Looks like Perry is a goner

EvanstonCat

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Wonder who we will poach to replace him...
 

Gocatsgo2003

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Retweet from Brother Rice's twitter page earlier today makes things a LITTLE more interesting, but seems like there's WAAYYY too much smoke right now for there to be no fire.

In the YouTube video linked below, Perry seems to reaffirm his Northwestern commitment starting at about the 37:30 mark, but that video went up on 1/30. INTRIGUE!!!




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Watch Grant Perry '15 confirm his commitment to Northwestern University, Go Wildcats! Also a great segment about... fb.me/3u5yC4Zvk





This post was edited on 2/2 1:35 PM by gocatsgo2003
 

EvanstonCat

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Shred of hope????

Warrior Football þ@BroRiceFBCoach 1h1 hour ago

Watch Grant Perry '15 confirm his commitment to Northwestern University, Go Wildcats! Also a great segment about... http://fb.me/3u5yC4Zvk

From his coach?????? Of course, amongst a ton of tweets saying Perry is Blue.

FWIW, Perry's twitter page still has him as an NU commit, but so did Sina's for 48 hours after he bailed.
 

villox

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Except that he also followed Greg Mattison and Jay Harbaugh. Doesn't look good.
 
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Good. This is what NU gets. I have a friend who is an ND fan and him and I argue constantly about the state of NU. Two years ago I said they were on their way to becoming a perennial B1G contender. He has always been of the opinion that NU is a "loser program" and always will be one. I don't want to use that term per se, but after two less than mediocre years in a row, no changes to the coaching staff, sub-par recruiting, and no upgrades to the facilities other than a bigger scoreboard, it's hard to disagree with him. The last two commitments just reaffirm that to me. Hate to say it, but it's becoming more and more true to me every passing day.

*cue the message board police telling me off*
 

villox

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Originally posted by chicagocatfan24:
Good. This is what NU gets. I have a friend who is an ND fan and him and I argue constantly about the state of NU. Two years ago I said they were on their way to becoming a perennial B1G contender. He has always been of the opinion that NU is a "loser program" and always will be one. I don't want to use that term per se, but after two less than mediocre years in a row, no changes to the coaching staff, sub-par recruiting, and no upgrades to the facilities other than a bigger scoreboard, it's hard to disagree with him. The last two commitments just reaffirm that to me. Hate to say it, but it's becoming more and more true to me every passing day.

*cue the message board police telling me off*
Boy, you nailed it! If only we had addressed each of the items you listed, we definitely could have prevented a player from joining 2 of his best friends to play for a star coach at his dream school.

So if it turns out that he didn't flip, I presume your point becomes entirely invalid?
 

villox

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Originally posted by EvanstonCat:
Nevermind, links to a video published Jan 30. Old news.

He gone
Well the video is old but the tweet was new. And the high school teammate who tweeted it out earlier has deleted it. Could be because Perry told him to until he has a chance to tell NU, or could be because he was mistaken. We'll see.
 

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Originally posted by villox:



Originally posted by chicagocatfan24:
Good. This is what NU gets. I have a friend who is an ND fan and him and I argue constantly about the state of NU. Two years ago I said they were on their way to becoming a perennial B1G contender. He has always been of the opinion that NU is a "loser program" and always will be one. I don't want to use that term per se, but after two less than mediocre years in a row, no changes to the coaching staff, sub-par recruiting, and no upgrades to the facilities other than a bigger scoreboard, it's hard to disagree with him. The last two commitments just reaffirm that to me. Hate to say it, but it's becoming more and more true to me every passing day.

*cue the message board police telling me off*
Boy, you nailed it! If only we had addressed each of the items you listed, we definitely could have prevented a player from joining 2 of his best friends to play for a star coach at his dream school.
Plus, if only we had addressed each of the items listed, we could have beaten a "winner program" like Notre Dame this past November. Oh wait, we did beat them. Sucks for them, I guess.

This post was edited on 2/2 2:32 PM by beetlemania74
 

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Losing Perry would sting. We haven't recruited nearly as well as we need to at the WR position the last 2-3 years, but Perry would be an exception.
 

willycat

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villox, hey maybe NU should have offered that "star coach" and they would all be coming to school in Evanston.
 

Gocatsgo2003

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Originally posted by willycat:

villox, hey maybe NU should have offered that "star coach" and they would all be coming to school in Evanston.
What makes you think Northwestern could have offered enough money to get Harbaugh to come to Evanston (probably over $5MM annually) even if they wanted to?
 

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I said this would happen--that Harbag would wait until the very last minute so opposing teams didn't have time to respond.
 
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maybe fitz could fly there

Losing perry is huge along with Allen.
this class started out so well but an awful season is having the affects that me and others pointed out.

This whole program stems on thorson now.not sure if he has the proper coaches to excell.
 
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So you're supposedly an NU fan, and it's good we lose a recruit to Michigan, which by the way has had three mediocre years in a row despite infinitely more athletic resources than NU? Whatever, man. And Notre Dame, with all the hoopla and supposedly top 10 classes, has been the epitome of an underachieving program for the past 20 years. I take no crap from those jokers.

This post was edited on 2/2 3:27 PM by pawildcat
 

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Can anyone confirm he is going to Michigan, nothing definitive from what I have seen so far???
 
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I know duke pays coach K well and he is a star coach.
nu doesnt have a commitment to football. Other private schools have paid dearly (notre dame, usc, stanford).

Its not who we are. If our football team can shoot for about 4 bigten wins and nab them every once in a while under fitz then thats fine.
 

Fitz51

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Originally posted by willycat:

Oh, that's right NU is just about bankrupt, forgot.
Do you understand anything about how spending and allocation of funds work at universities, or do you just like tossing out ridiculous one liners?
 

Gocatsgo2003

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Originally posted by willycat:

Oh, that's right NU is just about bankrupt, forgot.
Where did I say that NU is "just about bankrupt?" Is it really that outrageous to think that we don't have the same financial resources they can offer at Michigan, which would include commitments to the head coach, the salary pool for his assistants, recruiting, and everything else?
 

Gocatsgo2003

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Originally posted by Turk:
I know duke pays coach K well and he is a star coach.
nu doesnt have a commitment to football. Other private schools have paid dearly (notre dame, usc, stanford).

Its not who we are. If our football team can shoot for about 4 bigten wins and nab them every once in a while under fitz then thats fine.
Duke has also made a TON of academic concessions to remain a top basketball program, which you shouldn't anticipate happening at Northwestern anytime soon. Notre Dame and USC have RIDICULOUS alumni support that we don't have at Northwestern. Stanford has garnered the support of one particularly generous donor and has leveraged their world-class education and campus.

You really think anyone is "shooting" for 4 B1G wins? The entire program is "shooting" to win B1G conference titles. However, given our academic, fundraising, and other systemic limitations, the reality is that our baseline for success in every year is probably 6.5 wins overall and 3.5 B1G wins.
 

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It really doesn't need confirmation. UM was his dream school all along. There was not much question that he would flip if offered.
 

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I agree that he's likely gone, which is something I've been nervous about for a while, but interesting that he tweeted about the offer but not a commitment.

Still a thin shred of hope that we keep him. If he comes to NU I think he plays a lot next year.

Assuming he flips, I think we should offer Trent Green Jr.
 

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Looks like Perry is a WINNER!

He doesn't want to go with coaches that didn't value his athletic skills until the last minute out of desperation. He want's to go with the team full of bright kids whose coaches choose to offer him early. We choose coaches who really want him!

He doesn't want to play with a bunch of brain-dead dummies who will drag him down from achieving his academic goals. He doesn't want to play with dumb stumps majoring in general studies who will wind up being bouncers and car dealers after college.
 
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Re: Looks like Perry is a WINNER!

Originally posted by Gladeskat:
He doesn't want to go with coaches that didn't value his athletic skills until the last minute out of desperation. He want's to go with the team full of bright kids whose coaches choose to offer him early. We choose coaches who really want him!

He doesn't want to play with a bunch of brain-dead dummies who will drag him down from achieving his academic goals. He doesn't want to play with dumb stumps majoring in general studies who will wind up being bouncers and car dealers after college.
This is exactly why I hate the stereotypical Northwestern fan
 
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Im sure we dont really shoot for 4 big wins.

But given the academic restrictions, 4 big wins should b the unwritten bar. I think fitz really could have raised it to walker levels, and still may but we have to win bowl games to sustain recruiting.

We make that 4th down play against osu and we just might have turned the corner. Then the union stuff and injuries and its back to the drawing board.
If thorson is healthy and good, we really could get back to 5 BIG wins this year.
 

Gocatsgo2003

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Originally posted by Turk:
Im sure we dont really shoot for 4 big wins.

But given the academic restrictions, 4 big wins should b the unwritten bar. I think fitz really could have raised it to walker levels, and still may but we have to win bowl games to sustain recruiting.

We make that 4th down play against osu and we just might have turned the corner. Then the union stuff and injuries and its back to the drawing board.
If thorson is healthy and good, we really could get back to 5 BIG wins this year.
4 wins is "Walker Levels" -- he achieved that four out of seven seasons (57%). Fitz has achieved it 33% of the time. Nobody is arguing that Fitz doesn't have work to do.
 

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Re: Looks like Perry is a WINNER!


Originally posted by chicagocatfan24:
Originally posted by Gladeskat:
He doesn't want to go with coaches that didn't value his athletic skills until the last minute out of desperation. He wants to go with the team full of bright kids whose coaches choose to offer him early. We choose coaches who really want him!

He doesn't want to play with a bunch of brain-dead dummies who will drag him down from achieving his academic goals. He doesn't want to play with dumb stumps majoring in general studies who will wind up being bouncers and car dealers after college.
This is exactly why I hate the stereotypical Northwestern fan
What exactly did I write that wasn't true?! I've seen both sides of the academics issue in sports, dude. There is a HUGE difference between NU and programs like Michigan and Pitt with horrible graduation rates and worthless, BS majors. Pitt players told me about the apathy towards academics by most players and how much they hated it. That's where I got the "bouncer and car dealer" line...because that's what most players became after leaving Pitt.

Michigan is far from the program they once were, where the starting lineup would have several future doctors and lawyers. Now it's full of flunkies and felons who want to talk about their F*ck lions. (Google f*ck lion or their rape scandal) EVEN HARBAUGH HIMSELF SAID THIS ABOUT MICHIGAN!

Programs like Minnesota and MSU have cleaned up their sorry academic act recently under Kill and Dantonio while improving their academic performance. Hopefully Michigan can do the same under Harbaugh. Until then, they're still two clowns short of running a circus there.





This post was edited on 2/2 5:56 PM by Gladeskat
 

Styre

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ND might get more viewers from the NBC contract, but NU (and every other B1G school) gets more TV money annually than Notre Dame does.
 
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