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Yeah, we'll suffer for 4 years as the Democrats try to ram through socialism. We know Biden is a lame duck. He'll be lucky to serve four months much less four years. Then you'll have Kamala who is widely disliked by the entire American population. if we set up the right candidate in 2024, we should be able to take back the White House. We want Trumpism without Trump. He's been great in a lot of areas, but too much of a loose cannon for the majority of Americans. The biggest challenge will be fighting the propaganda coming out of the mainstream media and left.
If you think Biden is a socialist and a progressive then you haven’t been paying attention to his career. Definitely a centrist and definitely supports money in politics as well as pro establishment. The only difference in my eyes are as follows. 1) he doesn’t flaunt his racism and encourage organizations such as the proud boys to take matters into his own hands. 2) he won’t go against his advisers and create a bubble full of yes men. 3) if he loses in four years he won’t destabilize our entire national security with a two pronged attack by messing with our engagements in the Middle East including trying to bomb Syria all the while completely making a mockery of our democracy. It’s inexcusable and in my opinion makes him a traitor. When you put your own self interest ahead of the country (not even talking about the lawsuits over the election) by firing competent military officials because they don’t walk the same line you do as well as trying to start a war with two months left in office is treason. That I haven’t even mentioned the fact that he hasn’t given any access to Biden’s team in the event he has won at this point is just as bad and puts our country immediately on our back foot when it comes to building bridges with ally’s and showing the world that just cuz we had controversy during an election doesn’t mean we are vulnerable. He immediately puts us at a disadvantage on purpose. Just my opinion
 

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If you think Biden is a socialist and a progressive then you haven’t been paying attention to his career. Definitely a centrist and definitely supports money in politics as well as pro establishment. The only difference in my eyes are as follows. 1) he doesn’t flaunt his racism and encourage organizations such as the proud boys to take matters into his own hands. 2) he won’t go against his advisers and create a bubble full of yes men. 3) if he loses in four years he won’t destabilize our entire national security with a two pronged attack by messing with our engagements in the Middle East including trying to bomb Syria all the while completely making a mockery of our democracy. It’s inexcusable and in my opinion makes him a traitor. When you put your own self interest ahead of the country (not even talking about the lawsuits over the election) by firing competent military officials because they don’t walk the same line you do as well as trying to start a war with two months left in office is treason. That I haven’t even mentioned the fact that he hasn’t given any access to Biden’s team in the event he has won at this point is just as bad and puts our country immediately on our back foot when it comes to building bridges with ally’s and showing the world that just cuz we had controversy during an election doesn’t mean we are vulnerable. He immediately puts us at a disadvantage on purpose. Just my opinion
Of course he does, because Trump is about Trump. Trump Republicans just love their man, who they wholeheartedly believe was interested in making the country great. Trump is the worst sort of salesman, and they went all in on him. He is quite possibly the biggest narcissist ever to occupy the White House. Trump does not care about American. He cares about Trump. Given the chance he will burn down the country just to "win." If this all sounds hyperbolic, it isn't. It would be nice to see a little objectivity for once.
 
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It would be nice to see a little objectivity for once.
LOL!!!

Says the guy who puts words in your mouth when he sees objective posts (every politician and govt official is a self-first scumbag).

you don’t want objectivity, you want everyone to agree with you. You run from objectivity because you’re the same kind of fanboy as those you claim to hate.
 

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Of course he does, because Trump is about Trump. Trump Republicans just love their man, who they wholeheartedly believe was interested in making the country great. Trump is the worst sort of salesman, and they went all in on him. He is quite possibly the biggest narcissist ever to occupy the White House. Trump does not care about American. He cares about Trump. Given the chance he will burn down the country just to "win." If this all sounds hyperbolic, it isn't. It would be nice to see a little objectivity for once.
It’s not hyperbolic at all mainly because he’s been showing his hand to the American ppl for over a year. Everyone with half a brain knew this was coming and no one did anything to make sure the sh it show didnt get out of hand. But appeasement has worked so well in every struggle for power. so I’m sure that’s the best course this time
 
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It’s not hyperbolic at all mainly because he’s been showing his hand to the American ppl for over a year. Everyone with half a brain knew this was coming and no one did anything to make sure the sh it show didnt get out of hand. But appeasement has worked so well in every struggle for power. so I’m sure that’s the best course this time
just like everyone with half a brain knows the impact of all this on avg Americans will be zero.

who the president is doesn’t matter. It never has and never will.

It’s a figurehead position for weak minded people to point at as cause for their personal shortcomings.

rs and ds are two sides of the same coin. Neither care about anything but power.
 

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LOL!!!

Says the guy who puts words in your mouth when he sees objective posts (every politician and govt official is a self-first scumbag).

you don’t want objectivity, you want everyone to agree with you. You run from objectivity because you’re the same kind of fanboy as those you claim to hate.
I would never put anything in your mouth...
 
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I would never put anything in your mouth...
You did just yesterday, saying I believe fraud only occurs on one side and I blindly hate the govt.

when I responded (objectively), you bowed out.

typical fanboy. Imagine looking at the history of politics in the US and thinking unironically that one side is better than the other. Couldn’t be me.
 

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You did just yesterday, saying I believe fraud only occurs on one side and I blindly hate the govt.

when I responded (objectively), you bowed out.

typical fanboy.
Apparently it's easy to put things in your mouth.

I didn't notice what you responded "objectively" but considering your the comments you typically make on these matters I doubt that I missed much.
 

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just like everyone with half a brain knows the impact of all this on avg Americans will be zero.

who the president is doesn’t matter. It never has and never will.
I would agree with you up until you have a someone in the office who doesn’t even try to act like he cares about the country. Destabilizing relationships with allies. Putting our military at a disadvantage. As well as flirting with war by wanting to bomb Syria for what reason exactly? All the while firing anyone who puts the country above all else. So while it doesn’t seem like it’s that big of a deal to your little bubble. in reality if you think our democracy is so rock solid consider this. 2020 is the first time ever an election has been challenged to this extent. Every country has gone through total overhauls of governmental systems. We have a young country that has never experienced this before how we handle this effects everything now and in the future. Trump is giving the blueprint to someone much more intelligent and dangerous to take over our country. Take Germany for example. After World War One they became a democracy. Hitler comes along saying how Germany needs to be great again and he starts praying on ppls fears. Immigrants Jews Gypsy’s and anyone who’s not us is an enemy. Soon through fear he is able to do whatever he wants circumvents the government and takes complete control. All while ppl cheered. I’m not calling trump hitler but the similarities in situations are startling
 
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Apparently it's easy to put things in your mouth.

I didn't notice what you responded "objectively" but considering your the comments you typically make on these matters I doubt that I missed much.
The comments I make are all the same.

your brand of naïveté is a special one. Go team go!

I say the same about any party-line tower, and have had this exact same discourse with dyed-in-the-wool republicans. you are both the same.
 
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I would agree with you up until you have a someone in the office who doesn’t even try to act like he cares about the country. Destabilizing relationships with allies. Putting our military at a disadvantage. As well as flirting with war by wanting to bomb Syria for what reason exactly? All the while firing anyone who puts the country above all else. So while it doesn’t seem like it’s that big of a deal to your little bubble. in reality if you think our democracy is so rock solid consider this. 2020 is the first time ever an election has been challenged to this extent. Every country has gone through total overhauls of governmental systems. We have a young country that has never experienced this before how we handle this effects everything now and in the future. Trump is giving the blueprint to someone much more intelligent and dangerous to take over our country. Take Germany for example. After World War One they became a democracy. Hitler comes along saying how Germany needs to be great again and he starts praying on ppls fears. Immigrants Jews Gypsy’s and anyone who’s not us is an enemy. Soon through fear he is able to do whatever he wants circumvents the government and takes complete control. All while ppl cheered. I’m not calling trump hitler but the similarities in situations are startling
Very normal, rational line of thinking on display here.
 

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I would agree with you up until you have a someone in the office who doesn’t even try to act like he cares about the country. Destabilizing relationships with allies. Putting our military at a disadvantage. As well as flirting with war by wanting to bomb Syria for what reason exactly? All the while firing anyone who puts the country above all else. So while it doesn’t seem like it’s that big of a deal to your little bubble. in reality if you think our democracy is so rock solid consider this. 2020 is the first time ever an election has been challenged to this extent. Every country has gone through total overhauls of governmental systems. We have a young country that has never experienced this before how we handle this effects everything now and in the future. Trump is giving the blueprint to someone much more intelligent and dangerous to take over our country. Take Germany for example. After World War One they became a democracy. Hitler comes along saying how Germany needs to be great again and he starts praying on ppls fears. Immigrants Jews Gypsy’s and anyone who’s not us is an enemy. Soon through fear he is able to do whatever he wants circumvents the government and takes complete control. All while ppl cheered. I’m not calling trump hitler but the similarities in situations are startling

Trump's administration helped the Jews, the opposite of O'bama , who gave billions to terrorists. Also, the chinese government is not our friend. "To this extent," that's the favorite qualifier for democrats. The blueprint to take over our country is simple . . . 1) do something to shut down the system ("pandemic") and 2) divide the populace by getting everyone to hate the other (have the media and politicians play identity politics).
 

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Very normal, rational line of thinking on display here.
Where is my take wrong? Everything I have said trump has done he has done? Am I saying he’s going to succeed in taking over our country? No, I hope to god he doesn’t. But when you admit that your lawsuits are just to get to the Supreme Court when his team have no tangible evidence that would Substantially change anything then why do you think things will be different in the Supreme Court? It’s not a huge leap to say if trump remains in office that he will do his best to be able to find a way to run again and his bubble of appeasers will follow his lead
 

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Trump's administration helped the Jews, the opposite of O'bama , who gave billions to terrorists. Also, the chinese government is not our friend. "To this extent," that's the favorite qualifier for democrats. The blueprint to take over our country is simple . . . 1) do something to shut down the system ("pandemic") and 2) divide the populace by getting everyone to hate the other (have the media and politicians play identity politics).
I’m not even going to start with you in all honesty. When you say that covid was used to “shut down” the system when the entire world has been effected by the virus and lots of countries have had lockdown orders including the uk another democratic country
 

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I’m not even going to start with you in all honesty. When you say that covid was used to “shut down” the system when the entire world has been effected by the virus and lots of countries have had lockdown orders including the uk another democratic country

Finally, some honesty. I simply used the pandemic as an example of something that has shut down the system . . . do you disagree?
 
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Where is my take wrong? Everything I have said trump has done he has done? Am I saying he’s going to succeed in taking over our country? No, I hope to god he doesn’t. But when you admit that your lawsuits are just to get to the Supreme Court when his team have no tangible evidence that would Substantially change anything then why do you think things will be different in the Supreme Court? It’s not a huge leap to say if trump remains in office that he will do his best to be able to find a way to run again and his bubble of appeasers will follow his lead
it is, in fact, a huge leap.

any comparison to hitler and attempt to rationalize it is spitting in the face of those who suffered due to that particular brand of evil.

the hubris on display to even fathom drawing a parallel is embarrassing.
 
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Probably, but it's no worse than Trumphilis, which you contract from rolling around in the gutter with scumbuckets.
"us vs them! they're bad and evil and the cause of all that's wrong with the country!"

meanwhile, in DC:


 

JumpinJackFlash

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it is, in fact, a huge leap.

any comparison to hitler and attempt to rationalize it is spitting in the face of those who suffered due to that particular brand of evil.

the hubris on display to even fathom drawing a parallel is embarrassing.
What’s the saying🤔 look to history or you are bound to repeats it? I’m Jewish the impact of what I’m saying is not lost on me. There’s a saying in Judaism culture there’s a saying “never again” a calling to see smoke before the fire, to come to the aid of anyone who is in danger of similar events. Again as I stated before I am not comparing trump the person to hitler the person just comparing the situation of how trump is trying to seize power and the way hitler was able to gain power before ww2
 

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"us vs them! they're bad and evil and the cause of all that's wrong with the country!"

meanwhile, leaders on both sides in DC:

Man, I don't think conservatives are evil. I think Trump is scum, and it bothers me that so many people seem willing to buy all of the lies coming out of his mouth. Some are small. Some are meaningless. Some are actually kinda funny, but there oh so many that are awful, and they are constant and it is damaging to our society. He has half the country calling for some kind of a coup. That is insane, and extremely troubling.
 
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What’s the saying🤔 look to history or you are bound to repeats it? I’m Jewish the impact of what I’m saying is not lost on me. There’s a saying in Judaism culture there’s a saying “never again” a calling to see smoke before the fire, to come to the aid of anyone who is in danger of similar events. Again as I stated before I am not comparing trump the person to hitler the person just comparing the situation of how trump is trying to seize power and the way hitler was able to gain power before ww2
by this logic, you must then think anyone who voted for trump is comparable to a nazi.

sound the alarm! what a hero.
 
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Laugh at it that’s fine but the situations are similar and you’ve given me no reasons to think otherwise
the situations are in absolutely no way similar.

this country wasn't just ravaged by a world war, leaving the populace desperate, starving and hopeless.

maybe start there. this maniacal blueprint to take over the country you speak of has led to consecutive popular vote Ls.
 
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Man, I don't think conservatives are evil. I think Trump is scum, and it bothers me that so many people seem willing to buy all of the lies coming out of his mouth. Some are small. Some are meaningless. Some are actually kinda funny, but there oh so many that are awful, and they are constant and it is damaging to our society. He has half the country calling for some kind of a coup. That is insane, and extremely troubling.
something tells that you don't speak to many if that's what you really believe.

I'm sure there are a very small minority who believe everything he says. just like there's a small minority who really do believe conservatives are evil.

by and large, however, we all just want to get on with our lives and do what we want with as little gov't intervention as possible.
 

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by this logic, you must then think anyone who voted for trump is comparable to a nazi.

sound the alarm! what a hero.
Nope just as the ppl who appeased hitler didn’t start out as nazis either. And you’re correct in the fact that we weren’t in a world war but when we have the country completely divided as we are it makes us vulnerable just the same. The situation doesn’t have to be identical to carry weight
 
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Nope just as the ppl who appeased hitler didn’t start out as nazis either. And you’re correct in the fact that we weren’t in a world war but when we have the country completely divided as we are it makes us vulnerable just the same. The situation doesn’t have to be identical to carry weight
the country isn't completely divided. turn off the tv and take a look outside. probably not too many (dare I say zero?) elephant vs donkey fistfights breaking out in the street.
 

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the country isn't completely divided. turn off the tv and take a look outside. probably not too many elephant vs donkey fistfights breaking out in the street.
Nope it’s playing out in message boards and in protests on both sides. Just one look at this thread tells you all you need to know about rational morally good ppl of Nebraska
 

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What’s the saying🤔 look to history or you are bound to repeats it? I’m Jewish the impact of what I’m saying is not lost on me. There’s a saying in Judaism culture there’s a saying “never again” a calling to see smoke before the fire, to come to the aid of anyone who is in danger of similar events. Again as I stated before I am not comparing trump the person to hitler the person just comparing the situation of how trump is trying to seize power and the way hitler was able to gain power before ww2

You're Jewish, and you're railing against Trump rather than the O'bama/Biden catastrophe? Yeah, there is plenty that is lost on you. My goodness.
 

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something tells that you don't speak to many if that's what you really believe.

I'm sure there are a very small minority who believe everything he says. just like there's a small minority who really do believe conservatives are evil.

by and large, however, we all just want to get on with our lives and do what we want with as little gov't intervention as possible.
That last part, about little gov't intervention, is totally fine. We can agree to disagree, and there are some areas where I agree. But I am in constant contact with friends, family, and casual acquaintances who regurgitate Trump fed garbage. These aren't isolated cases. It's when I go to a party, people from random backgrounds, several law enforcement agents included, and at some point in the night I hear how the election is being stolen. I don't think they're evil, they're good people, but they are being influenced by the POTUS, who is massively full of s***!!
 
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No he left office with our democracy in tact that’s all I’m talking about right now
How's that? And just so I'm clear, O'bama / Biden certainly came across as anti-Israel in their approach to the the peace process, and Trump was decidedly pro-Israel (you know, an "ally") and achieved a monumental peace deal, but you are beside yourself with Trump making damn certain the election results were accurate?
 

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I think it's better described as "Trumpoholic."
The media ...all media...is going to miss him when he is gone. Obviously he wont stay quiet the next few years but Trump has been good for the cable news business
 

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How's that? And just so I'm clear, O'bama / Biden certainly came across as anti-Israel in their approach to the the peace process, and Trump was decidedly pro-Israel (you know, an "ally") and achieved a monumental peace deal, but you are beside yourself with Trump making damn certain the election results were accurate?
Anti Israel doesn’t make one anti Jewish hahaha there are three separate religions that make Israel holy ground
 

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The media ...all media...is going to miss him when he is gone. Obviously he wont stay quiet the next few years but Trump has been good for the cable news business
He's either been good for or completely destroyed it depending on how you look at it. IMO all credibility is gone from major networks.
 
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