LJS article on AD

TruHusker

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I don't believe that John Cook's name is coming from Green so why is that a stupid statement? I know Greene enough to know that he's an extremely competent guy. I trust him to make this decision. If it's Cook, which I doubt, he took everything under consideration and decided he was the best man for the job. We either have to trust our administrators to do the hiring or our boosters. Which is the best way to go about things?
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I'm going to say that 99% of us on here, maybe more, wouldn't have a clue who the top 3 candidates should be. WE'RE NOT in that business. Maybe some of you are.
Exactly. I wonder how many have seen the job description? But some seem to know who have and have not applied.
 

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Then what was the rush to get rid of Moos? There was already a de facto interim A.D. with him. It isn’t like you were going to save money by waiting till November or doing it now.
is it a forgone conclusion that it was a rush to get rid of him? it's possible that we still don't know what the impetus was for them to push his retirement too.. without knowing, I just don't see why is has to be rush hire..
 
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is it a forgone conclusion that it was a rush to get rid of him? it's possible that we still don't know what the impetus was for them to push his retirement too.. without knowing, I just don't see why is has to be rush hire..
I suppose there is a chance it wasn’t a rush to get him out. However, when someone quits the don’t usually get a $3 million payout and they typically will get to set their own time frame. If he did something nefarious one would assume there would be no need for the payout. So while it may not be a forgone conclusion, all signs point to pushing him out.
Also, I don’t think it has to be a rush hire, but when your Employee “announces his retirement” on Thursday and his last day is Friday that is usually a sign that you A) have the replacement lined up or B) the employee did something bad enough to be forced out that would not result in his remaining contract being paid in full.
 

TruHusker

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Add to that he recently said he planned to remain through the full contract and his comment about the university deciding.

Simply, if someone quite/resigns you owe them nothing. If you want them gone, you pay up for the remaining amount on the contract to get them gone.

Whether they had someone waiting is another story. It would seem they did not which is OK, they wanted to get one thing done at a time and have good people in place to keep the ship floating so they could start this process and hopefully get it done before classes start. That is a guess.
 

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I suppose there is a chance it wasn’t a rush to get him out. However, when someone quits the don’t usually get a $3 million payout and they typically will get to set their own time frame. If he did something nefarious one would assume there would be no need for the payout. So while it may not be a forgone conclusion, all signs point to pushing him out.
Also, I don’t think it has to be a rush hire, but when your Employee “announces his retirement” on Thursday and his last day is Friday that is usually a sign that you A) have the replacement lined up or B) the employee did something bad enough to be forced out that would not result in his remaining contract being paid in full.
Completely logical.

the only thing that I thought was weird previously was when he came out and proclaimed he was behind Scott and made it clear that he would be here as long as he was the AD, and then started making 8 win predictions and such.. maybe he was just drunk those days and the leadership felt he might be an obstacle in the future..

It’s almost as if each party had dirt on the other, so we’re gonna fire you, but pay you to keep quiet type thing too..
 
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I suppose there is a chance it wasn’t a rush to get him out. However, when someone quits the don’t usually get a $3 million payout and they typically will get to set their own time frame. If he did something nefarious one would assume there would be no need for the payout. So while it may not be a forgone conclusion, all signs point to pushing him out.
Also, I don’t think it has to be a rush hire, but when your Employee “announces his retirement” on Thursday and his last day is Friday that is usually a sign that you A) have the replacement lined up or B) the employee did something bad enough to be forced out that would not result in his remaining contract being paid in full.
OR there was something that occurred that was embarrassing enough to the university that they wanted him to go and keep his mouth shut. I think that is unlikely but the only other scenario for me that makes sense is that Moos extended Frost without the blessing of his superiors and they want a new guy in should something serious need to transpire in the relative new future. The last thing you want is a lame duck AD hiring new coaches. I think the administration knows full well that the next 2 years are probably make or break for Frost if not this one. Moos probably painted NU in to a corner with the contract extension and the way this is going down makes me suspect that Green etal may not be happy about that. Just wild speculation on my part.
 

dinglefritz

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Completely logical.

the only thing that I thought was weird previously was when he came out and proclaimed he was behind Scott and made it clear that he would be here as long as he was the AD, and then started making 8 win predictions and such.. maybe he was just drunk those days and the leadership felt he might be an obstacle in the future..

It’s almost as if each party had dirt on the other, so we’re gonna fire you, but pay you to keep quiet type thing too.. ?
8 wins should be doable this year. I don't think Moos was out of line with that statement but I'm not sure Frost would have been happy with that bar to clear. The schedule this year is ridiculous and stuff happens. Our QB recruiting IMO has left us in a spot where if we lose Adrian for any extended length of time, we're probably in trouble. The only possible salvation would be if Masker would be competent enough to do the job because I just don't see Smothers or Haarberg being able to handle it this early in their careers. Do NOT like freshmen QBs.
 
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8 wins should be doable this year. I don't think Moos was out of line with that statement but I'm not sure Frost would have been happy with that bar to clear. The schedule this year is ridiculous and stuff happens. Our QB recruiting IMO has left us in a spot where if we lose Adrian for any extended length of time, we're probably in trouble. The only possible salvation would be if Masker would be competent enough to do the job because I just don't see Smothers or Haarberg being able to handle it this early in their careers. Do NOT like freshmen QBs.
We play 2 great teams this year, and 10 other teams.

This schedule stuff is pathetic. We play in an average (at best) division.
 
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OR there was something that occurred that was embarrassing enough to the university that they wanted him to go and keep his mouth shut. I think that is unlikely but the only other scenario for me that makes sense is that Moos extended Frost without the blessing of his superiors and they want a new guy in should something serious need to transpire in the relative new future. The last thing you want is a lame duck AD hiring new coaches. I think the administration knows full well that the next 2 years are probably make or break for Frost if not this one. Moos probably painted NU in to a corner with the contract extension and the way this is going down makes me suspect that Green etal may not be happy about that. Just wild speculation on my part.
I agree it is unlikely because in this day and age, if something embarrassing to the university took place, there would be a camera, a disgruntled someone or someone trying to make a buck with a video. Embarrassing never stays quiet.

As far as hiring coaches, what coaches? If they were going to pay him $3 mil to go away in 48 hours, this wasn't about a potential coaching change or a months salary, They could have set an July 31 date, started the process of hiring a new AD, had one in place and had a seamless transfer of power.

I just believe, they either have their guy and have to go through the legal hiring hoops, or the guy they thought they had said no.
 

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We play 2 great teams this year, and 10 other teams.

This schedule stuff is pathetic. We play in an average (at best) division.
According to many national pundits and analytics we have one of the top 10 toughest schedules in the country. One a few weeks ago said we had the second toughest schedule in the county. I agree however that other than OSU and OU, any of the rest of the schedule is beatable but many of those games will be 50/50 contests. We could end up anywhere from a 2 loss to a 7 loss team depending IMO on our QB play. :(
 

dinglefritz

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I agree it is unlikely because in this day and age, if something embarrassing to the university took place, there would be a camera, a disgruntled someone or someone trying to make a buck with a video. Embarrassing never stays quiet.

As far as hiring coaches, what coaches? If they were going to pay him $3 mil to go away in 48 hours, this wasn't about a potential coaching change or a months salary, They could have set an July 31 date, started the process of hiring a new AD, had one in place and had a seamless transfer of power.

I just believe, they either have their guy and have to go through the legal hiring hoops, or the guy they thought they had said no.
The only problem with saying it is the hiring hoops is that it shouldn't take that long I wouldn't think. I guess I don't know about hiring an AD. Maybe it has to get through the BOR and there isn't a consensus in the body. I would think trying to get Ed's name past a large group would be difficult at best given his history at Missouri.

The longer this drags out the more this starts to favor your thought that the #1 guy said no.....Dave Wannstedt.cough cough cough.
 
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According to many national pundits and analytics we have one of the top 10 toughest schedules in the country. One a few weeks ago said we had the second toughest schedule in the county. I agree however that other than OSU and OU, any of the rest of the schedule is beatable but many of those games will be 50/50 contests. We could end up anywhere from a 2 loss to a 7 loss team depending IMO on our QB play. :(
So I’ve seen. We control our own destiny this season.
 
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The only problem with saying it is the hiring hoops is that it shouldn't take that long I wouldn't think. I guess I don't know about hiring an AD. Maybe it has to get through the BOR and there isn't a consensus in the body. I would think trying to get Ed's name past a large group would be difficult at best given his history at Missouri.

The longer this drags out the more this starts to favor your thought that the #1 guy said no.....Dave Wannstedt.cough cough cough.
I am talking about state laws for hiring and posting the position. Perhaps the need to hiring a search firm and actually use it like they did last time.

Eichorst fired Sept 21, Moos hired October 15. Roughly 25 days. We still have a week to meet that same time frame
 

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I am talking about state laws for hiring and posting the position. Perhaps the need to hiring a search firm and actually use it like they did last time.

Eichorst fired Sept 21, Moos hired October 15. Roughly 25 days. We still have a week to meet that same time frame
Yes I believe that the job legally needs/needed to be posted for 14 days per law. Could be wrong but I thought the case for state employee which I do believe AD would fall under
 

dinglefritz

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I am talking about state laws for hiring and posting the position. Perhaps the need to hiring a search firm and actually use it like they did last time.

Eichorst fired Sept 21, Moos hired October 15. Roughly 25 days. We still have a week to meet that same time frame
The time frame kind of makes it unlikely that they had a candidate lined up ready to sign a contract as many have speculated. When we fired Eichorst I don't believe we had any idea what direction we would go for an AD. I would have thought that as suddenly as they canned Moos that they thought they had their guy.
 

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OR there was something that occurred that was embarrassing enough to the university that they wanted him to go and keep his mouth shut. I think that is unlikely but the only other scenario for me that makes sense is that Moos extended Frost without the blessing of his superiors and they want a new guy in should something serious need to transpire in the relative new future. The last thing you want is a lame duck AD hiring new coaches. I think the administration knows full well that the next 2 years are probably make or break for Frost if not this one. Moos probably painted NU in to a corner with the contract extension and the way this is going down makes me suspect that Green etal may not be happy about that. Just wild speculation on my part.
Green recently said that he agreed to the extension for Frost. So it wasn't that.
"The chancellor retains 'tremendous confidence' in Frost, noting he was the one who decided to extend Frost’s contract by two years in November 2019."
 
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It's Trev Alberts. I like it for various reasons - knows Nebraska, knows Frost, likely knows other coaches at Nebraska, from the area of the country, young enough to be in the job for a long time.

It's coming to an end sooner than later.
 

TruHusker

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It's Trev Alberts. I like it for various reasons - knows Nebraska, knows Frost, likely knows other coaches at Nebraska, from the area of the country, young enough to be in the job for a long time.

It's coming to an end sooner than later.
So far you have predicted Cook, Klassy and Alberts. Give us enough names and one is bound to be correct. ;)
 

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It's Trev Alberts. I like it for various reasons - knows Nebraska, knows Frost, likely knows other coaches at Nebraska, from the area of the country, young enough to be in the job for a long time.

It's coming to an end sooner than later.
God I hope not
 

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8 wins should be doable this year. I don't think Moos was out of line with that statement but I'm not sure Frost would have been happy with that bar to clear. The schedule this year is ridiculous and stuff happens. Our QB recruiting IMO has left us in a spot where if we lose Adrian for any extended length of time, we're probably in trouble. The only possible salvation would be if Masker would be competent enough to do the job because I just don't see Smothers or Haarberg being able to handle it this early in their careers. Do NOT like freshmen QBs.
It's possible, sure, but my interpretation was like Moos at a bar trying to be boastful and it did seem to raise some eyebrows when it came out.. but who really knows.. it's just speculation.

I think we're going to get throttled early and someone is going to have to step up in that QB room, and I suspect it will be Haarberg.

Going with a Freshman at QB is not ideal, but I guess we could argue the merits of the unproven young guy versus the proven losing older guy.. seems we have had a lot of those threads already.

QB recruiting and retainment is all on Scott Frost. I give him no empathy for the QB situation that he himself has created.
 

antirowboat

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Trev would be a good hire folks. Good for the football program too since he will support Frost but at the same time tell him to ******* win.