Lunardi on SECN..

[57stratdawg]

Talking MSU:

‘Gotta keep winning’
‘20 wins isn’t what it used to be’
‘Piling up good wins now’

On A&M:

‘I think it’s time to worry’
’Only once in modernn area made it 4 games Under .500 in conference play’
‘A&M will be chasing history if they don’t win 2 out of the last 3’
’7-11 likely means 2 wins needed in SECT’

 

[stateu1]

Talking MSU:

‘Gotta keep winning’
‘20 wins isn’t what it used to be’
‘Piling up good wins now’

On A&M:

‘I think it’s time to worry’
’Only once in modernn area made it 4 games Under .500 in conference play’
‘A&M will be chasing history if they don’t win 2 out of the last 3’
’7-11 likely means 2 wins needed in SECT’

Captain obvious

 

[FlotownDawg]

Was Stansbury the real reason behind A&M’s success? Since he left, the results have dropped off sharply. No excuse for a team that talented to miss the tournament.

 

[57stratdawg]

Indeed. A&M info was better.

 

[o_dawgnabit]

Our BPI is at 58 now

SOS at 74

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

A&M is in some trouble. There’s no way the team on the floor tonight wins two of their last three (@Vandy, @UGA, and Bama). They are going to struggle winning just one of those. Obvious as it may sound, if we keep winning everything else takes care of itself. Win the last three and we are probably in. Win the last three and take one in the SEC tournament and we are a slam dunk.

Damn, if things had gone just a little differently at Missouri and Vandy we’d be playing for seeding right now...

 

[She Mate Me]

We all know the problems with our resume, even at 20-8, but is there a team in the SEC playing with more effort or confidence right now? Is there a team playing better?

Just thinking out loud, not saying it's a fact.

 

[PineGroveBully]

The year we lost to UK in finals our tourney wins had no bearing

 

[tatedog]

The year we lost to UK in finals our tourney wins had no bearing

I've always felt like the committee almost ignored tournament games even though fans and prognosticators routinely place great value on them.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Just gotta keep winning, and I think we can.

 

[PineGroveBully]

Seems to be the case the last 10-12 years

 

[Bulldogg31]

I think we drank TAMU's milkshake tonight. They're out, we're in.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

I've always felt like the committee almost ignored tournament games even though fans and prognosticators routinely place great value on them.

I agree. I think by tourney time they already have 90% of the field set. They’re just left with seeding and if some unexpected team wins their conf tournament and gets an automatic bid.

 

[dickiedawg]

Mizzou also with a crushing home loss tonight. Now 50-50 to make the field according to BPI.

 

[KingBarkus]

We must win our next 3. The Tennessee game is huge, but beating lsu will be a challenge. That game may be for the final NCAA SEC spot.

 

[patdog]

I think Thur or Fri tournament games could be the difference between making the tournament or not. But once you get to Saturday, they committee has already pretty much set the field and it's hard to help or hurt yourself.

 

[PineGroveBully]

So their milkshake brought our boys to the yard?

 

[Junction John]

Seems the magic number is 24 wins.

Only four teams in history with 23 wins have been left out of the tournament*, but of course we were one of those. And I wouldn't bet against us being the first two-time loser.


*Major conference teams. There are a couple of small schools left out with more wins.

 

[KurtRambis4]

If we win

our next 3 games, to finish the regular season at 23-8 (11-7), then it was be absolutely ridiculous if we were left out.

That puts us somewhere around 3rd-5th in one of the top two leagues.

To me, that absolutely overrides any perceived joke of a pre-conference schedule.

 

[FlotownDawg]

Might not mean anything, but in the eyes of the selection committee, we would have 22 wins. They will look at that win over North Georgia like an exhibition game.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

I feel like if our losses get to 10, we won’t get in.

So we need to either win out, or win the tourney.

 

[1msucub]

So their milkshake brought our boys to the yard?

Vastly underrated comment alert

 

[tcdog70]

A&M is in some trouble. There’s no way the team on the floor tonight wins two of their last three (@Vandy, @UGA, and Bama). They are going to struggle winning just one of those. Obvious as it may sound, if we keep winning everything else takes care of itself. Win the last three and we are probably in. Win the last three and take one in the SEC tournament and we are a slam dunk.

Damn, if things had gone just a little differently at Missouri and Vandy we’d be playing for seeding right now...

the problem with the Aggies is they have no PG. Their PG last night had 0 assists. We have 2 really good PGs.

 

[wsjmsu75]

I feel like if our losses get to 10, we won’t get in.

So we need to either win out, or win the tourney.

I think win the last 3 regular season games and then at least one in the SEC tourney and we will be dancing.

 

[Go Budaw]

A&M is going to be a very interesting case study. They will probably still have a Top 40 RPI even if they lose all remaining games. They are still 25th now and only dropped 3 spots after a home loss to the number 71 team. Could easily get in with a 7-11 record in the SEC.

That’s what is so frustrating. We are clearly as good or better than A&M, Bama, and Arkansas, yet all of those teams are on extremely solid footing for making the tourney no matter what, where we are in an every-game elimination mode. And it is absolutely 100% because of our nonconference schedule.

 

[BiscuitEater]

On A&M:

‘I think it’s time to worry’

So called experts STILL have A&M in the dance. From ESPN .. "Texas A&M: The Aggies, losers of three straight, are still considered likely for an NCAA Tournament berth, but this one hurt, considering they entered the game having won 12 of their 14 home games. Their next two are on the road.

Both MSU (USCe, UT, @ LSU) & A&M (@Vandy, @ GA, Bama) have 3 games left. While I think State has a better chance of winning 2 of 3 than A&M, consider that both win 2 of next 3 .. HOW does A&M get in over MSU when ..


MSU wins 2 of next 3, finishes 10-8 with a win over A&M @ A&M
A&M wins 2 of next 3, finishes 8-10 with a loss @ home to MSU

 

[fishwater99]

So called experts STILL have A&M in the dance. From ESPN .. "Texas A&M: The Aggies, losers of three straight, are still considered likely for an NCAA Tournament berth, but this one hurt, considering they entered the game having won 12 of their 14 home games. Their next two are on the road.

Both MSU (USCe, UT, @ LSU) & A&M (@Vandy, @ GA, Bama) have 3 games left. While I think State has a better chance of winning 2 of 3 than A&M, consider that both win 2 of next 3 .. HOW does A&M get in over MSU when ..


MSU wins 2 of next 3, finishes 10-8 with a win over A&M @ A&M
A&M wins 2 of next 3, finishes 8-10 with a loss @ home to MSU

Just win out an all is well. Winning cures everything..

 

[KurtRambis4]

Ok, 22. The point still

stands, that our conference play and record overrides that other BS.

 

[FlotownDawg]

Because the committee looks at the whole season, not just conference games. I know most of us don't pay attention to pre-conference games because they're going on the same time as football season but they are just as important as conference. If we finish 10-8 and A&M finish 8-10 in conference, that's only a one-game swing either way, not a huge difference. But A&M has non conference neutral court wins over West Virginia, Oklahoma State and Penn State and a true road win at USC while we have a bunch of nothing. Not only did we play a bunch of crappy teams, we played them all at home, so we basically get no benefit at all from our non-conference schedule. If we miss the tourney, it's because of that.

 

[patdog]

If we finish 10-8 and A&M finish 8-10 in conference, that's only a one-game swing either way

That's a TWO game swing, not one. And that's over 10% of the season. It's a pretty big difference.

Because the committee looks at the whole season, not just conference games.​

One of their criteria is last 10 games.

Not only did we play a bunch of crappy teams, we played them all at home, so we basically get no benefit at all from our non-conference schedule. If we miss the tourney, it's because of that.​

Agree. Our non-conference schedule is pretty inexcusable. We'd be better off with a tougher OOC schedule, even if we lost a couple of games.

 

[dannyripms]

I was looking at different teams schedules and Auburn hasn't exactly played killers row. Their schedule is pretty similar to ours. If we would not have lost the ole miss, Missouri, vandy, and hung on to beat auburn at home, do you think we would have been as highly ranked?

 

[patdog]

That's the thing. You don't have to play killers row. Just don't play the absolute worst teams in Div. I. Auburn's OOC strength of schedule is #77. Ours is #306. Auburn has played 5 Category 4 games. We've played 9.