LOCKED: Keenum: State flag will continue to fly at Mississippi State

[00dog]

Looks like our President has the courage to not jump onto the pc bandwagon. No need to rehash the pro & con on the State Flag. It is the State Flag. MSU is a State University. A state university should be required to fly the State Flag. I'm proud of my University for doing the right thing, and not taking the easy way out. Go State.

http://www.wtva.com/news/Keenum_State_flag_will_continue_to_fly_at_Mississippi_State_.html

 

[Bane.sixpack]

Agree!

 

[BigLeagueChew]

Good luck with that position. I'm sure with time, your viewpoint will prevail

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

He also said he supports changing it. He covered all fronts.

 

[Arloguthrie]

If it was courageous when MSU defied the state of MS by playing Loyola, then isn't continuing to fly the flag the opposite of courageous?

 

[QuaoarsKing]

17 us. We lose all credibility to ever call Ole Miss racist

 

[LawDawg97]

No. Not the opposite

If it was courageous when MSU defied the state of MS by playing Loyola, then isn't continuing to fly the flag the opposite of courageous?

But glad you think your school is finally courageous because it won't fly a piece of fabric that also flies atop the state capitol. Let us know when Dixie and the name rebels leaves your campus.

 

[Shmuley]

Keenum to Phil and Tater: Your asses better remember this when I ask for more state funding.

 

[11thEagleFan]

Yeah well that's just like... Your opinion, man.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

^This. It's all politics and posturing.

.

 

[Resolved]

Bingo. Good Lord I am so 17ing tired of this issue. And political correctness. Too much of that **** has created a political backlash, which was evident in the election yesterday (KY gov, CA sheriff) and I think that may be a good thing.

 

[T-45fixer]

It was a cry for help! He don't want to be the bad guy but wants it gone.

 

[00dog]

He also said he supports changing it. He covered all fronts.

If/when the State Flag is changed, I will support flying the State Flag; doesn't matter if I like it. The State Flag is the State Flag. The university doesn't get to choose the state flag to fly any more than it gets to choose the national flag.

 

[aTotal360]

I just hope he asks in the next 48 hours for more funding. Let ESPN get a couple reporters on the phone asking for interviews with Keenum and see how he cowers out of it. I fully expect him to have a written statement ready. He'll get roasted if he actually does an interview. I'm not one for being PC, but this is political move that makes OUR university look bad.

 

[57stratdawg]

That, ladies and gentlemen, is what it looks like when the University President puts his political aspirations ahead of what's best for MSU.

Sad.

 

[mount lefroy]

If it was courageous when MSU defied the state of MS by playing Loyola, then isn't continuing to fly the flag the opposite of courageous?

No. Defying the state's anti human stance on equal rights showed we did not embody what the symbol represents.

Flying the flag represents that we recogniZe that we are a function of the larger entity that is the state.

Flying the flag as a symbol of what you believe, ie segregation, is reprehensible. Flying the flag and proving by your actions that you dont believe in segregation is noble.

You know. The difference between our schools.

Actions vs ingenuine symbolic gestures. .

 

[was21]

Ironically, it may be political posturing from a guy who may have political aspirations. It could be interpreted as Keenum being politically correct when it comes to future elections in the state of Mississippi. At least he is on record of taking the damn thing down.

 

[aTotal360]

Do me a favor...get some of your mainstream media on Keenum's ***. That flag will come down by midnight.

 

[Shmuley]

Senator Keenum has spoken.

 

[BeardoMSU]

Yup. Embarrassing. Everything from him regarding the flag has been nothing but words, and shallow ones at that. OM and USM led the way, while we are treading water.

 

[Snog]

No. Defying the state's anti human stance on equal rights showed we did not embody what the symbol represents.

Flying the flag represents that we recogniZe that we are a function of the larger entity that is the state.

Flying the flag as a symbol of what you believe, ie segregation, is reprehensible. Flying the flag and proving by your actions that you dont believe in segregation is noble.

You know. The difference between our schools.

Actions vs ingenuine symbolic gestures. .

+1

 

[00Dawg]

Is there a transcript somewhere? This sounds like someone asked about the few flags we know about in an attempt to make a news item, then called the station.

 

[Tomas Smid]

Keenum is a realist. He knows that . . . .

if he took away the State flag a majority of MSU supports would scream bloody murder. He is simply playing to his fan base.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Here it is from the CL article. Does seem like an odd quote.

"The state flag of Mississippi is just that — it is the state flag of our state," Keenum said after addressing a group of students at Ocean Springs High School. "When I arrived at Mississippi State (in 2009), we had several (state) flags flying on campus that are still there today."The presidents at the University of Mississippi and the University of Southern Mississippi have ordered the state flag be removed from their campuses. The Mississippi Press reports Keenum said Monday he has no plans to issue a similar order.
"It is not my intent to step out and make any changes to the flags that are flying on our campus at this time," he said.
Keenum noted that subsequent to his personal statement several months ago supporting a change to the state flag, both the MSU faculty senate and the student government association adopted resolutions supporting a change.
"I think it's important for us as a university community to continue to be positive as far as change," he said, "not to be critical of anything or the values of anyone in our state. ... I think it's important for this generation, the current generation on our campus and for my generation that we have symbols that unite us and not be divisive. That's what I'm in favor of and that's what our campus community is in favor of."

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[karlchilders.sixpack]

All who complain, we just had an election process.

Where is your petition, seeking to put this on the ballot?

I'll vote to make the change, but NOT just at your whim.

Get it on the next ballot up, or it's your fault.

 

[o_fredgarvin]

That, ladies and gentlemen, is what it looks like when the University President puts his political aspirations ahead of what's best for MSU.

Sad.

+1

 

[GloryDawg]

Yup. Embarrassing. Everything from him regarding the flag has been nothing but words, and shallow ones at that. OM and USM led the way, while we are treading water.

We don't call ourselves Rebels, our band don't play dixie at games or our dance team isn't called the Dixie Darlings. It's the State flag and until it changes it will be our state flag. If you want it change pressure the politicians who don't have the nuts to change it.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Where is your petition, seeking to put this on the ballot?

I'll vote to make the change, but NOT just at your whim.

Get it on the next ballot up, or it's your fault.

I'm not sure if you're being serious, but I think it's really well-publicized that the initiative is making the rounds and thar the governor has asked the legislature to put it on the ballot in 2016 anyway.

It's highly likely we vote next Novemver, and it's pretty likely the flag is changed with explicit support of both parties.

 

[Dogariffic]

Embarrassed ....simply embarrassed.... In before the lock!

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Very serious, you just know more than me.


AND then what is your GD complaint?

 

[esplanade91]

Tired of this "the people voted on it!" comeback. The 2001 vote was dead on arrival, first off, then there's the whole Bryant changing the state seal last year on his own accord.

 

[BossDawg78]

Let us know when Dixie and the name rebels leaves your campus.

And the nickname "Ole Miss".

 

[codeDawg]

I encourage anyone who supports the rebel flag as part of the state flag to incorporate the rebel flag into their Facebook and LinkedIn profiles. Also, you should wear a rebel flag pin to work. The entire state is being forced to bear it in their image to the rest of the world through the flag. You should put some personal skin in the game.

The rebel flag on the MS state flag is nothing but a 17 you political statement that white people are still in charge in MS. That's what it was about when it was when it was adopted, that's what it means now.

Supporters are not as passionate about their veterans that fought in wars that saved and liberated millions of people around the world. We don't see any WWII imagery being preserved in our state symbols. They are all worked up about the the one that we fought to ensure black people were property so they could continue to be ultra profitable farmers.

 

[BigLeagueChew]

excellent post!!

 

[BiloxiDawg]

So maybe the state flag really wasn't the reason the color guard

is no longer part of pregame... could of fooled me. Interesting.

Looks like our President has the courage to not jump onto the pc bandwagon. No need to rehash the pro & con on the State Flag. It is the State Flag. MSU is a State University. A state university should be required to fly the State Flag. I'm proud of my University for doing the right thing, and not taking the easy way out. Go State.

http://www.wtva.com/news/Keenum_State_flag_will_continue_to_fly_at_Mississippi_State_.html

 

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