Same script every loss go down large early absolutely horrific substitution patterns. Come back with solid defense well why aren’t we playing that way early instead of leaving guys wide open for uncontested 3 pointers in all of these first halves. This is on Pikell start out with good defense don’t leave your men to hedge!!!
Loss on Pikell
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Buddy, the team showed no energy in the 1st half. MJ and carter were getting beat for lobs over the top. Losing rebound battles. Losing loose balls. Sloopy turnovers. That's not on Pike. For one of the first times all season the effort was not there in the 1st half. Him putting in Doucoure actually sent a message and seemed to inspire the team in the second half
It absolutely is on Pike.
It is his job to have the team fired up and ready to go out there to make the dance.
Last night's comments were the firsat time I've really seen much fewer about the players and a sizable majority about the coaching. It felt like 90-10% to me.
Maybe it was the almost last straw, maybe it was the last 2 plays, maybe it was the contract announcement.
At some point, you can't just keep finding ways to lose these games. Whether its pre-game prep, not challenging in game (players OR refs), sub-pattern system, or just not coming up with a good offensive plan and doing the same over and over. Something is missing.
We create helter-skelter , which always seems to get us going then we get close and he pulls the guys out and goes static...
He's the coach and this team is too good to keep losing all these games away from the RAC.
Maybe it was the almost last straw, maybe it was the last 2 plays, maybe it was the contract announcement.
At some point, you can't just keep finding ways to lose these games. Whether its pre-game prep, not challenging in game (players OR refs), sub-pattern system, or just not coming up with a good offensive plan and doing the same over and over. Something is missing.
We create helter-skelter , which always seems to get us going then we get close and he pulls the guys out and goes static...
He's the coach and this team is too good to keep losing all these games away from the RAC.
The circus is back in town since all the CLOWNS are here!
You know what is missing and what we really needed last night? A senior to grab the F-ing ball and say this is on me i got this. This just shows how good pikiell is out of timeouts. We finally have a time where pikiell could not control the situation and it got ugly. As good as geo has been late in games, yesterday he was awful. With the game on the line with no timeouts he got lost. Regardless of what we want to see and what we want to hear, we are a young team showing all of the symptoms of a young team.
The thread title is "Loss on Pikiell" according to these certain few every loss is on pikiell. It comes to a point where you start becoming the boy who cried wolf....
Exactly what I saw...No one wanted the ball to make a shot in the last possession.
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Cant fault pike for that, thats on the kids to get up. You can fault pike though for being a very x’s and o’s coach. Easily the worst in the big ten by a mile
The lame excuse of being young has been used for decades .Bottom line the players need to be held accountable along with the coaching staff.for the woeful performances on the road.Long suffering fans have been waiting for almost 30 years for one NCAA bid.
it is not a lame excuse to call players young. You know those great mid major teams that win games in tournements? All juniors and seniors. You know the great bg 10 and big east teams majority junior and seniors. There is about 3 teasm in the country who are consistently good with all freshman and sophmore teams.
Unfortunately this isnt about the long suffering fans. You want to fire pikiell go ahead. just keep in mind this will only make your problem worse. look at indiana they havent been to tournement since tom crean was fired. it is now taking archie to rebuild the program again.
RU started a graduate senior, a senior and a junior last night. Not that young.
Let me get this straight. We lost by one point on the road to the #16 team in the country, and we had a woeful performance on the road?
Yes, the first half we sucked, but it’s a 40- minute game. And of course the loss is on Pike — he’s the head coach — same as every win is on Pike too.
Yes, the first half we sucked, but it’s a 40- minute game. And of course the loss is on Pike — he’s the head coach — same as every win is on Pike too.
I think he's great coming out of timeouts and why I was screaming at the tv when he called that last one at 2:20 down 2.
So THATdecision was his and he has to own it. IIRC he did it at OSU too.
Energy comes from the top down. I don’t see Pike chomping at the bit telling these guys to go punch someone in the mouth.
In the Big Ten with what is on the line, he needs to tell these guys to ignore the ********, go out there and punch Penn State right in the fvcking face.
With the hatred for PSU at Rutgers he had an excellent opportunity to do something like that and make it sound very genuine.
He just has a very mid major way about him.
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Disagree. Pike is basically playing defense on ghost on the sideline, hes one of the highesg energy coaches out there. Just doesnt rag on the refs.
Ill never knock his energy
It’s a dumb comment. Shaq plays less than 10 minutes a game.
@kyk1827 i feel like I could snag a parking spot from Pike and he’d be like “oh well, I’ll get the next one 10 blocks away”
Underwood strikes me as the guy that would tell me to go **** myself. That’s who I want leading the program.
I understand this to an extent but if that PSU guy swings wide left by a few inches on that shot we are all looking at travel accommodations for March today instead of melting down. There’s still a shot
No dumber a comment than when we were starting 4 sophomores but the people who loved to bang that drum conveniently ignore that all 4 have a ton of experience at this point.
They’re still young. Not sure why you want to argue otherwise. Penn states top 8 in minutes last night were 3S/3J/1So/1Fr. We were 1S/2J/4So/Fr.
He needs to rag on the refs and get a technical called and maybe for once we will get some respect and some calls from the refs
Ok..how many mins does JY play who's a Jr. In his 4th year? That doesn't count either I suppose. Miles red shirted and was with the team all his frosh year too and this is the last few games of the season.
Only thing "dumb" is the constant excuses.
I heard pike on BTN describe his team as young using the number of years each guy has been at Rutgers and playing. That's bs.
Totally discounting years played at Texas, stony brook, practicing as red shirts...
Well all of the RU malcontent posters are coming out of the woodwork after last nites heartbreaking loss.
Now Coach Pike, our best HC in 30 years, is the problem for MBB?
If the last 3 point shot from PSU doesn’t go down they would be singing his praises, along with the rest of us. Whatever happened to living and dying with our team?
Some of these malcontent posters appear to be fake RU fans imo. Can’t call them front runners because we haven’t been there very often.
Now Coach Pike, our best HC in 30 years, is the problem for MBB?
If the last 3 point shot from PSU doesn’t go down they would be singing his praises, along with the rest of us. Whatever happened to living and dying with our team?
Some of these malcontent posters appear to be fake RU fans imo. Can’t call them front runners because we haven’t been there very often.
Sorry. They are inexperienced young whatever. I get no one likes excuses but it is what it is. No reason to be stupid about it.
I am a huge Pike supporter, but the 1st half trend over the past month is absolutely on him. We have all been saying for weeks that the team needs to bottle up the energy it shows in the last 10 minutes of the game, and apply it during the entire game. And yet we see the same exact pattern repeating itself game after game after game, with the team failing to defend the 3-pt arc and falling behind by double digits in the first half.
At some point, the coach has to take responsibility for either (1) not motivating his players enough in the first halves to have the same energy level they have had in the second halves; or (2) not doing the proper scouting to see how teams are going to attack us in the first half. Pike usually makes good adjustments at half, but, by now, shouldn't he already KNOW what each team is running in the first half?
Yes, the first half doldrums are ALSO "on" the players, no doubt. But Pike needs to lead and teach these kids how to approach these road games.
At some point, the coach has to take responsibility for either (1) not motivating his players enough in the first halves to have the same energy level they have had in the second halves; or (2) not doing the proper scouting to see how teams are going to attack us in the first half. Pike usually makes good adjustments at half, but, by now, shouldn't he already KNOW what each team is running in the first half?
Yes, the first half doldrums are ALSO "on" the players, no doubt. But Pike needs to lead and teach these kids how to approach these road games.
The criticism comes because of the brainfart...he went away from what was working and took the guys out and after coming back to get to 51-50, it went to 60-50 in 4 minutes, he reinserted the previous lineup and RU came back again
it was a WTF that killed us. I think RU gets the lead earlier or does not have to work as hard. We were absolutely shutting them down. Jacob Young does need a breather
it was a WTF that killed us. I think RU gets the lead earlier or does not have to work as hard. We were absolutely shutting them down. Jacob Young does need a breather
I hate to break the news to fans, but frankly, PSU contributed as much, if not more to the 2nd half comeback with bad coaching, bad sub patterns and allowing players to get into foul trouble late in the 1st half. I know common sense would indicate that it was poor coaching by RU that contributed to being down 21....but fans are entitled to opinions, even if they are cliche and sound like soundbites.
RU doesn't have front end Top half of the B1G talent....they've improving and getting better through player development. You really cannot crush coaching, unless fans believe we have better players vs our opponents night in and out vs our B1G competitors....especially on the road, which most nights as of now, isn't the case
I believe RU has B1G mid-level talent, Top 8th to 10th ranked type, but not in the realm of Ohio State, MSU, Michigan, Indiana, Maryland. Penn State is in a position where they have a dominant senior in Stevens, who helps bring their mid-level talent, up a level or two. The ultimate goal is RU to get there in a next year or two, with the current improvement of the core group and potentially supplemented by some transfers or other players in the next 2 offseasons.
RU doesn't have front end Top half of the B1G talent....they've improving and getting better through player development. You really cannot crush coaching, unless fans believe we have better players vs our opponents night in and out vs our B1G competitors....especially on the road, which most nights as of now, isn't the case
I believe RU has B1G mid-level talent, Top 8th to 10th ranked type, but not in the realm of Ohio State, MSU, Michigan, Indiana, Maryland. Penn State is in a position where they have a dominant senior in Stevens, who helps bring their mid-level talent, up a level or two. The ultimate goal is RU to get there in a next year or two, with the current improvement of the core group and potentially supplemented by some transfers or other players in the next 2 offseasons.
Very true. Pike is probably squeezing as much out of this group as anyone. Doubt Calipari, Coach K, Self, (insert highly regarded coach) would do more in the same spot.
Pike was responsible for at least these 3 losses in the past few weeks
Last night by once again not having the team ready to play the entire first half, with his crazy substitutions, and with playing Doucoure at all. We lost all momentum with Doucoure, and even though we made another run, it wasn't enough.
Sunday, by losing the game in the first 7 minutes by letting Reuvers absolutely abuse Carter. Reuvers scored more in the first 5 minutes of the game than he did in the entire first game at home. It set the tone for the game and we never really threatened after that.
The Michigan game at the garden by continually double-teaming Simpson resulting in wide open shooters or a wide open big man down-low. He stuck with that strategy even though it burned him the entire game.
stop. Shaq is a senior but should not be starting. Unsure why pikiell does it but he doesnt move the needle. We all know johnson is the most talented big man on the team. a sophmore. and Aquasi is a grad transfer with no big game experience.