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TIREPUNK

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lostinthelight said:
Cmon man. Climate change isn't real. It's not man-made and it's no big deal. It's just a radical liberal plot.

If we just ignore all the crazy weather events, science and damage it'll just go away like Covid did.

What we need is just bigger balls and better umbrellas.
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Crazy weather events? I had no idea that hurricanes. tornado's, floods, etc....never existed.....until Al Gore fear mongered it to raise money from lefties who hate America..

It's good to know that he has the ability to tell us about it while flying around the world in his private jet while living in 40,000 square foot mansions. just to tell us peasants to lower our "carbon footprint"...lol

Lying hypocrites, all of 'em.....agenda'd
 
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lostinthelight

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DvlDog4WVU said:
If you’d voted for Brandon, dont you think the best strategy is to try and do everything in your power to talk about literally anything other than your own administration?

There isn’t a metric you can point to and say it’s better under Biden. His inflation is literally crushing the poor and middle class. His energy policy is a disaster.

His immigration policy was so bad, he’s put more kids in cages in less than a year than Trump’s entire time in office. He’s literally restarting Trump’s Nazi-like remain in Mexico policy.

Brandon ran on having a plan for COVID. He’s literally not done anything. The vaccine rolled out on Trump’s warp speed timeline. He inherited 1 millions shots a day and has fvcked that up. He’s now killed more than Trump and the number keeps climbing with no end in site. His plan? Put a gun to your head and take away your individual body and health autonomy.

Don’t even get me started about foreign policy. Hahahahaha

Fvcking guy and his clownshoes cohorts can’t get a Reconciliation Bill passed with a majority in both houses.

This crew is so fvcked up they don’t know whether to scratch their watch or wind their ***. So yea, I’d do anything possible to shift the discussion to anything BUT Brandon’s performance.

22 mid terms are going to be FIRE! It’ll be nice to put the crazy, incompetent, and incoherent back in the box.
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Where do you get your information?

The reconciliation bill passed weeks ago.

Lowest unemployment in history.

More jobs created than the previous administration already.

No president with a D beside his name could get the right wing nut jobs to get vaccinated and get this pandemic under control. They are willing to die for their cause...whatever that is these days. Something about somebody named Brandon I guess.

I'll agree with you on the remain in Mexico policy. It's barbaric and that will work itself out in the courts.

Just like insisting the former guy won the election...people saying things won't make them true.

I'll also agree that 2022 midterms will be interesting for sure. The former guy is on his way to completely screwing over the Rs with his crazy endorsements and loyalty tests.

The clowns that will win these primaries will really struggle in the general. Remember "I'm not a witch" lady from DE and the "legitimate rape" guy from MO? They'll look normal compared to the Q and maga nuts next year.

It'll be fun to watch if nothing else.

I'm glad you seem to be reading and studying more. The only issue is your sources. But you stick with that and keep living in your bubble of make believe. It's good for the world.
 
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GrimReaper82

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lostinthelight said:
Where do you get your information?

The reconciliation bill passed weeks ago.

Lowest unemployment in history.

More jobs created than the previous administration already.

No president with a D beside his name could get the right wing nut jobs to get vaccinated and get this pandemic under control. They are willing to die for their cause...whatever that is these days. Something about somebody named Brandon I guess.

I'll agree with you on the remain in Mexico policy. It's barbaric and that will work itself out in the courts.

Just like insisting the former guy won the election...people saying things won't make them true.

I'll also agree that 2022 midterms will be interesting for sure. The former guy is on his way to completely screwing over the Rs with his crazy endorsements and loyalty tests.

The clowns that will win these primaries will really struggle in the general. Remember "I'm not a witch" lady from DE and the "legitimate rape" guy from MO? They'll look normal compared to the Q and maga nuts next year.

It'll be fun to watch if nothing else.

I'm glad you seem to be reading and studying more. The only issue is your sources. But you stick with that and keep living in your bubble of make believe. It's good for the world.
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Lol. You watch too much CNN.
 
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lostinthelight

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TIREPUNK said:
Crazy weather events? I had no idea that hurricanes. tornado's, floods, etc....never existed.....until Al Gore fear mongered it to raise money from lefties who hate America..

It's good to know that he has the ability to tell us about it while flying around the world in his private jet while living in 40,000 square foot mansions. just to tell us peasants to lower our "carbon footprint"...lol
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So do you believe in climate change or not? You're trying to have it both ways here?

Do you like science or not? And are you really hating on a guy that hasn't held office for 30 years???

You know what...never mind my questions. You don't have enough of a handle on the topics to even know.
 
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chect_rivals

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lostinthelight said:
Yeah right...so devious...

Next thing you know they'll be a Power Point presentation about how to subvert election results and an attack on the Capital to go along with it.

Those darn liberals.
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TIREPUNK said:
Crazy weather events? I had no idea that hurricanes. tornado's, floods, etc....never existed.....until Al Gore fear mongered it to raise money from lefties who hate America..

It's good to know that he has the ability to tell us about it while flying around the world in his private jet while living in 40,000 square foot mansions. just to tell us peasants to lower our "carbon footprint"...lol

Lying hypocrites, all of 'em.....agenda'd
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Yeah pretty sure the dinosaurs never experienced any bad weather…. 70 and sunny 365!
 
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lostinthelight

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chect said:
Yeah pretty sure the dinosaurs never experienced any bad weather…. 70 and sunny 365!
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Lol...Well that settles it!

No arguing the dinosaur logic. I mean talk about great science!

The nomination for a Nobel prize is already in the mail.
 
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lostinthelight

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jpoppa said:
What Russian collusion for 4 years 😑
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You know...the Mueller report very clearly said that while they could not prove direct collusion it did not clear the president of any wrong doing right?

Seriously...do you know that or not? It literally Saya that in the report.

Known facts include Don Jr "loving" to get information from Russia and attending the meeting to get it. It's also proven that Manafort shared internal polling with Russian agents.

You thinking the Mueller investigation cleared the president of collusion is like you thinking the OJ trial cleared OJ of murder.

The report showed many instances of obstruction of justice on top of all that. Of course none of it was prosecuted because Rs don't hold Rs accountable for breaking the law.

Of all the crazy stuff Rs do...referring to the Mueller investigation as clearing the president is one of the dumbest. It did the exact opposite.
 
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lostinthelight said:
You know...the Mueller report very clearly said that while they could not prove direct collusion it did not clear the president of any wrong doing right?

Seriously...do you know that or not? It literally Saya that in the report.

Known facts include Don Jr "loving" to get information from Russia and attending the meeting to get it. It's also proven that Manafort shared internal polling with Russian agents.

You thinking the Mueller investigation cleared the president of collusion is like you thinking the OJ trial cleared OJ of murder.

The report showed many instances of obstruction of justice on top of all that. Of course none of it was prosecuted because Rs don't hold Rs accountable for breaking the law.

Of all the crazy stuff Rs do...referring to the Mueller investigation as clearing the president is one of the dumbest. It did the exact opposite.
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DvlDog4WVU

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lostinthelight said:
Where do you get your information?

The reconciliation bill passed weeks ago.

Lowest unemployment in history.

More jobs created than the previous administration already.

No president with a D beside his name could get the right wing nut jobs to get vaccinated and get this pandemic under control. They are willing to die for their cause...whatever that is these days. Something about somebody named Brandon I guess.

I'll agree with you on the remain in Mexico policy. It's barbaric and that will work itself out in the courts.

Just like insisting the former guy won the election...people saying things won't make them true.

I'll also agree that 2022 midterms will be interesting for sure. The former guy is on his way to completely screwing over the Rs with his crazy endorsements and loyalty tests.

The clowns that will win these primaries will really struggle in the general. Remember "I'm not a witch" lady from DE and the "legitimate rape" guy from MO? They'll look normal compared to the Q and maga nuts next year.

It'll be fun to watch if nothing else.

I'm glad you seem to be reading and studying more. The only issue is your sources. But you stick with that and keep living in your bubble of make believe. It's good for the world.
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Hahahahha

Build Back Better is a reconciliation bill. It can only be passed with a simple majority in the Senate through a Parliamentary procedure known as reconciliation and without a majority, Manchin is on the record as a no, it isn’t passing. The House always passes on simple majority. Learn civics.

Not the lowest unemployment in history. Not even this decade. It was 3.5% in Feb of 2020.

More jobs created? Hahahaha When your starting point is coming out of lockdowns, it’s a pretty easy way to lie with statistics. Congrats for falling for it, you’re an obvious rube.

Brandon said he had a plan. Can you articulate it? So far, he only executed what Trump laid out for him. Now, he owns the Delta Variant and the Omicron. He said anyone who has killed that many people doesn’t deserve to be President. Why has he killed so many Americans?

Keep trying to focus on Trump. It seems to be a really great strategy. It’s the economy, stupid. People are paying $1000s more at the pump every year. Energy policy has people paying $100s more every month for home heating. Inflation is costing people $100s more every month in groceries and living expenses. The policies you voted for are literally hurting and killing people.
 
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Dmfdmd007

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lostinthelight said:
No president with a D beside his name could get the right wing nut jobs to get vaccinated and get this pandemic under control. They are willing to die for their cause...whatever that is these days.
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You know, I was in San Francisco last weekend….. amongst the things I learned was that on the left coast the antivaxers are …. “ hippie tech types” ….. as opposed to the right coast “ trump red necks” …..
Weird that the info is different in different places.
 
DvlDog4WVU

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lostinthelight said:
You know...the Mueller report very clearly said that while they could not prove direct collusion it did not clear the president of any wrong doing right?

Seriously...do you know that or not? It literally Saya that in the report.

Known facts include Don Jr "loving" to get information from Russia and attending the meeting to get it. It's also proven that Manafort shared internal polling with Russian agents.

You thinking the Mueller investigation cleared the president of collusion is like you thinking the OJ trial cleared OJ of murder.

The report showed many instances of obstruction of justice on top of all that. Of course none of it was prosecuted because Rs don't hold Rs accountable for breaking the law.

Of all the crazy stuff Rs do...referring to the Mueller investigation as clearing the president is one of the dumbest. It did the exact opposite.
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If it didn’t clear him, they would have tried to impeach him for it. Rs holding him accountable? The left owned the House. Nothing stopped them from lining up an impeachment, except evidence, facts, and truth.
 
dave

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lostinthelight said:
A riot that endangered our elected reps and interrupted the peaceful transfer of power was worth it to make me upset?

Interesting priorities there.

Totally normal thought process.

Not "radical" at all...
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Imagine being dumb enough to think any elected rep was in danger or that there was a delay in the transfer of power.

You are lost in your own ignorance.
 
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Darrin class of 1989

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lostinthelight said:
Cmon man. Climate change isn't real. It's not man-made and it's no big deal. It's just a radical liberal plot.

If we just ignore all the crazy weather events, science and damage it'll just go away like Covid did.

What we need is just bigger balls and better umbrellas.
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You know, this all breaks down when you look at historical patterns. It doesn't take a lot of research to see that all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again.

 
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lostinthelight

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DvlDog4WVU said:
Hahahahha

Build Back Better is a reconciliation bill. It can only be passed with a simple majority in the Senate through a Parliamentary procedure known as reconciliation and without a majority, Manchin is on the record as a no, it isn’t passing. The House always passes on simple majority. Learn civics.

Not the lowest unemployment in history. Not even this decade. It was 3.5% in Feb of 2020.

More jobs created? Hahahaha When your starting point is coming out of lockdowns, it’s a pretty easy way to lie with statistics. Congrats for falling for it, you’re an obvious rube.

Brandon said he had a plan. Can you articulate it? So far, he only executed what Trump laid out for him. Now, he owns the Delta Variant and the Omicron. He said anyone who has killed that many people doesn’t deserve to be President. Why has he killed so many Americans?

Keep trying to focus on Trump. It seems to be a really great strategy. It’s the economy, stupid. People are paying $1000s more at the pump every year. Energy policy has people paying $100s more every month for home heating. Inflation is costing people $100s more every month in groceries and living expenses. The policies you voted for are literally hurting and killing people.
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I was wrong on BBB. It was the infrastructure bill that passed a few weeks ago. My bad.

Your point about about job creation is the same on inflation. The pandemic has created that. It doesn't matter who the president is with that and gas prices.

You're a drama queen with the "killing people" bit. The only way out of the pandemic is vaccination.

Complaining about that while at the same time complaining about pushing vaccines is just totally duplicitous. You can't argue both.

Of course honest debate isn't the thing...screaming and hating your fellow citizens is.
 
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Darrin class of 1989

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lostinthelight said:
Where do you get your information?

The reconciliation bill passed weeks ago.

Lowest unemployment in history.

More jobs created than the previous administration already.

No president with a D beside his name could get the right wing nut jobs to get vaccinated and get this pandemic under control. They are willing to die for their cause...whatever that is these days. Something about somebody named Brandon I guess.

I'll agree with you on the remain in Mexico policy. It's barbaric and that will work itself out in the courts.

Just like insisting the former guy won the election...people saying things won't make them true.

I'll also agree that 2022 midterms will be interesting for sure. The former guy is on his way to completely screwing over the Rs with his crazy endorsements and loyalty tests.

The clowns that will win these primaries will really struggle in the general. Remember "I'm not a witch" lady from DE and the "legitimate rape" guy from MO? They'll look normal compared to the Q and maga nuts next year.

It'll be fun to watch if nothing else.

I'm glad you seem to be reading and studying more. The only issue is your sources. But you stick with that and keep living in your bubble of make believe. It's good for the world.
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Lowest unemployment in history?

You do realize that there are literally MILLIONS fewer people working now than when Trump was in office right?

If you call the loss of millions of jobs good, I guess that makes you a good liberal though. Anything for the cause I guess. Screw America and all you know.

Good grief
 
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lostinthelight

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dave said:
Imagine being dumb enough to think any elected rep was in danger or that there was a delay in the transfer of power.

You are lost in your own ignorance.
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Imagine riotors busting into the capital and chanting "hang Mike Pence".

How the hell can you just dismiss that. They had a gallows on hand.

Even the Foxbots new it at the time.
 
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lostinthelight

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Darrin class of 1989 said:
You might want to remember your history.

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See here's the difference between you and me.

I will tell you that was terrible and awful and anyone that was involved needed to be held accountable.

It's not left vs right. It right vs wrong. Regardless of political affiliation.

The right has become a cult where even obviously terrible events are marginalized to protect those on the right that were responsible.

Right is right and wrong is wrong. That concept has been set aside over the last 5 years.
 
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lostinthelight

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Darrin class of 1989 said:
Lowest unemployment in history?

You do realize that there are literally MILLIONS fewer people working now than when Trump was in office right?

If you call the loss of millions of jobs good, I guess that makes you a good liberal though. Anything for the cause I guess. Screw America and all you know.

Good grief
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Not true. And given the sources you're referring to its not surprising.
 
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GrimReaper82

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lostinthelight said:
I was wrong on BBB. It was the infrastructure bill that passed a few weeks ago. My bad.

Your point about about job creation is the same on inflation. The pandemic has created that. It doesn't matter who the president is with that and gas prices.

You're a drama queen with the "killing people" bit. The only way out of the pandemic is vaccination.

Complaining about that while at the same time complaining about pushing vaccines is just totally duplicitous. You can't argue both.

Of course honest debate isn't the thing...screaming and hating your fellow citizens is.
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Translation @DvlDog4WVU . You’re right and I’m a hypocrite
 
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Gunny46

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lostinthelight said:
You know...the Mueller report very clearly said that while they could not prove direct collusion it did not clear the president of any wrong doing right?

Seriously...do you know that or not? It literally Saya that in the report.

Known facts include Don Jr "loving" to get information from Russia and attending the meeting to get it. It's also proven that Manafort shared internal polling with Russian agents.

You thinking the Mueller investigation cleared the president of collusion is like you thinking the OJ trial cleared OJ of murder.

The report showed many instances of obstruction of justice on top of all that. Of course none of it was prosecuted because Rs don't hold Rs accountable for breaking the law.

Of all the crazy stuff Rs do...referring to the Mueller investigation as clearing the president is one of the dumbest. It did the exact opposite.
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Robert Mueller. Too fvcking funny. This is the second time John Durham has had to clean up his mess.
 
dave

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lostinthelight said:
I was wrong on BBB. It was the infrastructure bill that passed a few weeks ago. My bad.

Your point about about job creation is the same on inflation. The pandemic has created that. It doesn't matter who the president is with that and gas prices.

You're a drama queen with the "killing people" bit. The only way out of the pandemic is vaccination.

Complaining about that while at the same time complaining about pushing vaccines is just totally duplicitous. You can't argue both.

Of course honest debate isn't the thing...screaming and hating your fellow citizens is.
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The pandemic didn't create inflation Karen. Take an econ class.
 
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DvlDog4WVU

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lostinthelight said:
Your point about about job creation is the same on inflation. The pandemic has created that. It doesn't matter who the president is with that and gas prices.
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This isn’t an accurate statement. Pumping trillions of dollars into the economy devalued our currency. Actually, there are dozens of factors that play into it, but it’s not due to pandemic. To be fair, Trump owns some of this, but Biden’s policies waaaaaaaaaay exacerbated it.

Gas prices and energy prices are a direct result of his policies. They thought it would help sell the BBB for a cry for green energy. Same thing happened under Obama, but with him, gas prices already sucked, his policies just made them worse. Gas was $1.50, Biden’s policies pushed it to $3-$4-$5 depending on where you are. It went from great to horrific. That just pisses people off.

Home energy prices are again a result of his policies. We were an energy exporter under Trump. We’re now importing energy again and being reliant on the ME.

The irony in some of this is that the oil still gets moved. It just gets moved on trains. The stuff that was on trains, is now shifted to OTR. The stuff that was moving OTR is now delayed or costing more to move. His policies literally increased the carbon footprint and had a greater negative impact than what was in place.

Supply chain delays? This is partially the pandemic, but his policies are also causing it.

He’s pissed off the military so badly, you all can forget that vote for a generation.
 
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lostinthelight

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Gunny46 said:
Robert Mueller. Too fvcking funny. This is the second time John Durham has had to clean up his mess.
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You must not know much about Durham's case.

It's peripheral to anything on the Mueller case and is falling apart anyway.

Mueller excavated a vast pyramid of information and Durham is trying to say one of the shovels was illegal. No comparison.
 
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lostinthelight said:
You must not know much about Durham's case.

It's peripheral to anything on the Mueller case and is falling apart anyway.

Mueller excavated a vast pyramid of information and Durham is trying to say one of the shovels was illegal. No comparison.
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Hahaha, you have no idea who you’re talking to. It’s hilarious.
 
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WESTBGVA

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DvlDog4WVU said:
This isn’t an accurate statement. Pumping trillions of dollars into the economy devalued our currency. Actually, there are dozens of factors that play into it, but it’s not due to pandemic. To be fair, Trump owns some of this, but Biden’s policies waaaaaaaaaay exacerbated it.

Gas prices and energy prices are a direct result of his policies. They thought it would help sell the BBB for a cry for green energy. Same thing happened under Obama, but with him, gas prices already sucked, his policies just made them worse. Gas was $1.50, Biden’s policies pushed it to $3-$4-$5 depending on where you are. It went from great to horrific. That just pisses people off.

Home energy prices are again a result of his policies. We were an energy exporter under Trump. We’re now importing energy again and being reliant on the ME.

The irony in some of this is that the oil still gets moved. It just gets moved on trains. The stuff that was on trains, is now shifted to OTR. His policies literally increased the carbon footprint and had a greater negative impact than what was in place.

Supply chain delays? This is partially the pandemic, but his policies are also causing it.

He’s pissed off the military so badly, you all can forget that vote for a generation.
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and releasing 50 millions barrels of oil that the taxpayers already paid for in order to reduce the price of gas at the pumps is idiotic..
 
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