LOCKED - MSU student killed last night

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xxxWalkTheDawg

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What does it take for this to be a hate crime...

not happening. Remember the guy who was beat to a pulp in the West Point Waffle House because the group wanted revenge for the thug shot in Ferguson MO? Was not pursued as a hate crime. Not even considered by law enforcement. Met all criteria? Yep. The correct PC situation exist for it to be considered? Nope.
 
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00dog

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May need to start doing like Memphis does with Beale and do a small cover to get on the street. Or ID and walk through metal detector before you can even get on the street.

One court has ruled against Memphis on the cover charge. Something about denying access to a public roadway. But I don't think there has been a problem with Memphis closing down Riverside Dr. and charging admission for Memphis in May. PC outweighs safety and common sense.
 

TUSK.sixpack

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not happening. Remember the guy who was beat to a pulp in the West Point Waffle House because the group wanted revenge for the thug shot in Ferguson MO? Was not pursued as a hate crime. Not even considered by law enforcement. Met all criteria? Yep. The correct PC situation exist for it to be considered? Nope.

That guy was a former Marine (like myself)… and a bro of mine.
Hate crime is reserved for specific cases and this one didn’t make the cut, apparently.
 

WeWonItAll(Most)

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hold up. Your "crew" saw it? What did they do? Try to help? Grab a 17n object to beat thug *** with? Or did they blow their rape whistle?

I dont know what it is.. maybe I was just raised a different way. But I'm not going to sit back and watch someone get beat to death while I "witness" it. that would be on my conscience as bad as anything.

that is exactly the mindset that lets areas get over run. Several easy targets bring opportunity for Theives and lawlessness. Exhibits A,B,C and so forth in this thread alone.

when I was at state there were 3 shotguns, 2 rifles, And 4 handguns in our apartment between the 4 of us. I would not have been a great day for someone to kick our door in at 1:30Am and demand wallets.

If if you are scared to walk the streets of Starkville... get you a 17'n pistol, get a permit, and take a class on how to use it, and practice at the range. I carry all the time and I don't want to shoot anyone, ever. But if some thug attempts to rob me... there will be no trial. I'm not going to be the one the coroner comes after either.

1) My crew was 2 dudes and three chicks.

2) it was 5 or 6 thugs beating the **** out of another thug looking dude on the other side of the street.

3) Nobody walks around with a damn gun while they're out on a Friday night in Starkville.

4) They got out in the road to wave down a cop moments after it happened. Maybe you would feel better if the guys would have gone on a three mile round trip dash to pick up their hunting rifles from the apartment and throw down some street justice??
 

BossDawg78

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I just hope the SPD isn't handcuffed on cleaning the streets around campus. As soon as they start confronting gangbangers congregated in that area, someone will claim "profiling". And in today's society there will be plenty of bleeding hearts ready to sympathize.

^^^^^

That's how they get ya. Amazing how that works, isn't it?
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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1) My crew was 2 dudes and three chicks.

2) it was 5 or 6 thugs beating the **** out of another thug looking dude on the other side of the street.

3) Nobody walks around with a damn gun while they're out on a Friday night in Starkville.

4) They got out in the road to wave down a cop moments after it happened. Maybe you would feel better if the guys would have gone on a three mile round trip dash to pick up their hunting rifles from the apartment and throw down some street justice??

Your post made it sound like it was a robbery of an innocent victim.

Per your third point.... wanna bet? Apparently street trash are carrying while out on Saturday night. When I'm there there is someone carrying. No one would know it though. There are probably a lot more like me too. I just don't carry while on campus for game day.

And per your 4th point.. it it was an innocent guy/girl getting robbed and beaten it's not "street justice". It would be called being a Good Samaritan. You pick up what you have access to at the scene and use it.
 

coach66

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Well something has to be done to breakup the loitering and intimidation that is

happening. We stopped going down there when we heard about what was happening with gangs from other cities using it for their war zone. Time to kick ***.
 

engie

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SPD had basically been told, previously, to stay out of the Cotton District. Don't blue light, don't hit the sirens, etc...

People in high places are going to feel heat from this and rightfully so. There is a really fine line to walk in the situation -- and I don't know exactly where that line is -- but more should be done.
 

coach66

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They really don't have a choice at this point if they want to reclaim the CD.

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thatsbaseball

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Law and order is the line and it`s not ambiguous. If the thugs know the place is patrolled and they will be stopped and frisked if they are loitering/looking for trouble they will thin out and eventually disappear. Political correctness is literally killing this country.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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Can you elaborate more on this point? Why would they be told to stay out of the Cotton District?

im all ears too. Where did this order come from?

Well we are getting an answer now as to why it was floated that Bulldog Bash was going to be moved from the district to campus now. Yep.. let's just surrender the district to lawlessness and intimidation.
 
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patdog

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SPD had basically been told, previously, to stay out of the Cotton District. Don't blue light, don't hit the sirens, etc...
What the 17 kind of boneheaded policy is this? Let's just not police a heavily used entertainment and residential district and hope nothing bad happens. If anything, that area needs to be where MORE police resources are used, not less.
 
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If if you are scared to walk the streets of Starkville... get you a 17'n pistol, get a permit, and take a class on how to use it, and practice at the range. I carry all the time and I don't want to shoot anyone, ever. But if some thug attempts to rob me... there will be no trial. I'm not going to be the one the coroner comes after either.

Isn't it against the law to carry while you are drinking or in bars or something like that? Regardless of the answer to that question, I think it would be a very bad idea for college aged kids to be going out and partying with pistols on their hips. I am all for guns, concealed carry, defense of yourself and your property, etc., but that is definitely not the solution under these circumstances.

This is the first I have heard about there being a heavy presence of local thugs in the Cotton District, and if it really has turned into the issue that some on here say it has, that is ridiculous......there is absolutely no excuse for that and Starkville's elected officials/law enforcement ought to have their feet held to the fire on how it got to this point and on getting it cleaned up immediately.
 

Shmuley

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The politicos are scared shitless of the race baiters. Simple truth.
 

The Riddler

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I completely agree that this is a terrible situation and those guys deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I must say however I love how the term thug is just another way of saying black on this board. I also love all these guys that say I have got a gun and nobody would get that over on me. First statistics say like 90 of guns bought for protection end up getting used on their owner. Second you have no idea how you would react at three in the morning drunk in a situation like that.
 

HotMop

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A quick FB stalk and the guy already has people supporting him.
 

LawDawg97

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Not that you'll ever be accused of posting anything accurately, but

I completely agree that this is a terrible situation and those guys deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I must say however I love how the term thug is just another way of saying black on this board. I also love all these guys that say I have got a gun and nobody would get that over on me. First statistics say like 90 of guns bought for protection end up getting used on their owner. Second you have no idea how you would react at three in the morning drunk in a situation like that.

Where in the world are you getting this statistic? I assume "90 of" means 90%? You are saying that for every 10 guns bought for protection, 9 of those ending up getting used to shoot the owner?

Your statement about thugs is also incorrect but no need to get into that. Also nice conclusion that those talking about using a gun for protection would be drunk in this situation.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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I saw that too..WTF is wrong with people? What is their damn reasoning for supporting him? I saw his aunt commenting on one post bragging about how good of a kid he was and was active military..
 

BossDawg78

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I must say however I love how the term thug is just another way of saying black on this board.

But what if it isn't? I've seen plenty of white or latino "thugs" - sometimes it's just a term used to describe obvious miscreants of society. That's your assumption. YOU brought the race into it, and does that make you better somehow?
 

Hoover Dawg

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You are correct BossDawg78. Thugs can be anyone, but yes, in Starkville MS, the likelihood of a "thug" being black is very high. That is just the reality of the situation and if anyone gets upset about that they are simply social justice warrioring.
 
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