Listen up bro's

[SparksCat]

Yes, a couple of years ago when K crossed the 1000 wins. He was being interviewed and was trying to come across as humble. He then states "I don't know why, but the basketball gods have smiled on me." That is the complete antithesis of being humble. Creating false basketball gods that point at him

 

[UKWildcatT]

Remember when the Cats fired Tubby? The media had a field day talking about how racist Kentucky fans are. Well, any talk of getting rid of Cal should prove one thing, our fans are not racist, they are just stupid.

Honestly, YOU sound pretty stupid because no where did he say “getting rid of Cal”.

If you don’t think the tide has shifted...I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[IYAOYAS1]

The recent coup of recruits going to pUKe is Capel...he is more relatable to this recent group of Kids. Face it, UK has a huge negative, fanbase. Parents of these kids want two things, security and success.
A lot of these kid's parents are savvy and tech friendly. Our fans still live in the past while the rest of the country is up to date.
Recent snafus reveal a very small part of our fanbase, but their actions speak louder than our collective cheers.
This is a program that Rupp built. As great as he was, he still have some negatively associated with him. Our fanbase cannibalized one of our own, Ashley Judd. The remarks that were made about her we're not only horrible, racist, and downright sexist. For a lot of these parents who are aware of social justice as well as being apart of said movements, we still have a fanbase that proudly stands by Confederate flags. People may say that parents, recruits never check out the msg boards but if my child's future is involved...
I've been coming to this site for years, it's steadily progressed to one of negativity. Everyday in posts you see language that is questionable, use of monikers in place of racist terms, ie thugs..and now shitholes. Is a perfect example.
The most telling response from ZION, was 'joining a Brotherhood'...if you can't see what that really says, well, I see now what Capel is doing behind closed doors.
Food for thought. This is taking into events in the past year and the current state of America.

Hi Ashley. You’re Bat Ish crazy.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

I agree with a lot of the OP, but I do think Cal pushes UK. Look at his past speeches at BBM. They are full of references to our history and records.

 

[kodakkodak]

So he should be against the players that will help recruiting .

If they’re players that don’t help Kentucky reach it’s goal of titles. I would say follow him to his new team.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

Duke is full of snakes, and K is the true evil pos in the sport. He doesn't care about anyone, only himself. He uses any tactics necessary, there's always one sociopath who wins in sports, he's the one. There's no telling what the man did. Capel is his pet demon who uses dirt.

Bad guys finish first sometimes, it's true.

Capel is a known cheater. I have no doubt that K got tired of the Cal hoopla and started spreading Cal to NBA and other Dirt. Then You get boosters to start funnling money. Heck Zion may cost them half a million. His family sure were grinning. You can bet Clemson will investigate. Of course it won’t matter it’s ACC and and Duke. They could hand out 100 bills in public and be cleared.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Too much of an oversimplification imo, coach K has alway had a reputation as a guy that makes younger guys earn their position. He had trouble landing quality big men, even after 3 championships. He was seen as hostile to the OAD in the early stages.

Should I list the players he's signed since? It's insane, and his reputation on these matters changed nearly overnight. Didn't take long.

I think it's more than just a binary problem and our culture needs a facelift in general.

Yeah, even as late as Parker, he was still dissing OADs. A lot of talk was going around that JP was going to come back. Since then, he's been all in with OADs.

 

[morgousky]

The recent coup of recruits going to pUKe is Capel...he is more relatable to this recent group of Kids. Face it, UK has a huge negative, fanbase. Parents of these kids want two things, security and success.
A lot of these kid's parents are savvy and tech friendly. Our fans still live in the past while the rest of the country is up to date.
Recent snafus reveal a very small part of our fanbase, but their actions speak louder than our collective cheers.
This is a program that Rupp built. As great as he was, he still have some negatively associated with him. Our fanbase cannibalized one of our own, Ashley Judd. The remarks that were made about her we're not only horrible, racist, and downright sexist. For a lot of these parents who are aware of social justice as well as being apart of said movements, we still have a fanbase that proudly stands by Confederate flags. People may say that parents, recruits never check out the msg boards but if my child's future is involved...
I've been coming to this site for years, it's steadily progressed to one of negativity. Everyday in posts you see language that is questionable, use of monikers in place of racist terms, ie thugs..and now shitholes. Is a perfect example.
The most telling response from ZION, was 'joining a Brotherhood'...if you can't see what that really says, well, I see now what Capel is doing behind closed doors.
Food for thought. This is taking into events in the past year and the current state of America.

Well, you are totally ate up. News flash my man, the world doesn't care. You buy media taking points and social justice propaganda, suddenly everything is centered around that in your mind. Get some help, seek therapy. You cant cure that, but you can control the symptoms. In the 70's they used tall buildings and LSD. We need to get back to that.

I'm sure Zion was heartbroken that Kentucky fans turned on the "nasty woman".

Btw, if it was about that, Calipari and Kentucky fans embraced a predominately black sport and sacrificed for THEIR careers. But keep looking for monsters and ghost. IMO I'd rather get a warm feeling from liquor than self righteousness and virtue signaling but that's just me.

 

[UKWildcatT]

The recent coup of recruits going to pUKe is Capel...he is more relatable to this recent group of Kids. Face it, UK has a huge negative, fanbase. Parents of these kids want two things, security and success.
A lot of these kid's parents are savvy and tech friendly. Our fans still live in the past while the rest of the country is up to date.
Recent snafus reveal a very small part of our fanbase, but their actions speak louder than our collective cheers.
This is a program that Rupp built. As great as he was, he still have some negatively associated with him. Our fanbase cannibalized one of our own, Ashley Judd. The remarks that were made about her we're not only horrible, racist, and downright sexist. For a lot of these parents who are aware of social justice as well as being apart of said movements, we still have a fanbase that proudly stands by Confederate flags. People may say that parents, recruits never check out the msg boards but if my child's future is involved...
I've been coming to this site for years, it's steadily progressed to one of negativity. Everyday in posts you see language that is questionable, use of monikers in place of racist terms, ie thugs..and now shitholes. Is a perfect example.
The most telling response from ZION, was 'joining a Brotherhood'...if you can't see what that really says, well, I see now what Capel is doing behind closed doors.
Food for thought. This is taking into events in the past year and the current state of America.

There are a lot of bad posts in the history of this message board, but this is definitely one of the top five.

 

[morgousky]

I agree with a lot of the OP, but I do think Cal pushes UK. Look at this past speeches at BBM. They are full of references to our history and records.

I agree completely. But I think that's centered toward fans and the ends, I think he doesn't do it enough when he recruits.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

The recent coup of recruits going to pUKe is Capel...he is more relatable to this recent group of Kids. Face it, UK has a huge negative, fanbase. Parents of these kids want two things, security and success.
A lot of these kid's parents are savvy and tech friendly. Our fans still live in the past while the rest of the country is up to date.
Recent snafus reveal a very small part of our fanbase, but their actions speak louder than our collective cheers.
This is a program that Rupp built. As great as he was, he still have some negatively associated with him. Our fanbase cannibalized one of our own, Ashley Judd. The remarks that were made about her we're not only horrible, racist, and downright sexist. For a lot of these parents who are aware of social justice as well as being apart of said movements, we still have a fanbase that proudly stands by Confederate flags. People may say that parents, recruits never check out the msg boards but if my child's future is involved...
I've been coming to this site for years, it's steadily progressed to one of negativity. Everyday in posts you see language that is questionable, use of monikers in place of racist terms, ie thugs..and now shitholes. Is a perfect example.
The most telling response from ZION, was 'joining a Brotherhood'...if you can't see what that really says, well, I see now what Capel is doing behind closed doors.
Food for thought. This is taking into events in the past year and the current state of America.

Have you been to North Carolina. More hills than Ky and more ignorance and southern rednecks than KY will see. It is a confederate stare.

 

[jameslee32]

The recent coup of recruits going to pUKe is Capel...he is more relatable to this recent group of Kids. Face it, UK has a huge negative, fanbase. Parents of these kids want two things, security and success.
A lot of these kid's parents are savvy and tech friendly. Our fans still live in the past while the rest of the country is up to date.
Recent snafus reveal a very small part of our fanbase, but their actions speak louder than our collective cheers.
This is a program that Rupp built. As great as he was, he still have some negatively associated with him. Our fanbase cannibalized one of our own, Ashley Judd. The remarks that were made about her we're not only horrible, racist, and downright sexist. For a lot of these parents who are aware of social justice as well as being apart of said movements, we still have a fanbase that proudly stands by Confederate flags. People may say that parents, recruits never check out the msg boards but if my child's future is involved...
I've been coming to this site for years, it's steadily progressed to one of negativity. Everyday in posts you see language that is questionable, use of monikers in place of racist terms, ie thugs..and now shitholes. Is a perfect example.
The most telling response from ZION, was 'joining a Brotherhood'...if you can't see what that really says, well, I see now what Capel is doing behind closed doors.
Food for thought. This is taking into events in the past year and the current state of America.

There's some truth in this but morgousky didn't address any of it either. I don't necessarily buy that K is a liar and sociopath and of course OP's sold elements of his frustration very, very well. I just think K has taken the Cal approach instead of the other way around so I'm not sure what is so unique about his method. It's working for sure but I'll take Cal's success and his kids any day of the week. Tide be damned.

 

[ftp000]

ALL Kentucky fans aren’t stupid. Why say that when it isn’t true ? We certainly have some bad fans but we’ve got more than our share of good fans that are smart and understand basketball.

Thanks for pointing that out captain literal, I certainly really meant to say that ALL fans are stupid.

 

[docholiday51]

First let's let go of the Calipari hot seat talk. There are only a handful of coaches today who can coach here, most of those are already at blue bloods or programs they aren't leaving. Anyone we hired would be a risk at this point, Cal is still one of the only sure bets. 8 years, 4 final fours, title. At the end of the day it is what it is. I think everyone should cool it on that and think. We aren't there yet.

This board has had this coming. For over two years there have been posters trying to say exactly what we are witnessing. I'm no insider, but I was hearing Cal is having trouble with these recruits for a while, and that was coming from the AAU circuit where I'm from. I am friends with a few coaches and participated on the circuit in a small role in the late 2000's. Not one are surprised with our position as of this morning.

Kentucky's gamble backfired, and for those that think these players do not care about college and winning, you just got your first shot to the gut. Not every recruit will look past success (Bamba), and it doesn't matter how good they are. Real winners want to win regardless of anything else. K is selling that, Kentucky is selling the Lakers. When it was evident that pitch was no longer working, we turned to insanity. Just keep doing it.

Kentucky has more to offer than Duke, we have an entire state behind our program with vast resources and connections that is much deeper with a richer and older tradition. Why Cal decided he didn't need to use that, I don't know. We have promoted a very self centered environment and it's turned people off. Kids leave when they have no business leaving, our roster thinned out, top kids that wanted to win and be a part of something special didn't see it at UK. Others like Kennard were afraid they'd be pushed out early. We need a slight culture change, at least curve it.

I know it's hard for some to swallow that, we've got several who just simply couldn't comprehend a world where a kid would choose another option other than money and individual greed. They can both work together, equally. Just like skilled basketball players and talent. They can work together equally. Cal went all in toward one direction. Big mistake.

Recruit to UK, explain the history and what you want to accomplish for the program, they already know you won't hold them back if they're ready. The 20189 class wanted to win, they didn't need Cal to get them to the NBA. And if that's not important, Cal is useless compared to others right now. He spends little time recruiting "UK".

Nike is a huge problem, and again some have been expressing this for sometime. Our assistants have to go, or at least a total shakeup. I'm now on board with Barbee's exit. He cannot handle his position. Also It's my personal opinion that our compliance is and has been a problem. But that's a topic for another day.

Calipari is more than capable of becoming a college coach again, and I do say again because think he quit doing that when he came to Kentucky (somewhat). Cal was excellent at evaluation, and I think it's evident at this point that he's stopped evaluating as he once did. Throw away the top 25 rankings, pick up a note pad, and get out there recruiting. You can still sign top players.

I've people I consider friends on this board, and Im telling you guys, fans care more about the program than Cals record. They are beginning to look past the accomplishments because they feel that Kentucky has become an afterthought and that the program is becoming disrespected. There is a reason the fans appreciate and remember 1992 more than championship teams. I sometimes think Cal doesn't understand that, and I think a minority of our fans don't either.

Cal can get this right. He has a legacy at UK with a winning record to recruit with. Start recruiting Calipari, Kentucky, and family as much as the next level; the next level is just the next goal. Talk about the goal they are chasing today, college basketball.

That's what I got. I love Calipari and feel terrible for him right now. He needs our support more than he's ever needed it. I'm sure he's pissed at several issues surrounding the past few years, probably more than us. All great coaches ADJUST. All great coaches had bad stretches and made changes. If Cal is who we think he is, a GOAT, he will follow suit.

I don't think I've stopped drinking since yesterday at 5.

I don't have connections or sources of any kind,I'm just a long time fan.I wasn't aware that you were as close to things as you are,I find it interesting that you have summed up many of my thoughts ,feeling and fears about where we are.You have done it much better than i could have done,I think it is clear that there is merit to what you say.Cal always paid lip service to our history but I never thought he used it to the full advantage that he could have.

I believe the OAD player has evolved form the days of Wall,Cousins and AD

I think your post is one of the best on the subject that I have read,in fact I wish it was a little less accurate than it probably is

 

[ftp000]

Honestly, YOU sound pretty stupid because no where did he say “getting rid of Cal”.

If you don’t think the tide has shifted...I don’t know what to tell you.

Hey jackass, did you read the OP? The first paragraph is about some people putting Cal on the hot seat , and how there's nobody good enough and available to replace him. Illiterate moron.

 

[mash_24]

The recent coup of recruits going to pUKe is Capel...he is more relatable to this recent group of Kids. Face it, UK has a huge negative, fanbase. Parents of these kids want two things, security and success.
A lot of these kid's parents are savvy and tech friendly. Our fans still live in the past while the rest of the country is up to date.
Recent snafus reveal a very small part of our fanbase, but their actions speak louder than our collective cheers.
This is a program that Rupp built. As great as he was, he still have some negatively associated with him. Our fanbase cannibalized one of our own, Ashley Judd. The remarks that were made about her we're not only horrible, racist, and downright sexist. For a lot of these parents who are aware of social justice as well as being apart of said movements, we still have a fanbase that proudly stands by Confederate flags. People may say that parents, recruits never check out the msg boards but if my child's future is involved...
I've been coming to this site for years, it's steadily progressed to one of negativity. Everyday in posts you see language that is questionable, use of monikers in place of racist terms, ie thugs..and now shitholes. Is a perfect example.
The most telling response from ZION, was 'joining a Brotherhood'...if you can't see what that really says, well, I see now what Capel is doing behind closed doors.
Food for thought. This is taking into events in the past year and the current state of America.

[roll]

I've read a lot of crazy stuff on these boards. But that is without a doubt the purest 5 or 6 paragraphs of horse- **** I've ever seen here.

 

[morgousky]

I don't have connections or sources of any kind,I'm just a long time fan.I wasn't aware that you were as close to things as you are,I find it interesting that you have summed up many of my thoughts ,feeling and fears about where we are.You have done it much better than i could have done,I think it is clear that there is merit to what you say.Cal always paid lip service to our history but I never thought he used it to the full advantage that he could have.

I believe the OAD player has evolved form the days of Wall,Cousins and AD

I think your post is one of the best on the subject that I have read,in fact I wish it was a little less accurate than it probably is

I have no sources to anything anyone would really want, I made a few friends in one city that do some coaching and prepping.

 

[UKWildcatT]

Hey jackass, did you read the OP? The first paragraph is about some people putting Cal on the hot seat , and how there's nobody good enough and available to replace him. Illiterate moron.

Whoooooo....a bad *** here

 

[John Henry]

The recent coup of recruits going to pUKe is Capel...he is more relatable to this recent group of Kids. Face it, UK has a huge negative, fanbase. Parents of these kids want two things, security and success.
A lot of these kid's parents are savvy and tech friendly. Our fans still live in the past while the rest of the country is up to date.
Recent snafus reveal a very small part of our fanbase, but their actions speak louder than our collective cheers.
This is a program that Rupp built. As great as he was, he still have some negatively associated with him. Our fanbase cannibalized one of our own, Ashley Judd. The remarks that were made about her we're not only horrible, racist, and downright sexist. For a lot of these parents who are aware of social justice as well as being apart of said movements, we still have a fanbase that proudly stands by Confederate flags. People may say that parents, recruits never check out the msg boards but if my child's future is involved...
I've been coming to this site for years, it's steadily progressed to one of negativity. Everyday in posts you see language that is questionable, use of monikers in place of racist terms, ie thugs..and now shitholes. Is a perfect example.
The most telling response from ZION, was 'joining a Brotherhood'...if you can't see what that really says, well, I see now what Capel is doing behind closed doors.
Food for thought. This is taking into events in the past year and the current state of America.

What in the world are you talking about? Doesn't Zion know Abe Lincoln was born in Kentucky.

 

[anon_leeghhkp6kfu6]

When you go from the go to guy for top 5 guys, to not even making their final 4 (zion), something is turning them off.

We totally disagree. And I'll take the info I have and believe that.

It's not just that simple though, I agree there.

I have a hard time believing coach K just woke up one day and threw fairy dust in the air, poof, my image has changed, they come.

Fair enough. I think your info is wrong based on what I’ve heard. But at the very least we agree that changes have to be made.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

[roll]

I've read a lot of crazy stuff on these boards. But that is without a doubt the purest 5 or 6 paragraphs of horse- **** I've ever seen here.

I agree but have a lot of crazy and blind fans.

 

[CHAMPCAT11]

Thanks for pointing that out captain literal, I certainly really meant to say that ALL fans are stupid.

I hope you’re not lobbying to be considered one of the ‘smart’ ones. If so you failed the test. But nice try.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

What in the world are you talking about? Doesn't Zion know Abe Lincoln was born in Kentucky.

LOL

 

[ck-2]

I agree with everything the OP said.
I just hope Cal is smart enough to swallow his pride and adapt. As far as shaking up the staff, I'm afraid Cal is too loyal to a guy like Barbee to fire him.
Will be interesting to see if Cal adapts and comes out swinging or just quits.

 

[JC43]

That's the problem with racism, the ones perpetuating never realize they are doing it. If you don't remember when Tubby was run out of town. Times have changed, the culture of America is changing too. Durham's population is 38% African American. People don't forget racial sleights, especially now a days, I sorry if this is a negative view, nothing I've stated is false.
I'm not a libtard, social justice crusader, I am trying to view it from all sides.
Parents won't put their kids thru that. Sad thing is UK is a well represented, a melting pot...when you read the msg boards or listen to local radio, you'd think we were in 1950's still

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

That social media response was way off but if you think Capel wouldn't put together a montage of irrational rantings from UK fans to use in negative recruiting then you're pretty naive.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Haven't considered that Duke might be planting the yearly Cal to the NBA rumors, but it wouldn't surprise me. Wojnarowski puts out these rumors every single year.

 

[morgousky]

That's the problem with racism, the ones perpetuating never realize they are doing it. If you don't remember when Tubby was run out of town. Times have changed, the culture of America is changing too. Durham's population is 38% African American. People don't forget racial sleights, especially now a days, I sorry if this is a negative view, nothing I've stated is false.
I'm not a libtard, social justice crusader, I am trying to view it from all sides.
Parents won't put their kids thru that. Sad thing is UK is a well represented, a melting pot...when you read the msg boards or listen to local radio, you'd think we were in 1950's still

But Dukes basketball team has always been viewed as 50% white. Your logic doesn't make sense, because as you say, everything breaks down to race to a black person. Oh, and Coach K is a republican. Well known actually, Cal is liberal. I figured in your view the ideologies would matter. Wake me up next time coach K promotes anything to do with BLM or social causes. He's a Bob Knight disciple. Get real.

Parents wont put their kids through what? Promotion of their kids careers, being Gods on campus, having a whole state help promote your brand? What?

You are a soft bigot. I think you're a good guy probably, and don't know it, but you are. Black people understand just like white people that racist and trash are on all sides. Everyday people don't base decisions like this off of that. White elites make you feel this way, not black people I know.

 

[ftp000]

I hope you’re not lobbying to be considered one of the ‘smart’ ones. If so you failed the test. But nice try.

I hope you’re not lobbying to be considered one of the ‘smart’ ones. If so you failed the test. But nice try.

it took 12 seconds to read a couple of your recent posts to learn that you are one of the stupid ones, good luck with that.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Nicely said OP. I agree we don’t even need to be thinking of getting rid of Cal. In his 9th season nearing a decade at UK, times and the landscape have changed as they always do. K adapted, Cal needs to as well. It IS insanity not to. We need guys who value winning, team play, and the college experience. Unfortunately it may take a couple of less than stellar seasons to recalibrate. That’s how I see it from a snowy day in the Rockies.

 

[MarkPftw]

The NCAA is loving this, the media is loving this, ESPN is loving this, etc....those ******** were always pissed off and jealous and just butthurt that UK was EASILY getting guys like John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, Anthony Davis, Brandon Knight, Terrence Jones, Nerlens Noel, Karl Anthony Towns, Julius Randle, etc etc etc...and that those guys were kicking *** and winning games and Championships and going to Final 4s and winning a National Title at UK and weren't going to their beloved Duke and UNC and were getting coached by Coach Cal (Who the NCAA HATES)...so much so that they got UNC to back to back National Title games and tried getting their corrupt refs to win them two National Titles but Villanova's buzzer beater ruined the first one..so they made sure to get them back there and complete their objective the next year..as Arkansas, UK, Oregon, and Gonzaga all found out the hard way. BTW, UK was NOT the "second best team" last season..UK was the best team and if you couldn't see that after UK still almost beat UNC (For a second time) after being raped by John Higgins, then I don't know what to tell you.


Those/that same cheating and corrupt pieces of **** refs and NCAA also got Duke a National Title in 2015 with the easiest road to the Title game I have ever seen (16 seed, of course..and then San Diego St., Utah, Gonzaga, and 7 seed Michigan St.) and then when Wisconsin was laying the wood to Duke in the Title game, the corrupt NCAA refs took over and simply got Duke the win and National Title.)..John Higgins got rid of us vs. Wisconsin (Sorry, guys..but that BLATANTLY OBVIOUS shot clock violation that happened right in front of Higgins was not "missed"..he saw it and he just didn't call it. That cost UK the game..UK would have been up 4 with 2 minutes to go with the ball..UK didn't help things with some of their offensive possessions down the stretch but still, the no call shot clock violation cost UK the game, plain and simple.)..and then they got rid of Wisconsin vs. Duke. The NCAA got what they desperately wanted. Have Duke avoid UK and get Duke the National Title.

And now, starting at the end of the 2015 NCAA Tournament and ever since, it's pretty much been the Duke and UNC show in college basketball in recruiting (Duke), on the court/on ESPN (UNC and Duke) and in the news in general (Especially with UNC getting away completely free with nearly TWENTY YEARS of Academic Fraud that nobody seems to even mention now !!). Yes, the beloved Duke and UNC. NCAA's darlings and it's obvious. Coach Cal and UK had to be "shown their place" and that's what's going on now and the last few years)..Hell, they've been trying ever since Coach Cal got here..do people not see it on Selection Sunday every year ?! The NCAA, the corrupt officiating, and college basketball in general is a total joke now..and is as obvious as obvious can be. Don't be upset wit this UK team or Coach Cal too much, guys..UK could go 34-0 and still get the toughest Region in the Tournament or they could go 23-11 or 24-10 and guess what ??? Yes, they'd still get put in the toughest Region/Region of Death)..so, it doesn't matter at the end of the day..honestly.

 

[STL_Cat]

Remember when the Cats fired Tubby? The media had a field day talking about how racist Kentucky fans are. Well, any talk of getting rid of Cal should prove one thing, our fans are not racist, they are just stupid.

Remember that Tubby didn’t get fired?

 

[morgousky]

On second thought, even though I think it's total BS and has no truth to it whatsoever, Capel probably is using a race angle.

He's a pos, it would make sense.

 

[eppsfan]

Great post! I especially agree that evaluating must be a bigger part of our recruiting. Rebounding, motor/energy, defense, fundamentals, bb IQ, etc... the same stuff we gripe about on here are the same variables that aren't huge components of the equation that assigns stars. A big man that has no interest in rebounding or a guard that won't guard may not be the best option, regardless how many stars some service hitched to their mixtape. Invest the time it takes to find players that will help you win, not just the athletes with the highest lottery potential.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

But Dukes basketball team has always been viewed as 50% white. Your logic doesn't make sense, because as you say, everything breaks down to race to a black person. Oh, and Coach K is a republican. Well known actually, Cal is liberal. I figured in your view the ideologies would matter. Wake me up next time coach K promotes anything to do with BLM or social causes. He's a Bob Knight disciple. Get real.

Parents wont put their kids through what? Promotion of their kids careers, being Gods on campus, having a whole state help promote your brand? What?

You are a soft bigot. I think you're a good guy probably, and don't know it, but you are. Black people understand just like white people that racist and trash are on all sides. Everyday people don't base decisions like this off of that. White elites make you feel this way, not black people I know.

I would hope Capel wouldn’t try to make it racial. Lexington is very diverse. In fact I think per population it has one of the highest rates of homosexuality in America. Lexington is way more diverse than Durham. Duke has always been white boy U until little Wo left and Capel arrived.

 

[ftp000]

Whoooooo....a bad *** here

Nah, just a dumbass over there.

 

[Blue Wildcat]

First let's let go of the Calipari hot seat talk. There are only a handful of coaches today who can coach here, most of those are already at blue bloods or programs they aren't leaving. Anyone we hired would be a risk at this point, Cal is still one of the only sure bets. 8 years, 4 final fours, title. At the end of the day it is what it is. I think everyone should cool it on that and think. We aren't there yet.

This board has had this coming. For over two years there have been posters trying to say exactly what we are witnessing. I'm no insider, but I was hearing Cal is having trouble with these recruits for a while, and that was coming from the AAU circuit where I'm from. I am friends with a few coaches and participated on the circuit in a small role in the late 2000's. Not one are surprised with our position as of this morning.

Kentucky's gamble backfired, and for those that think these players do not care about college and winning, you just got your first shot to the gut. Not every recruit will look past success (Bamba), and it doesn't matter how good they are. Real winners want to win regardless of anything else. K is selling that, Kentucky is selling the Lakers. When it was evident that pitch was no longer working, we turned to insanity. Just keep doing it.

Kentucky has more to offer than Duke, we have an entire state behind our program with vast resources and connections that is much deeper with a richer and older tradition. Why Cal decided he didn't need to use that, I don't know. We have promoted a very self centered environment and it's turned people off. Kids leave when they have no business leaving, our roster thinned out, top kids that wanted to win and be a part of something special didn't see it at UK. Others like Kennard were afraid they'd be pushed out early. We need a slight culture change, at least curve it.

I know it's hard for some to swallow that, we've got several who just simply couldn't comprehend a world where a kid would choose another option other than money and individual greed. They can both work together, equally. Just like skilled basketball players and talent. They can work together equally. Cal went all in toward one direction. Big mistake.

Recruit to UK, explain the history and what you want to accomplish for the program, they already know you won't hold them back if they're ready. The 20189 class wanted to win, they didn't need Cal to get them to the NBA. And if that's not important, Cal is useless compared to others right now. He spends little time recruiting "UK".

Nike is a huge problem, and again some have been expressing this for sometime. Our assistants have to go, or at least a total shakeup. I'm now on board with Barbee's exit. He cannot handle his position. Also It's my personal opinion that our compliance is and has been a problem. But that's a topic for another day.

Calipari is more than capable of becoming a college coach again, and I do say again because think he quit doing that when he came to Kentucky (somewhat). Cal was excellent at evaluation, and I think it's evident at this point that he's stopped evaluating as he once did. Throw away the top 25 rankings, pick up a note pad, and get out there recruiting. You can still sign top players.

I've people I consider friends on this board, and Im telling you guys, fans care more about the program than Cals record. They are beginning to look past the accomplishments because they feel that Kentucky has become an afterthought and that the program is becoming disrespected. There is a reason the fans appreciate and remember 1992 more than championship teams. I sometimes think Cal doesn't understand that, and I think a minority of our fans don't either.

Cal can get this right. He has a legacy at UK with a winning record to recruit with. Start recruiting Calipari, Kentucky, and family as much as the next level; the next level is just the next goal. Talk about the goal they are chasing today, college basketball.

That's what I got. I love Calipari and feel terrible for him right now. He needs our support more than he's ever needed it. I'm sure he's pissed at several issues surrounding the past few years, probably more than us. All great coaches ADJUST. All great coaches had bad stretches and made changes. If Cal is who we think he is, a GOAT, he will follow suit.

I don't think I've stopped drinking since yesterday at 5.

Can I get the audio version? JK. Nice post, really good points throughout.

 

[ftp000]

Remember that Tubby didn’t get fired?

sure he didn't

 

[oldsports_]

BEST POST EVER! Can this be sent to Cal?

I have a friend, who is in the circle of a friends, who has friends who know Cal and this will be sent to him

 

[TNCatfanforever]

This is the best thread on this board in years. Let’s avoid name calling and stick to adding our thoughts in an intelligent manner about the OP. We were all frustrated and ticked last night. Now cooler heads need to prevail