Mac Brown returning to North Carolina
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I have heard the rumors, but awaiting final confirmation. Why do you consider it a head scratcher though? He was very successful at UNC before he bolted for Texas. He wants back in the game. Seems like a no-brainer more than a head-scratcher to me.
I think it’s its an awesome hire if he brings in Kliff Kingsbury and Gene Chizik.
1. At North Carolina, Mack went 10-2 in ‘96 and 10-1 in ‘97 finishing ranked #4 in the country.
2. Also I think Kliff Kingsbury just coached Manziel, Baker Mayfield, and Mahomes back to back. He will kill as an OC.
3. Gene Chizik is a huge name himself winning a national title at Auburn
4. Mack Brown can recruit with anyone in the country and he’s kept his name relevant by doing tv
1. At North Carolina, Mack went 10-2 in ‘96 and 10-1 in ‘97 finishing ranked #4 in the country.
2. Also I think Kliff Kingsbury just coached Manziel, Baker Mayfield, and Mahomes back to back. He will kill as an OC.
3. Gene Chizik is a huge name himself winning a national title at Auburn
4. Mack Brown can recruit with anyone in the country and he’s kept his name relevant by doing tv
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How old is he? Another deal where IF he can hire the right coordinators, it might just work. IF he dredges up some tired old cronies....well maybe not. I think he'll have a very easy time persuading good assistants to come work for him. He's very well known and liked. Parents are going to trust him. National perception of him is a bunch better than when he was at Texas. After what happened at Texas when he was forced out, I think people realize that Mac is probably a better coach than he was given credit for. IF I were a young up and coming coordinator, I would hitch my wagon to Mac in a heartbeat. Nothing to lose and if you do well there's a good chance your name is top of the list when Mac retires.
He is 67... Solich is 74 for what it’s worth..
NC hiring him back is the head scratcher, he hasn’t been a Head Coach for 5 years..
Did anyone let Eichorst know that Mack Brown wanted to be a Head Coach at Nebraska..
Wikipedia already has him being Hired as the new Head Football Coach at North Carolina.
He's two years older than Les Miles. I think it's a great hire. Brown's a proven program builder and he'll go do his thing then retire in 8 or 9 years.
Can you imagine Mack Brown as HC. He would bring in top recruits from Texas, Kliff Kingsbury would outscore everyone and produce Heisman candidate QBs, and Gene Chizik would produce a decent defense and help bring prestige back to the University.
I am completely happy with Frost but had he turned us down last year I think the above situation could have been a good one for us.
On the other hand, he hasn't just been sitting at home. He's had the opportunity to watch all kinds of different coordinators, practices etc during that 5 years. In some ways, it may help him more than having been his own guy for the past 5 years. He's not tied to any assistants and he's had plenty of opportunity to see lots of good young guys practice their trade.
LOL.....UNC is filthy as hell across the board with athletics.
Big difference imo. Mike Riley hadn’t won. Mack has won big there already.
I thought they'd hire the coach from Appalachian State. Seemed like a no-brainer.
Seems like a good hire to me. This isn't Auburn or Alabama or Clemson here, it's a basketball school. Mack is about as good as their gonna do IMO.
We would have been in a better spot if he had gone that way...but for the long haul maybe Riley was a blessing. Things worked out the way they were supposed to. Who knew that Riley followed by Frost could so unite a fan base.WinkingWinking
Or Frost could have taken over after years of Mack Brown recruits. Similar to Pelini taking over for Callahan except I think Mack would have won here.
Mack would have won enough probably to make it difficult to fire him and hire Frost IMO. That is why I think we should all be glad that Eichorst made Riley fire Banker. As mediocre to bad as Banker was, he was good enough and the players liked him enough that we might have pieced together 8 wins making really tough to can Riley. Our defense absolutely quit on Dicaco very early on. So...for a few years of pain, the plan all comes together now with the hottest young staff in college football.
But you know that Wikipedia is basically anyone on the internet updating a page, right? I'm not saying it's incorrect - just saying don't overly rely on Wikipedia especially when it comes to head coach changes.
The other possibility is Frost would have stayed at UCF for a while, Mack would have won here and recruited well, retiring after several years. Frost would then inherit an extremely talented team, possibly winning from day 1 instead of starting 0-6 his first season.
I am looking more at how his career at Texas ended and his age I agree he is much better coach and had a good career but his time has passed
You have to look at Texas before and after Mack too. It is a good place to recruit to but a hard program to run. You never really have full control of the program and there's always a lot of pressure. There's a reason they hadn't won a title since 1970.
I'm glad it worked the way it did. The 0-6 start of his Husker coaching career will make the story that much sweeter.
Manziel was Texas A&M and Baker wasn't around Tech long enough to make a name for himself.
I think you're dreaming a little too much. Frost turning us down last year would have been an unmitigated disaster from the fan perspective. Nobody else would have been acceptable. There's an awful lot of assumptions being made here that this could have happened. For one Kliff Kingsbury was still the head coach at Texas Tech last year. I mean, if we're dreaming this much, why don't we dream that Nick Saban left Alabama and came here? If you're completely happy with Frost, why don't you just stick with that.
Everything is an assumption. This made up scenario would also have Riley sticking around 1 more year, Mack and crew being hired this year, and Frost sticking it out at UCF long enough to take the Husker job after.
That “dream” situation is still a lot more logical than Saban leaving Bama for NU.
I am 100% on board with Frost. Get off my fandom bro!
Not getting on your fandom-I just don't understand why someone dreams up alternate scenarios if they're happy with the way things are. Keeping Riley another year after the disaster of a season he had would have damaged the program and the fan psyche so much, it would have taken years to overcome. That alone is a complete nonstarter to me.
Gee do we need the popcorn again?
Interesting. Good for Mack if that's what his heart is telling him to do
Interesting. Good for Mack if that's what his heart is telling him to do
Hope you didnt get the wrong impression with my post.I’ve been told on here that Mac Brown would have taken the Nebraska job If Bill Byrne made the choice instead of TO hand picking Frank Solich...
It’s all water under he bridge now after 20 years just happy as hell to have SF leading this program back to what it once was in college football..
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Frost was leaving UCF last year no matter what. I'm not buying that he wouldn't have taken 5 million form somebody other than NU to run their program. So IF Mac had won enough at NU to leave a talented team, he wouldn't go peacefully just so we could hire Frost. Mac doesn't want to be retired now. Why would he have retired last year if he had a winning program at NU?
Frost was leaving UCF last year no matter what. Frost leaving UCF last year was was not 100% certain. Sounds like he had a tough time with deciding to leave.
So IF Mac had won enough at NU to leave a talented team, he wouldn't go peacefully just so we could hire Frost. In this hypothetical situation, Mack would coach at NU for several years, retiring because he's an old, and Frost would take over for him
Why would he have retired last year if he had a winning program at NU? He's 67. He won't coach forever. If Frost stayed at UCF and had years of success similar to Boise St, then was able to take over an NU roster loaded with talent them we'd have a dream situation.
It's a hypothetical situation that has 0% chance of happening because it obviously did not happen. I didn't post this situation to find out if people think the scenario can actually happen... we already know that it can't. Can you imagine Frost taking over an NU roster loaded with talent like when Pelini took over for Callahan?
Regardless I'm happy we were able to get Frost, even with an 0-6 start this season.