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[BELdog]

You can call it whatever you want. Personally, I'd use the same term to describe a man that is mentally incapable of accepting that he may need more than his wit and smart *** mouth to save his life one day.

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

BELdog. Did you graduate?

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

BELdog... i hope i don't run into you at the game your ego is threatening. I'd would have to use my second amendment rights against you.

 

[BELdog]

I fail to see the relevance of my education level to the topic at hand, but no. I went to Iraq in 2005. Got back. Spent one more semester at school and decided it wasn't something I wanted to pursue.

 

[DerHntr]

Only people who can legally carry. That means only sober people

I'm sorry jerhreaux. I was trying to give you a thumbs down and accidentally gave you a thumbs up. Fat fingers today on the iPhone. My bad.

 

[HotMop]

Just did that at Sea World.

 

[BELdog]

If you are threatened by another man's opinion maybe you don't need to carry a firearm.

 

[Tin Cup Cowboy]

Some of y'all just love to over react. I can't tell you the last time I left my house without a firearm

We are the ones that are overreacting?

I can't imagine walking around in my day to day life with so much fear that I need to carry a weapon to a football game.

 

[mstateglfr]

This thread is full of so much great!

Loving it. Simply loving it.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Found him!

One word come to mind for those that need to carry a weapon, and it rhymes with wussy.

Toughest guy on the Internet.

 

[BELdog]

I'm not afraid of anything. I just don't hide from the reality of the world around me.

 

[johnson86-1]

I honestly feel sorry for you if yo have to walk around with a gun on your side to "feel safer".

That seems like a kind of a ****** attitude to take. I actually appreciate other people carrying because I don't want to deal with the hassle and I get to free ride off of them.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

No problem. Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully you only bow hunt.

 

[maroonmadman]

Some of y'all just love to over react. I can't tell you the last time I left my house without a firearm, sporting events included. As far as "highly trained law enforcement" vs "lightly trained civilians", that's a full-on crock of ****. You can go get ten cops from any jurisdiction in the world right now and three of them won't even be able to disassemble their weapon to clean it properly. Three of them won't pass weapons qual on their first attempt. Maybe two of them have ever trained to shoot on the move and from behind cover/concealment. Maybe one of them has ever for an incident such as an active shooter in an environment like a football stadium.

This is the real world and people don't just make a habit of shooting rival fans, players and coaches over a sporting event. If you want to spend the rest of your lives walking through metal detectors, carrying clear bags and giving up your ability to defend yourself in an effort to "feel safer" than by all means, go ahead. I'm not living that way.

I'd rather take my chances with law enforcement than some guy who has met the minimum requirements and had the money for the concealed weapons permit. I know many guys at work who have these permits and I'd bet you 80% of them can't field strip nd clean their weapons either OR go practice on a regular basis. I know a guy who can disassemble and reassemble, his 1911A Colt .45 auto blindfolded, but I sure as hell don't want him to shoot it that way. I'm going to work now without packing a weapon. While I'm gone please tell us all about these everyday threats that are so numerous that I need to pack a piece to a football game over. I'll reply when I return later on tonight.

 

[BELdog]

I guess you missed the guy driving his truck into a crowd of people this week. Take a look at the crime stats in Jackson if you want to look at the smaller scale. The fact that you have never been put in a dangerous situation before does not mean that it won't happen. The truth of the matter is that YOU are the only person in the world that is responsible for your safety. If you can't take that seriously, no argument I make is going to change your mind. I'm prepared. My family is prepared. Quite frankly, that's as far as my concern extends.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

One word come to mind for those that need to carry a weapon, and it rhymes with wussy.

one word also comes to mind for people that turn pale white and almost faint at the sight of a firearm. And it rhymes with your word.

i carry a highly concealed firearm wherever I go. I am a enhanced conceal carry permit holder. Why? Because I then can protect my family, people around me, and myself from daylight muggings and robbery like what happens at west main Walmart in Tupelo, random thugs shooting at random people in Columbus, and a GD random terrorist that may try to run me over or stab me on a bridge like in London.

Open carry people are idiots. I grant people that. You remain a wolf in sheeps clothing and not be an obvious first target.

Now who exactly is the "wussy" that would **** on himself and watch a mugger perhaps hurt or kill your spouse, kids, hell even a random other person and not be able to do a damn thing about it.

But.. but... but.... but... we can't let random people carry guns!!! Ok, let's have the same discussion about how easy it is for a teenager to get a drivers license and legally drive a corvette or a V8 Mustang and Camaro.

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

nope right the opposite... Using your logic It is my right to carry and if i feel threatened by you or your words if aggressive i can legally put you down... and that is the underlying problem... if you can't grasp this then i can't fix stupid. Prevention is what is needed... otherwise you will end up with friendly fire, proper authorities not knowing who is who, and multiple people dying. a f-ing sheet show. Outright ban in arenas has worked fantastic for the NFL, NBA, and NHL in the modern era. While I appreciate your service... this isn't Facking IRAQ. However, if interested i'll pay you to guard my tent from LSU fans.

 

[BELdog]

At this point I'm writing you off as too ignorant to carry on a rational conversation. You are right not to carry a firearm because you do not have the mental capacity to know when or how to use it. The world is safer when certain people carry firearms. It is also safer when certain people DON'T carry firearms.

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

If you feel the need to protect me and everyone then by all means apply for a job in security at the games.

 

[MSUDawg25]

I'd rather take my chances with law enforcement than some guy who has met the minimum requirements and had the money for the concealed weapons permit. I know many guys at work who have these permits and I'd bet you 80% of them can't field strip nd clean their weapons either OR go practice on a regular basis. I know a guy who can disassemble and reassemble, his 1911A Colt .45 auto blindfolded, but I sure as hell don't want him to shoot it that way. I'm going to work now without packing a weapon. While I'm gone please tell us all about these everyday threats that are so numerous that I need to pack a piece to a football game over. I'll reply when I return later on tonight.

The fact of the matter is if you live in battlefield America, one day you WILL be murdered. Whether or not you choose to flex your 2nd amendment boner and murder back is up to you. Unless you're an immigrant, then GITOUT!
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[BELdog]

I've never said I felt the need to protect you. My job is to protect myself and my family. If I save other lives in the process, so be it.

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

if you don't feel safe in the game broseph don't go.

 

[ArcherSPS]

This is the real world and people don't just make a habit of shooting rival fans, players and coaches over a sporting event. If you want to spend the rest of your lives walking through metal detectors, carrying clear bags and giving up your ability to defend yourself in an effort to "feel safer" than by all means, go ahead. I'm not living that way.

First thanks for your service. Regarding the fans, they have been known to make a habit out of physically assaulting rival fans due to alcohol and other substances, what would stop some hot head from pulling out his weapon instead of his fist? Second, the metal detectors don't bother me I've been to so many pro games and I'm glad that they're 17ing there for my protection and others. Third, the clear bag thing does not bother me, since I don't carry a bag in the first place.

Look, I get where you're coming from, but let's be real allowing people to carry guns into an alcohol/emotionally fueled environment like a SEC football game is an accident waiting to happen. Not everyone is a responsible or sensible gun owner, nor do they have the temper to allow them to do so. I can honestly say that I trust a police officer a lot more than a random fan to protect to the peace at a football game.

 

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[T-TownDawgg]

No problem with open or concealed carry. Own several guns myself. Some ******* rolls up on my house, car, or family acting a fool, get off my lawn mode activates and he's a dead mother17er.

Protect your home and family. May God bless you. But crowded public areas are different, and if you don't see that, you are ignoring facts.

Sports arenas are no place for err'ybody to be packing. Talk to your knowledgeable and trusted law enforcement public servant. **** goes down, and it'll be chaos; weapon discharge logistical nightmare. If I know that every jackass redneck or thug with 20 dollas for the permit is packing I will not be there. If I am wrong please point it out with evidence and tact in order to keep this dialogue open.

 

[BELdog]

I have no desire to "protect the peace at a football game". Nor do I have any desire to drink at a football game or any other crowded event with a bunch of people that I don't know. I like to keep my mind clear at such events, though last season certainly made me want to drink at some games. What I do care about protecting is myself and my family as we walk to and from games through a few shady areas. Parking lots and dark streets are the perfect place for a robbery or an assault. And yes, fans do get hot-headed. Yes there are people that go to far, but do we really want to live in a society that treats us all like the lowest common denominator in the name of public safety? I can honestly say that I don't.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

I don't think there has been a single situation

Where someone having a gun in a football stadium would have made a situation better. Now how many situations would that have made worse? Let's go with basically every single one of them.

 

[mcdawg22]

Some of y'all just love to over react. I can't tell you the last time I left my house without a firearm, sporting events included. As far as "highly trained law enforcement" vs "lightly trained civilians", that's a full-on crock of ****. You can go get ten cops from any jurisdiction in the world right now and three of them won't even be able to disassemble their weapon to clean it properly. Three of them won't pass weapons qual on their first attempt. Maybe two of them have ever trained to shoot on the move and from behind cover/concealment. Maybe one of them has ever for an incident such as an active shooter in an environment like a football stadium.

This is the real world and people don't just make a habit of shooting rival fans, players and coaches over a sporting event. If you want to spend the rest of your lives walking through metal detectors, carrying clear bags and giving up your ability to defend yourself in an effort to "feel safer" than by all means, go ahead. I'm not living that way.

I have to ask. When you go to the beach do you clip it to your bathing suit? Do you put it in a plastic baggie? Do you feel like it hampers your golf swing. Do you always dribble gun side to avoid a reach in foul/accidental discharge? What happened at Pine Lake?

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

Using your logic It is my right to carry and if i feel threatened by you or your words if aggressive i can legally put you down... .

Stop right there. That is false.

 

[MaroonNation]

Haha. We went in there yesterday. The semi auto .50 cal on the counter is on sale! Only $11,999.00. Honest to God, Vann may be a great dude but he will never make a penny off me. His prices are egregious. Academy sports in Flowood is my go to gun and ammo supplier. They will also match and beat any price by 5% in the event you can actually find someone cheaper. Even online.

 

[ArcherSPS]

But dude, not everyone has the same mindset as you. Not everyone is clear minded during a football game. There are thousands upon thousands that drink before, during, and after games.

 

[MaroonNation]

So they won't let Bully in, but a gun is OK?

That's only at War Memorial in Little Rock. Bully is welcome in Fayetteville.

 

[BELdog]

I don't go to the beach. I've had enough sand in my life. I don't play golf. I don't play basketball. I shoot. I fish. I hunt. I work. That's what I like to do. Shooting is my favorite past time.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

I think you are mistakenly lumping conceal carry permit holders in with criminals. I carry, and I drink, but never at the same time. It's crazy to think people who obey the law and who go through the trouble to obtain a permit to legally conceal carry will all of a sudden decide to become criminals and drink while carrying, and then on top of that start shooting people. It is possible to watch sporting events without drinking. It's also possible to leave your gun at home if you decide to drink.

 

[DerHntr]

No problem. Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully you only bow hunt.

Nope. There are a lot of points made in this thread that people can agree or disagree with easily. Your comment that all conceal carriers would miraculously not drink before going in the game is insanity though.

 

[MaroonNation]

I was against concealed carry but the fact that so many nut jobs and coocks are running around with cc permits imade me apply for one just so I can protect myself from them. What makes me hesitant about ever pulling my gun in defense of someone else is that fact that you aren't always sure who is the aggressor and who is the aggressee. If I walk up on two guys in a gun fight and one is protecting himself from a person with criminal intent how do I know which is which. I've never felt the need to protect myself at a football game. Having said that though terrorists get more bold everyday and a football game would be one of the biggest soft targets known. I work in a hospital and those have also been identified as a soft target. The hospital will fire me if they find that I have brought a gun to work as an employee. Even if you are cc or enhanced carry.

 

[ArcherSPS]

I think you are mistakenly lumping conceal carry permit holders in with criminals. I carry, and I drink, but never at the same time. It's crazy to think people who obey the law and who go through the trouble to obtain a permit to legally conceal carry will all of a sudden decide to become criminals and drink while carrying, and then on top of that start shooting people. It is possible to watch sporting events without drinking. It's also possible to leave your gun at home if you decide to drink.

I never once said that. You're purposely ignoring the fact that not all gun owners are responsible, nor are they all the same mentally or emotionally. Not everyone thinks the same way as you, as impossible as that sounds.

 

[mcdawg22]

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No problem. Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully you only bow hunt.

 

[BELdog]

I wonder how many of y'all would stop going to games entirely if you knew how many concealed firearms were inside Davis Wade on Saturdays in the Fall. How many folks have been shot inside Davis Wade? The argument that concealed carriers are going to get into drunken altercations and start shooting people over petty disagreements just doesn't hold water. It would have happened already.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Tell that to

100+ folks in France that were mowed down by some maniacs in 2015. I'm sure they'd disagree with you, but we'll never know really, seeing as how they're dead.