What is salvation? What are ones being delivered from?
There are big divides on salvation. Arminianism, Calvanism, Universalism.
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There are big divides on salvation. Arminianism, Calvanism, Universalism.
I know reformed theology. Romans 9.
The bible is mostly deterministic but that raises other questions, which to me aren't satisfactory.
I find it all fascinating, kinda like Lord of the Rings, but I don't think it is based in reality.
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How about you read the book?
Jesus' divine was pushed back further and further over time.
resurrection > baptism > conception> pre-existence
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Beautiful. You can't discuss Mark . . . is it because of this?
Mark 1: 9-11
"It happened in those days that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee and was baptized in the Jordan by John.
coming up out of the water he saw the heavens being torn open and the Spirit, like a dove, descending upon him. And a voice came from the heavens, 'You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.'"
You'd rather post an article from "#PizzaOverEverything" guy. You are so smart. Anyone who wants to find something to back-up what they think, can find an article on it.
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It shouldn't be this difficult. When you make a claim or statement, it isn't on someone else to disprove your statement. Did you ever, at any point, have a conversation with another person who has asked you a question? For ***** sake man.
from the pizza guy? You said "Jesus, according to Mark, was adopted by God." You were unable to discuss the Book of Mark at all, and instead posted an article from the pizza guy. Not the most impressive of sources. I can post links too, from guys who have many more credentials than a love of pizza and 23 followers. Clown.
All of the NT books besides the gospel of John and Revelation assert that Jesus was adopted by God. Mark suggests that this happened at baptism.
For example in Luke, which used Mark as a source:
There are curious variants of Luke 3.22 in which the voice from heaven declares “you are my son, today I have begotten you,” a direct quote of Psalm 2.7. This reading is attested in an early Greek MS and several Latin MS and was quoted frequently by early Church fathers.
Whoa! Let's do this. Give me the link that proves all of the NT books save two assert this. Can't wait to see authored it, maybe the time-to-make-the-donuts guy? I loved those commercials, so he's got a little cred.
Sorry, I assumed someone of your caliber would know something about the sources you hold sacred. This is basic information. What do they teach you in church? To tithe?
Another non-answer. I'm kind of disappointed to realize how weak you are. You can't answer anything. Your response is to insult people, because you don't have a response, other than to post articles from a pizza guy. Believe whatever you want, whenever you want, about whatever you want, I couldn't care less. But the tough guy, I-read-a-bunch-and-know-what-I'm-talking-about shtick is over. I'll admit I took some pleasure in exposing you. Seriously, I do hope you can come to some sort of peace with this whole God thing you are struggling with.
I'm not insulting you. I can't take credit for that. That was all you. Next you are gonna cry persecution. lol
Have any input on the quote I provided or are you just going to red herring and bring up fallacies?
"There are curious variants of Luke 3.22 in which the voice from heaven declares “you are my son, today I have begotten you,” a direct quote of Psalm 2.7. This reading is attested in an early Greek MS and several Latin MS and was quoted frequently by early Church fathers."
