We're going around in circles man. Like Zi said, you see it your way and I see it mine. Sounds likevan Eagles song.Man the way I look at it doesn’t change anything, you’re missing what I’m saying, I’m agreeing I’ve been disappointed with how we’ve fared in the tournament. The point is I’m disappointed because of WHEN we’ve lost (I.e. before the final four) not because of WHO we’ve lost to. The tournament is about how far you go. Not who you beat. Period. When we evaluate teams whether it be Kentucky or anyone we don’t look at things like “oh well that final four matters less cause they beat this many power 5 teams to get there” or “that elite 8 appearance was even better than the other one cause we beat so and so”. We just look at how far they went.
I’m just trying to say it’s a pointless stat, I’m not trying to comment on or defend our tournament runs. For example, in 2019, if we missed one shot at the end of the game we lose to Houston. If we make one shot at the end we win against Auburn. But alas, we beat Houston and lost to Auburn because of 1-2 shots here and there. That has nothing to do with what conference those teams were in, both of those games were equally close and we won one, and we lost one. Auburn being “power 5” wasn’t the reason we lost to them but beat Houston.
Main point is: why evaluate a team’s tournament success or lack thereof on who they’ve beaten, rather than how far they go?
Sidenote: the tournament is also just somewhat of a shitshow, which is clearly evident after the last few days. Not satisfied with no final fours since 2015 but still, it’s not like it’s just been a travesty. Couple plays here and there, ball bouncing a certain way, PJ Washington not shooting 8-20 from the FT line, we’re having a different convo. There’s no excuse for this year (although none of our rivals even making it to the sweet 16 makes it less ****** and I’m willing to give Cal a chance), but to act like we weren’t right there in 2017 and 2019 is just being narrow-minded.
Again man, this is mostly subjective. You’re clearly over Cal which is fine, I’m willing to give him a shot to turn it around. No right or wrong way, being a fan is subjective and we choose how we wanna be one.
But it is a stat that is telling and you're pretty wrong on the part where you said "it's about how far you go and not who you beat". Well, maybe to you, but if the 2014 team won the title, we would brag about that run for a hundred years.
2014 beat Kansas State, undefeated WSU, Louisville, Michigan and Wisconsin, most in dramatic fashion. Are you telling me that that is equally as impressive as beating Buffalo, Wofford, Abilene Christian, WSU 2017 and Houston 2019? Come on now.