M1 Abrams [GIF]
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That's a ridiculous hit. Dude is awesome. I just hope he doesn't ruin our season by getting ejected in a big game.
It almost looked intentional like he was ready to go home or something. Maybe he needed to go take a crap.
It almost looked intentional like he was ready to go home or something. Maybe he needed to go take a crap.
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McLaurin: WTF was that missile that just flew past me?
Love how this guy plays. I just want him to keep his head up while he's doing it.
Love how this guy plays. I just want him to keep his head up while he's doing it.
Honestly, one of the best parts of that awesome hit was when Moorhead hugs him. You think Abrams gives Mullen a hug after being ejected? Nope. Not happening. The relationships joe has built with these guys in a very short period of time is really nice to see. You can tell they actually care about each other. Get em grampa joe.
Was thinking pretty much the same. Mulling would have been scolding him like a child as Abrams walked away.
There's nothing awesome about that. It was dangerous and stupid. He's lucky that we don't play Alabama next week. And Moorhead wasn't saying good job.
All you who have succumbed to the new marshmallowized version of football and think this hit was worth a penalty i implore you to consider a few things:
Abrams is about 6foot 210lbs. Hes absolutely FLYING in this play. The opponent is also moving. Tell me how hes supposed to control where he hits the guy? Have you ever come close to running that fast? Do you have any concept of running with a helmet on? Theres no way abrams can control this. So whats your powderpuff answer? Slow down? So running fast is no longer allowed? Maybe the player should have stopped and allowed abrams to make the hit cleanly. Maybe we should just use a series of flags. The guy running raises a flag before hes going to make a hit. Runner stops for 3 secs allowing hit to be controlled.
Whats folks are suggesting is a dirty hit is nothing more than a very athletic move. If you're so worried about concussions then stop weightroom workouts. Then guys wont be as strong or in shape enough to run that fast.
Abrams is about 6foot 210lbs. Hes absolutely FLYING in this play. The opponent is also moving. Tell me how hes supposed to control where he hits the guy? Have you ever come close to running that fast? Do you have any concept of running with a helmet on? Theres no way abrams can control this. So whats your powderpuff answer? Slow down? So running fast is no longer allowed? Maybe the player should have stopped and allowed abrams to make the hit cleanly. Maybe we should just use a series of flags. The guy running raises a flag before hes going to make a hit. Runner stops for 3 secs allowing hit to be controlled.
Whats folks are suggesting is a dirty hit is nothing more than a very athletic move. If you're so worried about concussions then stop weightroom workouts. Then guys wont be as strong or in shape enough to run that fast.
I agree with everything you said but you have to play by the rules as they are, agree with them or not. If we had a big game this coming weekend the impact of him missing a half would be huge.
I’ll say again that #8 for KSU had been talking trash ALL GAME to guys on our team. Seriously, if you go back and watch the replay, there were no less than 3 times when the camera caught a couple guys jawing at each other after a play, and # 8 was involved every time. Typical little man syndrome stuff, and I have no doubt that State players were just waiting for an opportunity to send him out of orbit
While there have been a lot of targeting penalties I disagree with, this isn't one of them. Sometimes the runner bends down and the defender can't avoid hitting the runner in the head, but this wasn't one of those. Abrams lead with his helmet and smacked the runner in the helmet. This hit is exactly what needs to be stopped. CTE is too scary and stopping these hits will help. It's not like Abrams is thrown out for the season, it's just two halves. Good hustle, Abrams.
P.S. I'm not for turning the game into flag football. It's nearly impossible for a tackler to avoid touching the defender with any part of his own helmet. I've seen targeting wrongly called when the tackler clearly led with the shoulder and hit the runner in the ribs but the tackler also grazed the runner with his helmet. Also, that new NFL rule against landing on the QB with your body weight is stupid.
I think it it had been one foot lower it would have been a hell of a lot more dangerous for Abram. Just had his head too far down. If I were a coach, I'd be a hell of a lot more worried about that than him getting flagged or ejected.
Doesn't really matter whether fans have "succumbed" to the new rules or not. That hit was pretty much a textbook example of what gets you suspended for two halves.
Yeah that was a wedge or V or whatever you wanna call that group of 3 or 4 people collecting together to block.
But you answered my question. Thanks.
But you answered my question. Thanks.
Yep, words cannot do justice to the adrenaline that’s flowing through your veins during a football game, and that gets multiplied by about 50 during a kickoff. It was a dumb move to lower his helmet and launch himself, but these guys want to hit someone, and Abrams took his shot. Simple as that
Hopefully he’ll learn from it, but I think it’s safe to say that a lot of folks being critical have never been out there on the field
It's the helmet-to-helmet that's against the rules now, and he was absolutely in violation of that.
Also, we know a lot more about concussions than we did 20 years ago, so I totally agree w/ this rule.
Hit him w/ the same speed and aggressiveness, but don't collide helmets. It's the law.
Also, we know a lot more about concussions than we did 20 years ago, so I totally agree w/ this rule.
Hit him w/ the same speed and aggressiveness, but don't collide helmets. It's the law.
Then we should stop running fast. Thats really the only solution.
Go put in a helmet, run as fast as you can and try to tackle a moving target that can change direction in an instant....lets see if folks perception changes
Go put in a helmet, run as fast as you can and try to tackle a moving target that can change direction in an instant....lets see if folks perception changes
I played football, and if we lowered our head like that in practice, we got a lecture about how dangerous it was. If we did it in a game, we got yanked from the game and got a lecture about how dangerous it was. If they didn't catch it until film review, we got a lecture about it then. This at a time where coaches punished us for poor practice by taking away water breaks when the temp was in the high 90's with humidity in the close to the same, so it's not like our coaches were making us p******. It's just that a spinal injury is catastrophic enough that you try to tackle with your head up.
That was also at low level high school playing at about 1/10th the speed of what Abram plays at, so probably not as dangerous as what Abrams did (although obviously the weightlifting and natural strength for Abrams is on a different level, so maybe that offsets any increase in danger from the high speed at impact).
ETA: Not really in response to you, just pointing out that while the targeting rule might be new, it's not a new thing that a hit like that would be get a player in trouble and not one of the signs that football is being turned into a wimpy sport.
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He has his face down and wasn't even looking, just 17ing kamikaze with his helmet leading the way. No one teaches tackling like that, the same way no one teaches the duck-and-roll into the ankle method ole miss executed on Fitz. Both are stupid and dangerous for all people involved.
I think a lot of the new rules are stupid, especially regarding the quarterback, but plays like this are why they had to institute the targeting rule. This is how guys get seriously injured, and the reason why kids aren't signing up for football anymore. This was not bang-bang; he lowered his head to spear the guy.
We may know a lot more about concussions, but we still don't know **** about fumbling the ball forward out of the endzone resulting in a turnover though. I remember that costing us dearly in OT against Arkansas in 2010.
If we're gonna ***** about rules changing in football... how about changing one of the dumbest ones still out there.
If we're gonna ***** about rules changing in football... how about changing one of the dumbest ones still out there.
Sigh it’s a tough situation bc I don’t want him to change the way he plays. That’s why he is so good. I like his recklessness. The coaches will take care of it and coach him but we might just have to deal with a few more this season and take the bad with the good.
Didn't you hear? According to the gymdawg football handbook, when running fast one loses all cognitive ability and cannot physically raise his head to avoid leading with it.***
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I can promise you that if you have ever seen a player rolled off the field on a gurney with his life in the balance and a future of battling while living as a quadriplegic, then you will wish that you had watched golf that day.
A human being's vertebrae are not meant to withstand the level of sudden force impacted by such hits.
A human being's vertebrae are not meant to withstand the level of sudden force impacted by such hits.
the internal fear of a wr streaking across the middle has, and will always, impact the game as long as players like abrams is roaming the outfield. bustin chops every now and then and having a player of abrams reputation will, without a doubt, serve us well even if he never hits anyone like this again. we may even win a game because of the psychological effect, but i promise it will affect those we play. these soft wr's will think twice about going full speed into his territory and will no doubt hear footsteps even if abrams doesnt have them in the crosshairs. that is part of this game and an important one.
i dont condone anything other than heads up tackling, but that targeting stuff is nonsense. you and i are talking about two different things. his form could have been better, but the hit was incredible. its an inherently violent sport intended to be played that way...period. CTE and spinal injuries are entirely different concerns...obviously.
You have to keep your head up and quit leaving your feet. That's for the safety of both players. It isn't hard.
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