I do not agree with that as he is a 6'4 SG and he's coming here listed as an SG and will run the SG on our team.
Malik Monk
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Yes, that's what I think too. You obviously missed parts of the conversation. Read back and see what I was responding to at the start. I was responding to a poster saying he thought Monk could/would be the top PG prospect by next year's draft. I disagreed with that. Thats where this whole thing started. I believe he is a SG too. That's my whole point, he won't see enough minutes at PG this year (cause he's a SG) to stake that claim of the poster. Just read back and see for yourself.
I don't know why we get caught up into SG, PG , SF , PF/C. Stretch 4
It's five guys on the court. If this next class had KAT, boogie , AD. Would you try to fit them into what position they would play? I would have all three on the court as much as possible
I will say one thing. The "3" has always been the wildcard with a Calipari team
The 4/5 is universal way before he came to UK. Dorsey , dozier , taggert , CD-R , niles all played universally
After 7 seasons, you would
Think we as fans would stop analyzing
It's five guys on the court. If this next class had KAT, boogie , AD. Would you try to fit them into what position they would play? I would have all three on the court as much as possible
I will say one thing. The "3" has always been the wildcard with a Calipari team
The 4/5 is universal way before he came to UK. Dorsey , dozier , taggert , CD-R , niles all played universally
After 7 seasons, you would
Think we as fans would stop analyzing
Not a good example. Those three being on the court together for long periods of time would definitely be a bad idea. Terrible floor spacing and you'd be really slow. When people say positionless basketball, they mean having guys who can play multiple positions effectively, not just throwing five random guys out there.
I've seen Monk in action live several times. I was there for a different kid, but watching Monk was a sight to see.
Cal will need to get him more consistent from range. One of the most athletic kids I've seen, not real tall but he's long. . He reminds me of Russell Westbrook in terms of athleticism and body (besides the upperbody strength).
Cal will need to get him more consistent from range. One of the most athletic kids I've seen, not real tall but he's long. . He reminds me of Russell Westbrook in terms of athleticism and body (besides the upperbody strength).
Since our team will be a lot stronger under the basket this year compared to last with the bigs Cal has recruited and those coming back it will take a lot of pressure off the guards to do as much scoring compared to last years team. The inconsistent front court was definitely the weakness of last years team. Poythress and Lee were very sporadic in their play. Looking at our roster for next season I would bet the farm we will be a much better inside scoring team, rebounding, and possibly shot blocking as well.
Not to be argumentative but aren't you doing the same thing by same the 3 has been the wildcard on Cal's team?
If I had Boogie, AD, and KAT on a team, I highly doubt that all 3 would be on the court at the same time. I think people get too caught up with this position less basketball talk that Cal refers to. Nobody was talking about it before he mentioned it. Sure, there are players who can play multiple positions and I think that's what he means, not true position less basketball. If it was true position less basketball, you'd have KAT bringing the ball up the court and running the offense. It's more of a recruiting ploy than anything else.
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Like I said in my post , Cal had been playing unconventional players at 4/5 even the 3 waaaay before talk of position less basketball. Look at the players I've mentioned
He's listed as a combo guard, not a shooting guard. Means he can play both the 1 and the 2. If you've seen Monk's playmaking abilities, then you probably recognize how he's going to make his money at the next level. He could quite honestly be the best passer on the team from day 1, and that includes Briscoe. Off the charts passing skills, he just needs to focus on efficiency.
Just because he's going to play SG here does not mean he's a true SG. That's like calling Isaiah Briscoe a true small forward and not a point guard because he played the 3 at UK.
This is wrong just about any way you put it. Much more of an impact, much more skilled at the same stage. Not sure how you can compare Archie Goodwin and Eric Gordon anyway. Two way, way different players.
Yea if monk was like another archie then count me out couldn't stand goodwin's one season at UK. And to compare him with Gordon? Wait what! Where?
I actually think he's extremely similar to Eric Gordon. Did you watch Gordon in high school? I'm not talking about right now. He was projected to be a perennial all star type talent and just didn't really get there. Not a pure scorer but a super athlete, great slasher.
He reminds me somewhat of Archie athletically. Monk can handle it a bit better and not as big.
Not sure how you look at Monk and say "not a pure scorer" when he's a record-breaking scorer on the AAU circuit. Range from past the NBA 3, has a floater, terrific slasher, plays above the rim with ease, has a number of moves to get the ball into the basket at the rim. He has the ability to score in bunches in all 3 levels. I'm not particularly sure how that doesn't translate to being a pure scorer.
Gordon on the other hand really only had two tricks. The 3 point shot, and scoring at the basket. No in-between game, and he was limited as just a scorer.
I figure there are probably two reasons why Eric Gordon didn't become a phenom. 1st one is the injury, and the 2nd one is being a very undersized two guard (who had very, very limited passing abilities).
Monk could absolutely make his money as a point guard. If you haven't seen his passing abilities, it's on par with what you'd expect from an elite point guard prospect. The only deficiencies with Monk are always giving 100% on the court (which Calipari fixes year in and year out with players), and making efficient plays (which Calipari fixes year in and year out as well).
If Calipari coaches Monk the exact same way that he coached Jamal Murray, he could end up with the best all-around player in college basketball by the end of the season. Not just a scorer, he's a terrific all-around basketball player. Pair that with his insane athletic abilities, and you have yourself a player.
I misspoke and said 'scorer' when I meant 'shooter.' Monk is a bucket getter, no doubt. Man I'm not downplaying the kid literally at all, trust me.
And if you watch the arsenal Gordon had as a younger player, I do think they're similar. Monk is probably a little better shooter, for sure. Comparisons are fairly dumb in general if I'm being honest, so I sorta regret debating one haha?
Monk CAN hit shots out to that range, but if he shoots over 40% from 3 next year I will be very surprised.