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Every book and every page in the Bible (Bible is always capitalized) is about Jesus, not Israel. The OT foretells Jesus and the reason Jesus is necessary starting in Genesis. The NT tells the story of Jesus and why He had to die on the cross... The old covenant was sacrificing animals and grains to please God and had to be renewed once a year on . Jesus was the perfect blood sacrifice to make the temporary sacrifices permanent. Day of Atonement: After the cleansing, the live goat was brought to the high priest. Laying his hands on the scapegoat, the high priest was to “confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites – all their sins – and put them on the goat’s head. He shall send the goat away into the wilderness in the care of someone appointed for the task. The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a remote place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness” (vv. 21-22). Symbolically, the scapegoat took on the sins of the Israelites and removed them (v. 10). For Christians, this is a foreshadowing of Christ.

The Law was specifically for the Jews, it was how they were to live and how they were to worship YHWH. God specifically placed Israel where He did because all the trade routes of that time had to pass through that particular piece of land from Europe, Asia, and Africa. If Israel had done what was asked of them, they would have shown the known world of that time who YHWH was. There were many cultures living in that region that were similar to each other, God gave Israel to set them apart.
It is interesting to learn how people believed back then. Cultures are fascinating.
 
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It is interesting to learn how people believed back then. Cultures are fascinating.
Yes, they were and still are... Living in the DR as a missionary is a never-ending struggle. I have to check with locals constantly to make sure what we want to do is acceptable and doesn't cross lines.
 

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Do you think you insult because of cognitive rigidity? Insecurity?
Very ironic. Defines you to a T.

I can relate to you because I used to be like you. Rigid black and white defensive thinking based on religious programming. It is a sad existence and stumps one's maturity. But it was time to put away childish things and grow as a human. I know you can do it, you just may need extra time.

Cognitive dissonance is a defensive, survival mechanism to prevent emotional trauma. You don't choose your beliefs but you can start to question them.
 
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Yes, they were and still are... Living in the DR as a missionary is a never-ending struggle. I have to check with locals constantly to make sure what we want to do is acceptable and doesn't cross lines.
God bless you.
 

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Yes, they were and still are... Living in the DR as a missionary is a never-ending struggle. I have to check with locals constantly to make sure what we want to do is acceptable and doesn't cross lines.
As long as you aren't forcing it on the inhabitants, I see no real problem with that. Only issue I have is when the wrath of god is invoked if one doesn't accept.
 

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There are really people that believe the Bible is a biography?

Whoa baby…
It is interesting to be part of history where the long held status quo fades and gives rise to a vacuum. Like a good drama, it will be interesting to see where things lead.
 

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Up to 30% of men are raising a child thats not theirs and they don't even know it.
"This is an often misunderstood statistic provided by some paternity test labs regarding the percentage paternity tests with a ‘not the father’ result. Most paternity test labs report that about 1/3 of their paternity tests have a ‘negative’ result. Of all the possible fathers who take a paternity test, about 32% are not the biological father. But remember, this is 1/3 of men who have a reason to take a paternity test - not 1/3 of all men. That is a huge difference!"
 

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It is interesting to be part of history where the long held status quo fades and gives rise to a vacuum. Like a good drama, it will be interesting to see where things lead.
Idk,sonething happened 2023 years ago that convinced people that Jesus was the son of God.
 

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"This is an often misunderstood statistic provided by some paternity test labs regarding the percentage paternity tests with a ‘not the father’ result. Most paternity test labs report that about 1/3 of their paternity tests have a ‘negative’ result. Of all the possible fathers who take a paternity test, about 32% are not the biological father. But remember, this is 1/3 of men who have a reason to take a paternity test - not 1/3 of all men. That is a huge difference!"
Thats why I said up to.

1% would be too high.

However the need does not equate to belief. A man has to have a reason to take a test in that scenario. If hes not taking a test he has no clue if thats really his child or not.
 

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Idk,sonething happened 2023 years ago that convinced people that Jesus was the son of God.
Just like something happened in 1830 to convince people that Joseph Smith got revelations about how the american indians were the lost tribes of Israel.

We really don't know what the earliest Christians believed. There were many schools of thought and they changed over the years. Paul's view won out due to his power and influence. There were many disagreements and schisms early on.
 

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Thats why I said up to.

1% would be too high.

However the need does not equate to belief. A man has to have a reason to take a test in that scenario. If hes not taking a test he has no clue if thats really his child or not.
Yeah that is insane. Women are ******* evil hahaha
 

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Just like something happened in 1830 to convince people that Joseph Smith got revelations about how the american indians were the lost tribes of Israel.

We really don't know what the earliest Christians believed. There were many schools of thought and they changed over the years. Paul's view won out.

True but Jesus being the son of God is the belief of every Christian. So we know exactly what they believed if theu called rhemselves Christian.

That type of belief cant be built off just word of mouth initially.
 

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True but Jesus being the son of God is the belief of every Christian. So we know exactly what they believed if theu called rhemselves Christian.

That type of belief cant be built off just word of mouth initially.
Depends on what people meant by "Son of God". Son of God is the traditional sense just meant someone favored by God. Angels were sons of god. Adam was a son of god.

Some believed Jesus became the Son at his ascension, others at his baptism, some believed he had always been the Son of God.

Mark (the earliest gospel) is very adoptionist and says that if we do the will of God, we can be adopted as sons of God just like Jesus was.

Paul says that Jesus was exalted after his death, leading to Paul viewing Jesus' sonship being during his ascension.
 

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Depends on what people meant by "Son of God". Son of God is the traditional sense just meant someone favored by God. Angels were sons of god. Adam was a son of god.

Some believed Jesus became the Son at his ascension, others at his baptism, some believed he had always been the Son of God.

Mark is very adoptionist and says that if we do the will of God, we can be adopted as Sons of God just like Jesus was.
Adopted key word.

Meaning their is a real son of God.
 

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Very ironic. Defines you to a T.

I can relate to you because I used to be like you. Rigid black and white defensive thinking based on religious programming. It is a sad existence and stumps one's maturity. But it was time to put away childish things and grow as a human. I know you can do it, you just may need extra time.

Cognitive dissonance is a defensive, survival mechanism to prevent emotional trauma. You don't choose your beliefs but you can start to question them.
But you are the one name-calling and slinging insults. So you see, the article is about you.
 
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Great thread.

You can all head on back to any number of threads now and tell us how 'insert name here' is fat and you would not have sex with them.
Oh no wait, gluttony....believers or non believers here can teach/regale us for hours about that. Yeah, that's it.

You're all so virtuous it hurts my tiny brain just trying to comprehend how you pimp so hard.
 
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As long as you aren't forcing it on the inhabitants, I see no real problem with that. Only issue I have is when the wrath of god is invoked if one doesn't accept.

Mark 6:11 Jesus says, “And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.” I am to create disciples, if I am unable to do this then my time here was of no benefit. If people here can not continue what we have started, then I have failed. I teach the Word of God through devotionals I write to over 11 villages and pass out by hand to over 1,100 houses twice a week. If they tell us they do not want them, we stop giving them. I do not judge them, I just pray for them, no hard feelings. We work with local pastors to teach Bible studies to 3 villages.
 

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Jesus, according to Mark, was adopted by God and was to be an example of how others could be adopted. Hence the co-rulers and co-heirs of the Kingdom.


Jesus has always existed before his human form.

We are children of God so thats not really a point of controversy.
 

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Mark 6:11 Jesus says, “And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.” I am to create disciples, if I am unable to do this then my time here was of no benefit. If people here can not continue what we have started, then I have failed. I teach the Word of God through devotionals I write to over 11 villages and pass out by hand to over 1,100 houses twice a week. If they tell us they do not want them, we stop giving them. I do not judge them, I just pray for them, no hard feelings. We work with local pastors to teach Bible studies to 3 villages.
Jesus never instructed non-Jews to make disciples. He said that he would return before his 1st century followers made it to every city in Israel. He was to return during their generation.

The question is "what does sharing the bible accomplish"?
 

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Great thread.

You can all head on back to any number of threads now and tell us how 'insert name here' is fat and you would not have sex with them.
Oh no wait, gluttony....believers or non believers here can teach/regale us for hours about that. Yeah, that's it.

You're all so virtuous it hurts my tiny brain just trying to comprehend how you pimp so hard.

Im a sinner.
 

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I very much encourage ones to read their holy book and really study it and analyze why they believe what they believe. If they do so and come to the conclusion that they still believe, they now have stronger beliefs.

There is a risk though because the majority that really delve in and study usually leave.
 
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Jesus never instructed non-Jews to make disciples. He said that he would return before his 1st century followers made it to every city in Israel. He was to return during their generation.

The question is "what does sharing the bible accomplish"?
Matthew 28:16-20

The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

When you share the Bible, you share the Word of God, which changes lives and gives us joy to share with everyone...
 

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Matthew 28:16-20

The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

When you share the Bible, you share the Word of God, which changes lives and gives us joy to share with everyone...
His audience was 1st century Jewish followers. The end of the age/last days was within their lifetimes. 70 CE
Sharing the Bible can also change peoples' lives for the worse.
 

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I very much encourage ones to read their holy book and really study it and analyze why they believe what they believe. If they do so and come to the conclusion that they still believe, they now have stronger beliefs.

There is a risk though because the majority that really delve in and study usually leave.

They weren't believers before.

We know the way to salvation and how to treat each other.

Anything beyond that is just the devil using humans to distract with individual verses as weapons for him.
 

RedMyMind

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They weren't believers before.

We know the way to salvation and how to treat each other.

Anything beyond that is just the devil using humans to distract with individual verses as weapons for him.
But they were believers. No true Scotsman fallacy.
Salvation, or deliverance was to be from the judgment upon the corrupt Israel of the 1st century.
According to Romans 2, god's law is written on our hearts so we don't need the bible for morality.
 

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But they were believers. No true Scotsman fallacy.
Salvation, or deliverance was to be from the judgment upon the corrupt Israel of the 1st century.
According to Romans 2, god's law is written on our hearts so we don't need the bible for morality.
You know that because its on the bible.

No bible you cant assume that's true.

What you are speaking of is after beung exposed to the word.

Without it you would have no knowledge of how to reach salvation in God's eyes..
 

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You know that because its on the bible.

No bible you cant assume that's true.

What you are speaking of is after beung exposed to the word.

Without it you would have no knowledge of how to reach salvation in God's eyes..
Isn't theology fun? Didn't the supposed author do a good job of making things "plainly seen" and not confusing.

Apologetics means that the Bible is not a book for all people. You need an authority to tell what it means.
 

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Isn't theology fun? Didn't the supposed author do a good job of making things "plainly seen" and not confusing.

Apologetics means that the Bible is not a book for all people. You need an authority to tell what it means.
Not the part that leads you to salvation. Its pretty clear.