Liberty... for Freeze

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
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Freeze: “Give me Liberty, or give me whores. Hell, give me both.”
 

aTotal360

Heisman
Nov 12, 2009
22,657
16,651
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Does Bucky know about this?...The school's honor code, called the "Liberty Way", prohibits premarital sex and private interactions alone between members of the opposite sex.
 

WilCoDawg

All-Conference
Sep 6, 2012
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This is very disturbing. Liberty seems to be more worried about trying to become the Baptist version of Notre Dame than keeping to their moral code.
 

Duke Humphrey

All-Conference
Oct 3, 2013
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As a friend pointed out to me, Ian McCaw is the AD at Liberty. He was the AD at Baylor who was at the helm during their most recent scandal. Real top notch crew they got up there at Liberty U.
 

RightOfCenter

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Dec 5, 2015
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HF is an interesting character. I have always been fascinated with how people buy his act hook, line and sinker because I have always thought he was a slime ball.
 

notoriousD_O_G

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Apr 1, 2013
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This is very disturbing. Liberty seems to be more worried about trying to become the Baptist version of Notre Dame than keeping to their moral code.

Freeze may not fit their written moral code but he fits the actual values of that university and it's founder perfectly
 

Thirty-Two Dive

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Feb 10, 2013
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Does Bucky know about this?...The school's honor code, called the "Liberty Way", prohibits premarital sex and private interactions alone between members of the opposite sex.

"But if the recruits get the hookers, they aren't students yet. So, IT'S ALL GOOD!"

 
Jun 30, 2018
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You wanna bet on that?
Sorry, 2021.

But seriously, I was joking, sort of. I could see those desperate fools doing it, though. They'd give their left nut to get him back now if it meant they'd take no public hit. They never wanted to fire him in the first place.
 

gymdawg.sixpack

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Aug 26, 2012
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It seriously seems like the total um move. Tell freeze to appease the ncaa for a few years and "cut ties" to um while cleaning up his image, then um hires him back and looks like the ultimate goodwill 2nd chance institution. Its publicity and keeping the guy they want. Probation will be over and "cheat $" will be stockpiled for another run
 

Drebin

Heisman
Aug 22, 2012
22,903
28,501
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Sorry, 2021.

But seriously, I was joking, sort of. I could see those desperate fools doing it, though. They'd give their left nut to get him back now if it meant they'd take no public hit. They never wanted to fire him in the first place.


I just don't buy it. Freeze quietly walked away from 12 million dollars. The SEC hasn't allowed other programs to hire him. There is some significant dirt on Freeze that Ole Miss has managed to keep stifled, it seems. I don't see them ever hiring him again.
 

fishwater99

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Jun 4, 2007
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I just don't buy it. Freeze quietly walked away from 12 million dollars. The SEC hasn't allowed other programs to hire him. There is some significant dirt on Freeze that Ole Miss has managed to keep stifled, it seems. I don't see them ever hiring him again.

Buying Hookers for recruits. There is a reason he is still married. I still can't believe this hasn't come out.
 
Jun 30, 2018
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Buying Hookers for recruits. There is a reason he is still married. I still can't believe this hasn't come out.
Yeah, I agree with both of you, we know it's still there. It would SMU their program and murder Freeze's career, that's why he walked away from the money, and that's why Ole Miss is silent. But make no mistake, both sides still love each other. They are probably in it together.

But even still, I could see this whole deal at Liberty becoming an even bigger dumpster fire.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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Perfect fit for him. Little Baylor (Lynchburg) has about as much integrity as the real Baylor does.
 

gymdawg.sixpack

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Aug 26, 2012
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Just texts my uncle this very thing. Freeze didnt fight back because in doing so it opens him up for further evaluation. He took it because he hoped appeasing um and the ncaa with the small stuff would be enough to not look further into the whores for (some underage) recruits.
 

kb549

Sophomore
Oct 6, 2014
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In other news, Southern Miss is going to have to change their buzzard logo again. Looks like they stole their current design from Liberty and modified it just a little.
 

jb1020

Freshman
Jun 7, 2009
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Freeze still committed to the long con

Makes for a better story, the guy who fell from "grace" only to be swooped up and given a second chance by a school started by a telavangelist.

He's paying for his sins here. I give him 2 years and he'll be back in big time football. It doesnt make for a good story if he goes to FSU and takes orders as an OC.
 

maroonmania

All-Conference
Feb 23, 2008
11,389
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Buying Hookers for recruits. There is a reason he is still married. I still can't believe this hasn't come out.

Pretty obvious to any clear thinking, logical person this was exactly what was going on. And its obvious why OM and even the SEC would want to keep this suppressed because it would open a can of legal worms for both. The only real question is why in the heck Freeze was calling escort services directly himself. Just shows you how personally engrossed in the illegal recruiting practices he really was. No way hardly any HC would risk his career doing something like that when he could have just as easily have an underling do it and then deny any knowledge of it later if it came out.
 
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Just shows you how personally engrossed in the illegal recruiting practices he really was. No way hardly any HC would risk his career doing something like that when he could have just as easily have an underling do it and then deny any knowledge of it later if it came out.
It shows how reckless they had gotten there at the end. In any well-organized sketchy operation, any non-burner phone is totally off-limits.
 

JML105

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Sep 4, 2012
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Those comments are brutal. Possibly even more brutal than anything I've read here about the guy.
 
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