Luke Skipper

TulsaRising1

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What where his final stats?
How stupid of a coach can you be to start President over him?
 

Original TULSAFAN

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Yeah... sure...

Luke Skipper is the difference. Right.

I understand the moans about it... but this ship was going down regardless of who was behind center. Tulsa's defense is the worst in D1 --- and worst I've ever seen in my entire life at the D1 level.
 

TulsaRising1

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Yeah... sure...

Luke Skipper is the difference. Right.

I understand the moans about it... but this ship was going down regardless of who was behind center. Tulsa's defense is the worst in D1 --- and worst I've ever seen in my entire life at the D1 level.
Yeah... sure...

Luke Skipper is the difference. Right.

I understand the moans about it... but this ship was going down regardless of who was behind center. Tulsa's defense is the worst in D1 --- and worst I've ever seen in my entire life at the D1 level.
Yeah... sure...

Luke Skipper is the difference. Right.

I understand the moans about it... but this ship was going down regardless of who was behind center. Tulsa's defense is the worst in D1 --- and worst I've ever seen in my entire life at the D1 level.
I agree on the defense, but you honestly think President wasn't a problem at QB?
 

tupatsfan

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Original tulsa fan making a fool of himself once again? No one is saying QB wasn't the only problem...but it's been a HUGE problem. You really need to stfu and go back to your dungeons and dragons life as a virgin.
 
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TulsaRising1

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Original tulsa fan making a fool of himself once again? No one is saying QB wasn't the only problem...but it's been a HUGE problem. You really need to stfu and go back to your dungeons and dragons life as a virgin.
Our defense is the worst I have ever seen, at least our offense can start improving now
 

jesterondirt

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Kragthorpe, Graham, Blankenship, and now Montgomery have all had at least one season where everyone started to abandon ship. Im ok with seeing how this plays out. But only if Monty makes some coaching changes at seasons end.
 

sonofbird

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Krag’s 2nd season was nearly identical to his first. We won very close games his first season, and lost the close games his second. Graham’s lone losing season can be attributed to lack of an offense coordinator. Blank lost when he no longer had Graham’s players. Monty is losing with his own players. We’ve lost 2 very close games, and have been thumped in 3 others. We could be very well 3-3 as opposed to 1-5.
 

TulsaEye

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Yeah... sure...

Luke Skipper is the difference. Right.

I understand the moans about it... but this ship was going down regardless of who was behind center. Tulsa's defense is the worst in D1 --- and worst I've ever seen in my entire life at the D1 level.
The bad part its still getting worse.
 

HuffyCane

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We could be very well 3-3 as opposed to 1-5.
I have never understood the mentality that views this fact as an excuse or a positive. He is paid millions for the very fact that he purports to be in a unique cadre of highly compensated individuals whose sole job it is to win all of the games that are winnable with the available talent. When they don’t, they try to whine that it could have been worse without them. Bunk. We could be 1-5 with TUGrade06 out there ...
 
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TulsaEye

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The one thing Skipper does need to do is get in the weight room and get stronger. Especially his legs. Skipper isn't nearly strong enough yet. The defensive players were able to knock him around pretty easy.
 

red dirt

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Skipper will be great and everyone knew it. Carter does not need to play. Edminston is a liability and does not have the talent to play D1. Our defensive coaching is horrible. It is not about scheme now but rather the basics of tackling. These players cannot tackle.
 
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TulsaGrad07

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The one thing Skipper does need to do is get in the weight room and get stronger. Especially his legs. Skipper isn't nearly strong enough yet. The defensive players were able to knock him around pretty easy.

Defense needs to as well. We had their QB dead to rights yesterday in the backfield and the defenseman simply lunged and slid down him, allowing him to complete the pass with little resistance.
 

cmullinsTU

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Defense needs to as well. We had their QB dead to rights yesterday in the backfield and the defenseman simply lunged and slid down him, allowing him to complete the pass with little resistance.

Agreed. Same thing happened in Navy and NM games too. Their QB just ran right over our arm tackles.

Hard to explain because in the OSU and Louisiana games I thought the tackling was good just couldn’t stop the passing attack.
 

Gmoney4WW

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Agreed. Same thing happened in Navy and NM games too. Their QB just ran right over our arm tackles.

Hard to explain because in the OSU and Louisiana games I thought the tackling was good just couldn’t stop the passing attack.
It think it's something else. Because of injuries, because of game planning for an option team, and because the defense wasn't performing up to par, they were rotating new guys into the defense and new plans. The new guys are younger,(not as built) not as skilled, and not as adept at the new plans the coaches were throwing in. The coaches partly because of the players they recruited, partly because they had to go with the youth, partly because of their coaching ability, and partly because they aren't good at coaching as much on the fly, saw the defense fall apart at the seems due to injuries and player replacements. It's not just something that can be fixed in the weight room.
 
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TU_BLA

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Yeah... sure...

Luke Skipper is the difference. Right.

I understand the moans about it... but this ship was going down regardless of who was behind center. Tulsa's defense is the worst in D1 --- and worst I've ever seen in my entire life at the D1 level.
Yeah... sure...

Luke Skipper is the difference. Right.

I understand the moans about it... but this ship was going down regardless of who was behind center. Tulsa's defense is the worst in D1 --- and worst I've ever seen in my entire life at the D1 level.
Yeah... sure...

Luke Skipper is the difference. Right.

I understand the moans about it... but this ship was going down regardless of who was behind center. Tulsa's defense is the worst in D1 --- and worst I've ever seen in my entire life at the D1 level.
I agree on the defense, but you honestly think President wasn't a problem at QB?
They go hand in hand IMO. The QB couldn’t keep drives alive passing the ball. Teams not respecting the pass stacked the box and dared us to pass. We saw more 3 and outs and the defense was on the field more. Tulane had three possessions and TDs before 7 minutes had elapsed. Had we been able to sustain just 1 drive, that’s not the case. The defense is not good...the way to lessen that is for the offense to sustain more drives so the D isn’t on the field.
 

Gmoney4WW

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TW quote by Monty sounds promising for making Skipper the starter next game against Houston.

“I thought he played pretty well the rest of the game,” Montgomery said. “He’s got to clean up some little mistakes that cost us. Those are things that from a maturity standpoint we’ve got to grow from and get better.”
 

sonofbird

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I have never understood the mentality that views this fact as an excuse or a positive. He is paid millions for the very fact that he purports to be in a unique cadre of highly compensated individuals whose sole job it is to win all of the games that are winnable with the available talent. When they don’t, they try to whine that it could have been worse without them. Bunk. We could be 1-5 with TUGrade06 out there ...
There’s a zero percent chance that I’m excusing the product on the field or the results. Quite the contrary. I was replying to Jester in that he’s stuck with coaches during bad seasons. There’s no excuse for the product on the field. Losing close games is much more palatable than getting blown out by the likes of Tulane.
 
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TU 1978

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TW quote by Monty sounds promising for making Skipper the starter next game against Houston.

“I thought he played pretty well the rest of the game,” Montgomery said. “He’s got to clean up some little mistakes that cost us. Those are things that from a maturity standpoint we’ve got to grow from and get better.”


The only way that President should ever take the field at QB for uH is when we’re 50+ points ahead.
 
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goldenhurricane2

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I'm really afraid that we'll see President back out there on Saturday... I really hope I'm wrong though.

The offense looked completely different under skipper - the way it's supposed to look.
 

TULOYAL

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If that happens I will be leaving the stadium. It would be pure negligence and stubbornness at that point and I've seen that movie before.
 

goldenhurricane2

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If that happens I will be leaving the stadium. It would be pure negligence and stubbornness at that point and I've seen that movie before.

I want to be positive and say that there's no way it happens, but he's stuck with president for way longer than he deserved... so idk. I say it's 50/50 right now as to who we'll see at qb.
 

tupatsfan

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0% chance Skipper isn't the starter from here on out. President is done at QB barring an injury.
 

chito_and_leon

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Before we get too, too excited for the Skipper train, keep in mind that he had 1 big play but otherwise 39 yards in 4 drives before the game was completely out of hand. So while Tulane was still interested, he was kept mostly in check. He's a young guy, it's going to take a while.
 

goldenhurricane2

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Before we get too, too excited for the Skipper train, keep in mind that he had 1 big play but otherwise 39 yards in 4 drives before the game was completely out of hand. So while Tulane was still interested, he was kept mostly in check. He's a young guy, it's going to take a while.

Still better than what we've seen so far this year.
 
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TU_BLA

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I'm really afraid that we'll see President back out there on Saturday... I really hope I'm wrong though.

The offense looked completely different under skipper - the way it's supposed to look.
The WRs seemed engaged in the game which is a big difference.

Monty's confidence in Skipper's passing ability seems pretty apparent to me as the play calling changed once he entered the game. Add Stokes to the mix and I think you will see a game against Houston much like the offense played against them last year.

I still worry about our D against Houston. We have no answers on that side of the ball and no one capable of (or maybe willing) to make a big play.
 

goldenhurricane2

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I'm sure skipper isn't perfect yet, but he gives us a better chance than president. The only way we win anymore games is by outscoring the other team... and now we may have an actual chance at doing that to uconn and maybe temple. We'll know a little more after Saturday though.
 

Babe the Blue Ox_rivals

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I'm really afraid that we'll see President back out there on Saturday... I really hope I'm wrong though.

The offense looked completely different under skipper - the way it's supposed to look.

Coaches do unusual things in these situations. For example, Rader continued to start Gus week after week even though the Matheson kid had to come in and bail him out time and time again.
 
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chito_and_leon

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Maybe this is wishful thinking but it seems if you pull a guy as early in the game as Monty did, that it's "the switch". Not like Chad had played 3 quarters and Monty wanted to keep him from getting more discouraged.
 

drboobay

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Excellent point T. He switched due to poor performance.

At this point I would rather see Hefley than the Prez at qb.
 
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noble cane

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Coaches do unusual things in these situations. For example, Rader continued to start Gus week after week even though the Matheson kid had to come in and bail him out time and time again.

Gus survived 14 yrs in the NFL... where is Mathewson?
 

TulsaGrad07

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Before we get too, too excited for the Skipper train, keep in mind that he had 1 big play but otherwise 39 yards in 4 drives before the game was completely out of hand. So while Tulane was still interested, he was kept mostly in check. He's a young guy, it's going to take a while.

Don't forget that a couple wide receivers had passes bounce off their open hands and chest when found WIDE OPEN by Skipper at least twice. Our wide receivers left at least 2 TDs out there because they couldn't catch a cold. I thought he looked like a natural in there the way he releases the ball. Maybe because it was juxtaposed to President's passes, which seemed wobbly and lingered like a filibuster in mid-air until the defense got into place to knock the living crap outta our WRs or intercept.
 

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Defense needs to as well. We had their QB dead to rights yesterday in the backfield and the defenseman simply lunged and slid down him, allowing him to complete the pass with little resistance.
The other teams entire number skilled offensive players have been just walking or running right thru the Tulsa defensive arm tackles as a whole. Tulsa defense has no clue about tackling fundamentals mostly. That is on the defensive coaches.
 
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