I am not surprised low output B1G fan brains like @Muskyhunter16's are unable to grasp this exceedingly simple concept.

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

I agree it is time that the players get a share of all the money that is being thrown around. Not sure how I feel about everyone cutting their own deal as it could impact team dynamics (but that's also prevalent on pro sports teams as well).

I did hear an interesting discussion this morning that I had not really thought about. For these players that are getting big money deals, how will that change the "criticism" that may be warranted when they play poorly. Mike Gundy can no longer say, " leave the kids alone...come after me...I'm a man!" If kids want to get paid (and treated like adults) they will have to take the bad with the good. They are going to lose some protection that has heretofore been in place. "Hey Adrian (or Casey), you threw three picks today. Do you think your NIL sponsors are getting their money's worth?"

Honestly I don't think this changes the general fan pressure at all. Fans always have been very vocal about criticizing players and will continue to do so IMO. Now there might be some pressure from the individuals/businesses putting up the NIL dollars but that criticism will be private.

 

[MuskyHawk16]

You really don't understand rich football boosters. They like winning, they like whooping it up on Saturday and they like everyone kissing their *** like they're the king of Egypt. What was T. Boone Pickens' ROI? Some people just have more money than they know what to do with and they have a Jerry Jones complex.

That’s exactly my point. There are only so many T. Boones and Phil Knights out there. The normal teams without that one or two Sugar Daddy alumni with billions who also happen to really care about their schools football teams simply won’t have the funds to compete, at all really. Your texas schools, a few in the SEC, Oregon, O$U, Michigan, Notre Dame and maybe Stanford if any of those dorks actually start to care about sports would absolutely dominate the recruiting and transfer portal ad they simply have never ending cash pockets

 

[PCastro]

Can't outbid Texas IF they really want somebody. The question is whether they would rather use the money for somebody else. It's like any auction, just how bad do you want something vs. an alternative choice you might have.

The winner in this process of course is the player who can evaluate competing bids.

Least we drove the price up…..

 

[king_kong_]

That’s exactly my point. There are only so many T. Boones and Phil Knights out there. The normal teams without that one or two Sugar Daddy alumni with billions who also happen to really care about their schools football teams simply won’t have the funds to compete, at all really. Your texas schools, a few in the SEC, Oregon, O$U, Michigan, Notre Dame and maybe Stanford if any of those dorks actually start to care about sports would absolutely dominate the recruiting and transfer portal ad they simply have never ending cash pockets

there is a lot more money out there than you know about

clearly

 

[steinek11]

That’s exactly my point. There are only so many T. Boones and Phil Knights out there. The normal teams without that one or two Sugar Daddy alumni with billions who also happen to really care about their schools football teams simply won’t have the funds to compete, at all really. Your texas schools, a few in the SEC, Oregon, O$U, Michigan, Notre Dame and maybe Stanford if any of those dorks actually start to care about sports would absolutely dominate the recruiting and transfer portal ad they simply have never ending cash pockets

There are a lot more out there than you think. A good NIL budget is probably between one and two million for most schools.

Oregon should do really well because Phil Knight is not afraid to spend money. Michigan state has a committed billionaire. Texas and A&m are obviously very rich. For these schools to build war chests of 10 million plus per year would not be unusual.

QBs will get paid on potential. But I think other players have to prove it first. Then their old school gets to reevaluate or risk losing them to a higher bidder.

 

[Hugo_Stiglitz7]

Yep. It is a process long in the making. Big TV money and conference greed has bred this for a long time now, and it was only right for the players to ask for their fair share of the loot. Still, I hate it and I think when the chickens come home to roost we are going to see about 40 or 50 "super schools" form their own league. Those will be the schools with the deepest pockets. If we think coach's salaries have gotten out of hand, just wait until the next "sure thing" five star QB recruit gets offered five million to come play. Can Nebraska keep up with that kind of money?

At that point, how much interest will which would essentially be a smallish, semi-pro league generate for attendance and TV? Will fans continue to support that?

I'm guessing no.

Might be time to adopt a FCS team to root for or find a new Fall Saturday hobby.

 

[stevetaylor9]

Doesn't there have to be a market with alternatives for a kid to make that type of demand? I make good money but I'm replaceable so I don't go to my boss and demand that he double my salary. He'd say "bye." I guess it all goes back to the question of whether guys understand where they are as a player. If every role player on a team wants star money then we're well and truly effed. Some kids need to be thankful they're getting a free education and a little extra cash that past generations never got.

I think Rodgers will set the market for those guys. If I am a high contributor at Neb or other school - I am in the portal to hear offers and leverage those to get a deal at my current school. For the d lineman I mentioned I would expect Neb to at minimum match what Rodgers may get.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Old people to youngsters: "If you work hard you can accomplish anything and have a great life!"

Old people to youngsters playing football: "You don't need all that money, just play for the love of the game"

 

[Schoeny10]

Let's let people walk for better deals elsewhere this season and save up our money for a few seasons.

Then in 2024, we'll buy a whole new starting lineup and take CFB by storm.

 

[mgbreeze]

I think Rodgers will set the market for those guys. If I am a high contributor at Neb or other school - I am in the portal to hear offers and leverage those to get a deal at my current school. For the d lineman I mentioned I would expect Neb to at minimum match what Rodgers may get.

You make a good point, from a fan's perspective we're critical about our players and probably see a lot of them as not in demand in the portal market. But the guys you listed probably would find a good home easy even though they haven't set the world on fire here.

 

[WHCSC]

Yep. It is a process long in the making. Big TV money and conference greed has bred this for a long time now, and it was only right for the players to ask for their fair share of the loot. Still, I hate it and I think when the chickens come home to roost we are going to see about 40 or 50 "super schools" form their own league. Those will be the schools with the deepest pockets. If we think coach's salaries have gotten out of hand, just wait until the next "sure thing" five star QB recruit gets offered five million to come play. Can Nebraska keep up with that kind of money?

I wonder what that Manning kids offers look like

 

[steinek11]

Old people to youngsters: "If you work hard you can accomplish anything and have a great life!"

Old people to youngsters playing football: "You don't need all that money, just play for the love of the game"

Nah, I think everybody knows those kids were bringing in crazy money to member institutes and the NCAA and deserved a slice. It just spun out of control due to their greed and inaction. Good luck getting that genie back in the bottle

 

[SuperBigFan]

Nah, I think everybody knows those kids were bringing in crazy money to member institutes and the NCAA and deserved a slice. It just spun out of control due to their greed and inaction. Good luck getting that genie back in the bottle

I don't want it back in the bottle. They should try and get every penny they can. Just like we would want for ourselves.

 

[HominidHusker]

Yep. It is a process long in the making. Big TV money and conference greed has bred this for a long time now, and it was only right for the players to ask for their fair share of the loot. Still, I hate it and I think when the chickens come home to roost we are going to see about 40 or 50 "super schools" form their own league. Those will be the schools with the deepest pockets. If we think coach's salaries have gotten out of hand, just wait until the next "sure thing" five star QB recruit gets offered five million to come play. Can Nebraska keep up with that kind of money?

I also think this will trickle into a lot of youth and HS sport drama.
There will be a lot more crazy helicopter parents getting upset when their HS kid is not named a starter or is not playing their position of choice, getting enough touches, etc.

The parents will think they see $$ on the near horizon for their kid if they get showcased enough at the HS level.
HS kids going to opt out of their playoffs to not risk injury/messing up NIL deal, etc.
The NIL “scouts” will be looking at kids younger and younger.

It was already mentioned, but there could certainly be more locker room drama with all the haves/have nots.
I’ll be interesting for sure.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

Pure SLEAZE.

I wonder such obvious SLEAZE will slow this board down on hurling mud at other Big Ten teams.

giving athletes money vs rape.....yeah, it's a tough call there.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

Cannot wait to read about all the train wrecks these NIL deals will have caused...years from now you'll hear about how mom or dad or some other sibling, siphoned off a huge chunk and now they don't talk anymore.....all the cars the player will spring for, for his parents and or possee, the point spread shaving sure to come about, the girls who get preggos on purpose from the kid who got a large NIL deal, the long lost parent who suddenly shows up out of the blue when the kid they abandoned signs a big deal...plus many others I haven't even thought of yet...like maybe, kids leaving before their degree is complete because they think 100K is a million that will last forever and when it doesn't the degree doesn't happen. This has disaster written all over it

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

Cannot wait to read about all the train wrecks these NIL deals will have caused...years from now you'll hear about how mom or dad or some other sibling, siphoned off a huge chunk and now they don't talk anymore.....all the cars the player will spring for, for his parents and or possee, the point spread shaving sure to come about, the girls who get preggos on purpose from the kid who got a large NIL deal, the long lost oarent who suddenly shows up out of the blue when the kid they abandoned signs a big deal...plus many others I haven't even thought of yet...like maybe, kids leaving before their degree is complete because they think 100K is a million that will last forever and when it doesn't the degree doesn't happen. This has disaster written all over it

Not much different than the world of pro sports. Anybody who's got money is always a target for scammers. That's why I believe Nebraska has an office advising players with NIL deals on financial matters.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

Not much different than the world of pro sports. Anybody who's got money is always a target for scammers. That's why I believe Nebraska has an office advising players with NIL deals on financial matters.

It is different because many pro players finished school and have their degrees....that one part alone will make a huge difference...plus they are repped by an agent who will advise on such things, plus they are around other pro's who are making a living playing sports and will make for good counsel.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

At that point, how much interest will which would essentially be a smallish, semi-pro league generate for attendance and TV? Will fans continue to support that?

I'm guessing no.

Might be time to adopt a FCS team to root for or find a new Fall Saturday hobby.

If other teams start buying Minnesota's key players, I will definitely be done watching even a minute of my team or any college football.

If it happens like that...you'd have to be an absolute fool to keep watching. But we'll see how it goes.

 

[BleedRed78]

Cannot wait to read about all the train wrecks these NIL deals will have caused...years from now you'll hear about how mom or dad or some other sibling, siphoned off a huge chunk and now they don't talk anymore.....all the cars the player will spring for, for his parents and or possee, the point spread shaving sure to come about, the girls who get preggos on purpose from the kid who got a large NIL deal, the long lost parent who suddenly shows up out of the blue when the kid they abandoned signs a big deal...plus many others I haven't even thought of yet...like maybe, kids leaving before their degree is complete because they think 100K is a million that will last forever and when it doesn't the degree doesn't happen. This has disaster written all over it

You're telling me that Adrian didn't throw games, either before or after NIL? Some of our close losses last season sure seemed odd if you ask me... But maybe AM was just that NOT clutch lol

 

[steinek11]

I don't want it back in the bottle. They should try and get every penny they can. Just like we would want for ourselves.

Most people don't live their lives purely from the viewpoint of squeezing every drop of blood. Sure, you want to do well, but there are social and community aspects of life that factor in.

There's more to Nebraska football than just the laundry. If we lose the essence of that, fan interest tanks and that is bad for future viability. If we play this game (and we can't opt out), we better win much more than we lose. Otherwise, as others have said, Saturdays take on new meaning and I save my football watching for Sunday.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Most people don't live their lives purely from the viewpoint of squeezing every drop of blood. Sure, you want to do well, but there are social and community aspects of life that factor in.

There's more to Nebraska football than just the laundry. If we lose the essence of that, fan interest tanks and that is bad for future viability. If we play this game (and we can't opt out), we better win much more than we lose. Otherwise, as others have said, Saturdays take on new meaning and I save my football watching for Sunday.

Why, like, why would you not watch college football anymore?

 

[LonghornInOmaha]

Can't outbid Texas IF they really want somebody. The question is whether they would rather use the money for somebody else. It's like any auction, just how bad do you want something vs. an alternative choice you might have.

The winner in this process of course is the player who can evaluate competing bids.

He's the number one target for Texas right now. They are in desperate need of an edge player. Their spring game proved again what everybody already knew about their defense going back to last fall. Location (close to home and his mother), Gary Patterson on staff, and NIL will be the difference makers.

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

It is different because many pro players finished school and have their degrees....that one part alone will make a huge difference...plus they are repped by an agent who will advise on such things, plus they are around other pro's who are making a living playing sports and will make for good counsel.

Again, that's why Nebraska is providing them with financial advice. And they're still in school. They have to be in school in order to be eligible to play on the team and thus earn their NIL.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Shoot, some of these NIL deals should just be a guaranteed job after you are done playing

I would love to have a 6 figure sales "job" handed to me.

 

[tro80]

If we start a men's soccer program and our big money guys save their FB $$, and go all in on big NIL for the best soccer players, then we can get ahead of the curve in that sport and win a Natty before anyone else catches on.

 

[Rcnut223]

SMU , Oklahoma, Miami and Oregon were paying players long before NIL. Heck I recall a HS classmate of mine that played ball at NU telling me that there were kids getting paid to water the grass on campus. Funny thing was the grass had a sprinkler system ….for real …

 

[SuperBigFan]

SMU , Oklahoma, Miami and Oregon were paying players long before NIL. Heck I recall a HS classmate of mine that played ball at NU telling me that there were kids getting paid to water the grass on campus. Funny thing was the grass had a sprinkler system ….for real …

Bosworth got paid 20 dollars an hour to watch the oil derricks go up and down!

 

[king_kong_]

Most people don't live their lives purely from the viewpoint of squeezing every drop of blood. Sure, you want to do well, but there are social and community aspects of life that factor in.

There's more to Nebraska football than just the laundry. If we lose the essence of that, fan interest tanks and that is bad for future viability. If we play this game (and we can't opt out), we better win much more than we lose. Otherwise, as others have said, Saturdays take on new meaning and I save my football watching for Sunday.

you're typing this on the same board that seems to be overwhelmingly in favor of letting an outsider curry so much favor prior to coaching his first game here that we aren't even going to offer the best quarterback the state of Nebraska has produced in 26 years

all the non-laundry stuff that makes Nebraska Football special has sadly been buried for 2 decades (and counting). it's so decomposed that even our homegrown head coach has forgotten what winning football games behind Nebraska kids means to our state.

 

[steinek11]

Why, like, why would you not watch college football anymore?

If 40 schools become feeder programs for 10 others, I'm out. The playing field is fairly even in the NFL. You're all managing the same salary cap. How you evaluate, develop and coach is the difference.

 

[TheWayITellEm]

If 40 schools become feeder programs for 10 others, I'm out. The playing field is fairly even in the NFL. You're all managing the same salary cap. How you evaluate, develop and coach is the difference.

I agree.

Except that the NFL already lost me. I never thought I'd say this...but I just don't like it anymore. There's no variety. It's all passing. And the rules don't allow for big defensive plays or any variety, like in having some low scoring games. Every play I was praying that it's not a penalty.

 

[gw2kpro]

Pure SLEAZE.

I wonder if such obvious SLEAZE will slow this board down on hurling mud at other Big Ten teams.

Probably not. Why would it?

I'm guessing it won't slow down your full participation up here on the daily.

 

[Harry Caray]

If 40 schools become feeder programs for 10 others, I'm out. The playing field is fairly even in the NFL. You're all managing the same salary cap. How you evaluate, develop and coach is the difference.

I would imagine that a lot of the "lower-tier" programs will lobby for some kind of salary cap for NIL. But I'm not sure how the NCAA would enforce it, if the money is not coming from the universities directly.

So what's more likely to happen, is the top 30 or so programs with the most $$$ will eventually break away from the NCAA and form their own league. While the rest of college football will essentially operate as a Minor League System. The "Major" League teams will poach the best players from the Minor League, and the players that can't hack it in the Major League, will transfer down to the Minor League.

 

[SuperBigFan]

Sounds like some of you must love watching middle school sports and must go attend those games all the time. Since it is so pure and the playing field is level and it is all about the team.

 

[huskat]

If we start a men's soccer program and our big money guys save their FB $$, and go all in on big NIL for the best soccer players, then we can get ahead of the curve in that sport and win a Natty before anyone else catches on.

If we won a soccer championship, would anyone care?