Matheny should be shitcanned.
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That's what we get for going cheap again and not hiring Tito Francona. He would have been a perfect fit for this town and team. I've had to turn it after about 30 mins the last couple games. If something doesn't turn around soon it's gonna be a long summer. I wouldn't have a problem with the secret weapon but after tearing his knee up I still don't know how well he's getting around and he still wants to manage. I assumed when he didn't take back over coaching third that he was no longer really interested. I'm still convinced that his being gone last year is why our infield defense was so shoddy.
I think it was more about Peralta and Diaz just struggling anyway. Carpenter doesn't have a great arm for a MLB third baseman either which is part of the reason why he is where he is now. The bullpen has been killing the Cardinals but it's far from the only problem. Also, I think the organization saying that defense would be the focus in the offseason and then sticking Matt Adams in left field has left a bad taste in a lot of the fans mouth. This is essentially the same team as last year with Dexter Fowler being the only significant change.
It is getting pretty bad although it is still early but I would think after a month or two of this there is going to be a breaking point and I would imagine that Matheny would eventually be on the hot seat if not fired later in the year or the end of the season. Along with a few other coaches. I think Francona would be a good choice but if it were me I would hire Ned Yost. That could be a possibility with the Royals likely to be rebuilding next year.
Damn, I really hate this team. It's not just Matheny, its Mozeliak. Firstly, Matheny doesn't have the stones to bench his veterans that suck. Peralta is a fat, worthless pile of goo. He's too fat to bend down to field grounders. How can you be making ~12 mill and show up to camp that out of shape? But Matheny runs him out there every freaking day. Garcia should be the every day 3rd baseman going forward. Not much power, but a solid glove and he gets on base a lot. Same for Wainwright. He's done. He can't get out quality major league hitters any more. He's a human batting T, but Matheny will run him out there every 6th day. Same for that fat piece of **** Broxton.
And Mo is equally inept. Why sign a 34 year old aging catcher to a 3 year extension worth 60 million dollars when they supposedly have one of the best catching prospects in baseball? Don't get me wrong, I really like Molina but extension was stupid. And he needs to cut the cord on Grichuk, Wong, and Adams. They are not MLB talent. And Piscotty is done. He will turn into Allen Craig part 2.
And that ******* Mo kept talking about emphasizing defense this past offseason. News alert. You're 2 from the bottom in fielding. How can say you're emphasizing defense and then stick No-so-fat Adams out there? He's a 17ing idiot.
I like Diaz, but he's not a major league SS. Doesn't have the range. I like him at 2nd, but Delvin Perez is still at least 2-3 years away.
Damn, I hate this team.
I agree with some of what you said but I don't think things are as desperate as you make them out to be. I have to agree I didn't get the extension for yadi but he'll he's the best hitter on the team right now. I'm not as down in the prospects of this team because I don't expect carpenter, fowler and piscotty to continue to hit so poorly.
If I were the GM, I'd trade Wong and try to get a SS. Then I'd move Diaz to 2B. I'd start either gyorko or garcia at 3rd.
We have our SS of the future in Delvin Perez, but he's not ready. Wong would only fetch a bucket of balls now that he has that ridiculous contract. And Gyorko doesn't hit with RISP as evidenced by his .230 average in such situations last year (only 59 RBI on 30 HRs-that's absurd).
You might be right about Fowler and Piscotty but Carpenter is a head case. He doesn't hit unless he leads off. I wanted to deal him last year when he had some value.
Damn, I hate this team.
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Also, Bonzo my friend, step away from the ledge. It's been a bad week but let's take breathe or two. Very small sample size but the rotation had a 1.70 era the first time through. Yes Waino and Lynn haven't looked good but Mo's hands were kind of tied when Reyes needs TJ in spring training. The bullpen has sucked "bigleague" but Bowman has looked solid and it appears Rosie is back. Those 3 should be able to finish out most wins. Now that Matheny doesn't hafta run out Secreist in the 8th it allows the rest of the bullpen to fall into place. Gant should be back soon and Tiuvawhatshisface and Socolovich are major league arms. Now to the lineup. Agree Peralta is toast, thankfully he's in his last year of that contract. Agree Carp is a headcase, but when hot he can carry a team. I would consider going Carp-Dexter-Diaz. If for no other reason than to get him going prior to the ASB to see if we could move him. But it's ridiculous to say it's time to cut bait on Diaz, Grichuk, and Piscotty. You put those 3 on the trading block tomorrow and Mo will be fielding calls from 29 other GMs within the hour. I don't like this lineups inconsistent solid contact but it's basically the same lineup that was one of the most productive 3-4 groups in MLB last year. The sky isn't falling but we're 2-3years away from challenging the cubs/dodgers/mets/nats. That fact sucks *** but let's be honest, we've missed the playoffs like 5 times since 2000. This is from memory but I think we have played in the NLCS in like 9-10 of those 16 years. But again, this is gonna be along summer. Again D@A, Sprechen sie dick
Also, Bonzo my friend, step away from the ledge. It's been a bad week but let's take breathe or two. Very small sample size but the rotation had a 1.70 era the first time through. Yes Waino and Lynn haven't looked good but Mo's hands were kind of tied when Reyes needs TJ in spring training. The bullpen has sucked "bigleague" but Bowman has looked solid and it appears Rosie is back. Those 3 should be able to finish out most wins. Now that Matheny doesn't hafta run out Secreist in the 8th it allows the rest of the bullpen to fall into place. Gant should be back soon and Tiuvawhatshisface and Socolovich are major league arms. Now to the lineup. Agree Peralta is toast, thankfully he's in his last year of that contract. Agree Carp is a headcase, but when hot he can carry a team. I would consider going Carp-Dexter-Diaz. If for no other reason than to get him going prior to the ASB to see if we could move him. But it's ridiculous to say it's time to cut bait on Diaz, Grichuk, and Piscotty. You put those 3 on the trading block tomorrow and Mo will be fielding calls from 29 other GMs within the hour. I don't like this lineups inconsistent solid contact but it's basically the same lineup that was one of the most productive 3-4 groups in MLB last year. The sky isn't falling but we're 2-3years away from challenging the cubs/dodgers/mets/nats. That fact sucks *** but let's be honest, we've missed the playoffs like 5 times since 2000. This is from memory but I think we have played in the NLCS in like 9-10 of those 16 years. But again, this is gonna be along summer. Again D@A, Sprechen sie dick
don't blame you...
And you have every right to do so. Enjoy your run. Looks like it might be a long one.
And you have every right to do so. Enjoy your run. Looks like it might be a long one.
I don't think a Lower A SS is going to help the Cardinals anytime soon - and that's about what Wong is worth these days. That extension is the worst deal Mozeliak has done to date. Even worse than the Matheny hire.
And if Molina is the best hitter on the team - and he might well be - that oughta tell you all you need to know about this lineup. Because when he goes into the HOF, it won't be because of his offense.
Fowler was the only decent off-season acquisition Mozeliak added to a weak roster. And he is no longer surrounded by the likes of Rizzo, Bryant and Baez - so it might be best to pump the breaks on him.
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Moi Aussi.
Maybe the next 100+ years the Cards will suxes and the Cubs will rule.
I agree with you about Mo. And this may not be the popular opinion but I'm OK giving a guy like a Molina a contract like that because they're basically paying him for what he did in the past. He handles pitchers well and I think he could mentor Kelly some as well over the next three years. If it's a true Cardinal great- and I do think Molina qualifies as that- I'm OK with paying them a bad contract. That's really the only exception though. It's contracts like the Mike Leake and Kolten Wong contracts that bother me. They paid way too much for Wong way too soon. If he had Molina's track record- then maybe. But he doesn't. And now he's playing like a guy that has been set for life so he doesn't really care any more. Not that he was ever that great to start with. And on top of all of that, it has created a rift between Matheny and the front office over Wong.
Mo has always seemed real passive especially when it comes to free agents and "wanting to wait until the market plays out."
I agree with most everything else.
Knowing the history of the Cardinals I am not holding my breath that they'll be terrible for very long
I stand by my claim. Piscotty still sucks. But at least he was smart enough to dupe that dumbass GM Mozeliak to a nice 6 year contract. Mo is the stupidest GM in baseball. He's gonna have a steaming pile of **** for a roster next year. Wainwright, Leake, Piscotty, Cecil, Molina, and Fowler will be making a combined ~84 mil next year and none of them will contribute much. Molina and Fowler are lazy and the others just suck. Who signs a 35 year old catcher to a 3 year 60 mil dollar extension at the ripe age of 35? What a stupid 17.
It's obvious Luhnow was the brains behind the operations. Their drafts have been **** since he left.
I stand by my claim. Piscotty sux. A whopping 0.723 OPS with an OPS+ of 92 and a season WAR of 0.2. We're stuck with him for 4 more years. Mo is the stupidest GM in baseball. Wish I could earn his salary and be as incompotent as he is. Sorry if the link doesn't work.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/piscost01.shtml
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