Logan Smothers injury?

Hastings_Husker

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He left last night's game in the second quarter and didn't return, anyone hear what happened? Hopefully it wasn't anything serious like a knee or shoulder injury.
 

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Its not a knee or shoulder. He won't have any issues by the time he arrives in Lincoln. But it sucks for him and his team. It probably cost them a State Title, and it may halt Smothers from being named the Alabama's Mr. Football.
 

WoodRiverJennings

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Damn. Feel bad for him and his team. Pretty much ends their state title hopes. Pinson Valley is going to slaughter them without Smothers.
 

frankluv

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Seems like most of our recent QB recruits get hurt late in their HS seasons. That's football.
 

BHeinDaHuskers

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Its not like Frost is going to play anyone but Martinez (unless its due to injury) for the next two years anyways so he will have plenty of time to heal.
 

schuele

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Its not like Frost is going to play anyone but Martinez (unless its due to injury) for the next two years anyways so he will have plenty of time to heal.
I know this is a popular narrative, but I see McCaffrey making a run at the starting job this spring. I could be completely wrong, but I think McCaffrey will, at a minimum, split time with Martinez next year.
 

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Saw this on another board. If true, this shows amazing toughness, but it also seems a little reckless. Those are some pretty serious injuries to be playing through.

"After reading what this kid went through (collapsed lung, 7 broken ribs, hip pointer) and returned the next week and managed to play 3 quarters and almost pull out a playoff win (not being able to run or throw really) is EXACTLY the type of selfless competitor this team needs. With his mindset and athletic ability, this boy is going to put a lot of heat on AM, NV, and LM."
 
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I know this is a popular narrative, but I see McCaffrey making a run at the starting job this spring. I could be completely wrong, but I think McCaffrey will, at a minimum, split time with Martinez next year.
I agree. People are too hard on Frost about the QB situation this year, myself included (sadly, which I regret). Because the fact is Frost did develop specific plays for Luke ... plays that were very successful. It is clear, therefore, that he recognizes Luke’s athleticism and skill set and wants to use them. So my guess is that even if Martinez is our starter next year, we will see a lot of Luke as well. And given that Martinez seems a bit smitten with the injury bug, we will probably see Luke start a few games.
 

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I agree. People are too hard on Frost about the QB situation this year, myself included (sadly, which I regret). Because the fact is Frost did develop specific plays for Luke ... plays that were very successful. It is clear, therefore, that he recognizes Luke’s athleticism and skill set and wants to use them. So my guess is that even if Martinez is our starter next year, we will see a lot of Luke as well. And given that Martinez seems a bit smitten with the injury bug, we will probably see Luke start a few games.
Don't forget that Luke got time in four late games this year. It's not like he was ready to go out and just run the full offense day one. 5 wins sucks but I agree with the decision to keep Luke's redshirt, I also love the decision to rep him at WR so they can get him on the field.

It's a different offense if Luke is your QB. His ceiling as a passer is not as high as Adrian's at this point. His ceiling as a runner is higher than Adrian's.

To be fair, Adrian's (probable) injury limited his accuracy and made it a wash because he wasn't accurate this year either. But the *idea* of the offense is that there are a lot of accurate, timing throws that need to happen such as the bubble screen action on the RPO and pure accuracy is not Luke's strong suit.

It's an offense that has a lot more "automatic" reads than something like a WCO. It's a lot of counting the numbers and "If they go here, you throw there" stuff pre-snap. So you gotta be able to put the ball where it goes when it goes there.

IMO Frost wants something in the neighborhood of a 50/50 run pass ratio. That ends up looking like 30-ish pass attempts per game. For Luke to be successful that has to change, he needs to be a 20 attempt guy where you're running to set up play-action and he's running lots of zone-read and triple option where the third option is NOT a throw out into the flat.
 
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Don't forget that Luke got time in four late games this year. It's not like he was ready to go out and just run the full offense day one. 5 wins sucks but I agree with the decision to keep Luke's redshirt, I also love the decision to rep him at WR so they can get him on the field.

It's a different offense if Luke is your QB. His ceiling as a passer is not as high as Adrian's at this point. His ceiling as a runner is higher than Adrian's.

To be fair, Adrian's (probable) injury limited his accuracy and made it a wash because he wasn't accurate this year either. But the *idea* of the offense is that there are a lot of accurate, timing throws that need to happen such as the bubble screen action on the RPO and pure accuracy is not Luke's strong suit.

It's an offense that has a lot more "automatic" reads than something like a WCO. It's a lot of counting the numbers and "If they go here, you throw there" stuff pre-snap. So you gotta be able to put the ball where it goes when it goes there.

IMO Frost wants something in the neighborhood of a 50/50 run pass ratio. For Luke to be successful that has to change, he needs to be a 20 attempt guy where you're running to set up play-action and he's running lots of zone-read and triple option where the third option is NOT a throw out into the flat.
Great analysis. I agree
 

schuele

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Don't forget that Luke got time in four late games this year. It's not like he was ready to go out and just run the full offense day one. 5 wins sucks but I agree with the decision to keep Luke's redshirt, I also love the decision to rep him at WR so they can get him on the field.

It's a different offense if Luke is your QB. His ceiling as a passer is not as high as Adrian's at this point. His ceiling as a runner is higher than Adrian's.

To be fair, Adrian's (probable) injury limited his accuracy and made it a wash because he wasn't accurate this year either. But the *idea* of the offense is that there are a lot of accurate, timing throws that need to happen such as the bubble screen action on the RPO and pure accuracy is not Luke's strong suit.

It's an offense that has a lot more "automatic" reads than something like a WCO. It's a lot of counting the numbers and "If they go here, you throw there" stuff pre-snap. So you gotta be able to put the ball where it goes when it goes there.

IMO Frost wants something in the neighborhood of a 50/50 run pass ratio. That ends up looking like 30-ish pass attempts per game. For Luke to be successful that has to change, he needs to be a 20 attempt guy where you're running to set up play-action and he's running lots of zone-read and triple option where the third option is NOT a throw out into the flat.
Agree with all your points. I just don't think Frost felt McCaffrey would be anywhere near ready to unseat Martinez this season, so he decided to redshirt McCaffrey. Based on everything we saw from Martinez in 2018 - from the great plays to the bad freshman mistakes - that seemed like a very reasonable decision at the time.

But somehow people grab onto the fact that Frost wouldn't bench Martinez in favor of Noah Vedral and turn it into some sort of edict that says Frost will never, ever start anyone else as long as Martinez is at Nebraska. Maybe that will turn out to be true, but I guess I'm not enough of a breathless Vedral fan to buy it without further evidence.