Mangum May get the SEC record in this game.
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Jake goes 5-6 vs ULM and passes Blake Dean to move into 6th place in SEC Career Hits with 333. Raises season avg from .398 to .417
Rea is at 335 for MSU record.
Furniss is at 352 for SEC record.
He is leaving duplantis in the dust. 333 to 308. 20 hits left to take the SEC record with 25 games left in the regular season. Much less any kind of run in the post season.
He could have a chance to break the NCAA record.
Season 142—Tim Barker, UCF, 1985 (85 games)
Career 418—Phil Stephenson, Wichita St., 1979-82 (288 games)
Season 142—Tim Barker, UCF, 1985 (85 games)
Career 418—Phil Stephenson, Wichita St., 1979-82 (288 games)
For Jake to get the NCAA Career record, Jake needs 85 hits and needs to average around 3 (2.94) hits per game if we only have 29 games left (1 SEC tourney game + 3 NCAA Regional games). The average drops to 2.75 by getting 2 more games in a Super Regional or 2.58 by meeting the minimum games (2) in the CWS.
Naturally if we get more SEC tourney games or go to 4 games in a Regional or 3 games in a Super or win in the CWS then it adds more games and lowers the average hits per game.
It is definitely doable for Jake.
I don’t think 419 is very doable. I think 400 hits is logically in play though. At least 28 games left, a maximum of 45 games left. If he held his current ~ .420 pace thru a maximum postseason run where we went deep in the sec tourney and faced elimination and came thru the loser’s bracket all the way through, and played for a national championship.... and the rest of our lineup continued killing the ball and getting him this many ABs.... he would be knocking on the door....
He needs ~2.3 hits per game if we play 25 regular season games + 3 SEC Tourney game + 3 regional games + 3 super regional games + 3 CWS games. That means he'd need to get 5.75 ABs per game while hitting .400 or 5.5 ABs per game if he hits .420.
I don't have a good handle on how many at bats he's likely to get per game, or on how reasonable my guess is as an upper number of games left is, but that doesn't seem doable?
2.58 hits per game (the lowest listed in your scenario) works out to hitting about .557 the rest of the way if you assume he maintains his current pace of 4.63 AB’s per game. Yeah, we can play more postseason games and lower his required number of hits per game a little bit, but under any scenario he’s going to have to hit at least .500 from here on out to get anywhere close. I don’t see any way that’s possible....eapecially with 80% of our remaining games being against SEC competition or NCAA tournament teams. If he did somehow do it, it would be by far and away the greatest offensive season in NCAA history.
Had Jake started all of the 2016 season and not broken his hand in 2017, he would probably be the NCAA record holder at the end of this season.
That’s a full AB more than his current average per game. And ABs per game depends on the whole team’s success at the plate. With the bulk of the remaining regular season being SEC games, I expect his average ABs per game is going to go down.
He started off slow his freshman year but caught fire once conference play started. His sophomore year may be the most amazing one to me. Broken hand and he still hit .324.
No it does not seem doable. 5.5 per game isn’t happening. Make that 4.25 - 4.5. Then figure on 4 secT games, 5 regional games, 3 supers, 5 in the cws bracket side, and 3 in the title series. 4.5 * 45 = 202.5 ab @ .420 = 85 more hits. A few short. And that’s me stretching the logic of the deal as far as it can possibly be stretched IMO.
400 would be a ridiculous accomplishment and is the number that is actually attainable if we don’t bow out early and he stays en fuego.
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No matter what records he breaks, it's a hell of an accomplishment considering he's played his whole career with a BBCOR bat. None of the guys ahead of him did. To me it's almost like the home run record in the majors. There was a record, then a steroid era record. It didn't make them equal.
Sometimes an SEC record is more impressive than a national record. Wonder how good the pitching, opposing defenses, etc., were for the record holder?
Decent back in those days at Wichita St. The record holder did average 72 starts per season for 4 years back when a bunch of teams would play 80 games. Before Polk got the current limit instituted. So it’s still not apples to apples since the guy probably plays in 30 more games than Mangum will have the opportunity to
The NCAA record is probably safe forever....
Because nobody will ever play that many games in a season again. The conference record is only attainable because SEC teams never played 80 games in a season back in the day.
Because nobody will ever play that many games in a season again. The conference record is only attainable because SEC teams never played 80 games in a season back in the day.
Jake is a perfect example of a BBCOR era hitter. Jake was never a power guy, so other than a few hits here or there, BBCOR bats vs the old bats really would not change much for Jake. Other than his power numbers being slightly above what they have been, I don't believe BBCOR to be as big of a factor for Jake. What he would gain in harder hit balls that squeak past the infielders, I believe he would lose on lazy fly balls that would be "bloop" hits with BBCOR.
Until the ball change during the BBCOR era, a hitter like Jake was actually the preferred style for MANY schools. *top to bottom in the lineup
Until the ball change during the BBCOR era, a hitter like Jake was actually the preferred style for MANY schools. *top to bottom in the lineup
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Given Jake broke his hand by doing a foolish thing like punching a dugout wall, the broken hand is on him.
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