Mangum

[Bulldog24]

At what round would Jake start to contemplate coming back for his senior season?

 

[8dog]

51

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

I think he has to consider coming back if not picked in the first 5 rounds & the fifth currently has 3 more picks.

 

[Arthur2478]

Jake is already 22 years old. I don't see him bypassing pro ball to coming back as a 23 year old.

 

[11thEagleFan]

As long as he's not drafted in like, the 30th round or higher, it just doesn't make financial sense to come back. Although if the money isn't important, senior year in college is a blast.

 

[msstate7]

Adam Frazier was drafted in the 6th. I think somewhere between rounds 6-8

 

[ronpolk]

If I understand the bonus pool correctly, teams are a little more free to give whatever they want signing bonus wise after the 10th round. Wouldn’t be shocked to see Mangum get drafted after the 10th round and get a decent signing bonus. About this time of the draft, you see teams loading up on college seniors so they can give them a very small signing bonus.

 

[MSUDC11]

If he doesn’t get drafted today (thru the 10th round) then I think there’s a chance he might come back. But any pick today and I feel like he’s gone.

 

[8dog]

They can give up to 125k after round 10 but can add any unused slot money from the first ten rounds. You cannot use any slot money of a player you dont sign

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

This is my understanding also. There is a pool of $ that each club can spend on rounds 1-10. 11th round & later max is $125K plus the any remaining total $ for pool for 1st ten rounds that was not used.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

The worst place for a college senior is the tenth round. They will lowball you as much as possible because you count completely against the bonus pool, but your amount is not worth all that much if you don't sign. You could have a little bit of leverage if you're in the first round because your pick is so much of the bonus pool. However, a team would have to be incredibly stupid to draft a college senior before the third round because of this. They'll load up on them toward the end of the first ten rounds and use their bonus slot money to shore up the high schoolers.

It's a much crappier arrangement than what college football players have now.

 

[patdog]

Jake is already 22 years old. I don't see him bypassing pro ball to coming back as a 23 year old.

This is as important as the money. The clock is ticking. At that age, he’s only got about 6 years to make the majors before teams start to lose interest. It’s time to make baseball your job instead of a part-time hobby.

 

[5049]

He doesn't, he goes pro, this is real life, the SEC hits record doesn't matter

 

[She Mate Me]

So he turned 20 years old during his freshman year at State? Is my math right?

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Case in point: Does anyone know who holds that lead without looking it up?

 

[She Mate Me]

I say Travis Chapman. Bout to look it up.

ETA I'm wrong. Next...

 

[punterjoe]

Jeffrey Rea?

 

[She Mate Me]

Ding ding!!

 

[Mjoelner]

That's the MSU record but not the SEC record.

 

[She Mate Me]

That's the MSU record but not the SEC record.

My bad, I thought that's what we were talking about.

 

[bulldogcountry1]

What if he comes back, adds about 10-15 lbs, hits 6-8 HRs, and pitches? Surely that would get someone's attention in MLB. He's perfectly capable of doing all of that. He can break the hits record while he is at it.

 

[Xenomorph]

It's here on Page 4 when you want to look it up...

Good grief.. the numbers from the nuclear bat era are staggering.

edit.. doesn't look like that page has been updated since the 2015 season.

http://a.espncdn.com/SEC/media/2016/SEC Baseball records.pdf

 

[Mjoelner]

NP. I didn't know either so I had to go look it up too. I was guessing Richard Lee for MSU.

 

[She Mate Me]

Rea is 4th in SEC history at 335. LSU's Eddy Furniss leads at 352.

Jake's at 266. Barring injury, he'd have a damn good chance to break it. Just saying.

 

[Bucky Dog]

Coming back for senior year worked out really really well for Rooker!! But I think Jake is gone for anything above 20th round.

 

[HD6]

Rooker came back for his junior year. He had another year of eligibility.

 

[She Mate Me]

Jake's now the only non HS player ranked in the Top 200 prospects not to have been drafted. Is there any chance he's given teams reason to doubt he will sign?

 

[Faustdog]

Jake's now the only non HS player ranked in the Top 200 prospects not to have been drafted. Is there any chance he's given teams reason to doubt he will sign?

No. Everyone expects him to sign.

 

[fishwater99]

That's what happens when you hold your children back for sports.
So he was held back two years?

 

[She Mate Me]

That's what happens when you hold your children back for sports.
So he was held back two years?

Hell, I guess. I didn't turn 20 till the Fall semester of my Junior year.

ETA I guess just one year. If he and I had been in the same class he would have been 18 months older than me.

 

[Arthur2478]

So he was held back two years?

He’s 22 at the end of his junior year. Typically, you’re 22 at the end of your senior year. Thus, he’s only one year behind. I have no idea why he was held back. He was born in March of ‘96 so maybe it was just due to a late birthday.

 

[57stratdawg]

No Small yet either.

 

[PineGroveBully]

Damn, born March 96. A great time to be a bulldog but makes me feel ancient.

 

[fishwater99]

That's not a Late Bday. I was 17 when I graduated high school. Jake was 19.

 

[Philly Dawg]

Small is a freshman.

 

[8dog]

He is a 3rd year sophomore

 

[The Peeper]

I think what Jake needs to develop is his throwing arm more than anything. Everybody knows he can hit, and he covers a lot of territory in the outfield. But on fly balls and gappers, runners seem to advance too easily