Let's Talk NIT

bac2therac

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not happening....they dont take 500 schools...only scenerio is RU at maybe 17-15
 

RUsojo

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.500 has seriously been in question for a while now getting to .500 overall on the season should be the stretch assignment.

We lost to Maryland Minnesota Penn St and after Nebraska and Northwestern on the road we have the top 7 teams in the conference plus Michigan. That’s 8 straight games as an underdog until the finale against Penn St.
 

Scangg

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That’s all hope right now. I see no reason to expect to beat Michigan st Illinois Wisconsin or Ohio St other than hope
And there was a 0% chance we would beat Purdue going into that game. The season couldn't have started worse. There was no hope.

The RAC has magic and Ron will have a monster game and we will get a big win at the RAC. It's not gonna be all Hyde all season. Jekyll will show up at least once if not twice.
 

jerzeyguy

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Will the NIT take a 16 win team? Honestly I'm not even sure we get to 16 now
 

Plum Street

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Who the hell cares about the NIT???
Listen 2004 was great and fun at the time, but that tournament doesn’t matter . It really doesn’t matter when your best players are seniors
 
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LeapinLou

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As an old fogey that still remembers when the NIT was relevant, I appreciate GoRutgersGo starting this thread.

We can't have have the Geo/RHJ era end like this. We really need to do as Bac says and steal a few wins with RAC magic and make a deep run into the NIT. I know for most people it means nothing, but for this Rutgers fan it would be a better alternative to the current way Geo/Ron's career at Rutgers would otherwise end.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Plus….Bac is about to reprimand me….if things continue the NIT bubble could be large. The ACC could be sending 4 to 5 teams to NIT
 
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ImBadRU

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If we don't even make the NIT, the collapse would have been catastrophic. I'm hoping it doesn't come to that, but it could.
 

zebnatto

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As an old fogey that still remembers when the NIT was relevant, I appreciate GoRutgersGo starting this thread.

We can't have have the Geo/RHJ era end like this. We really need to do as Bac says and steal a few wins with RAC magic and make a deep run into the NIT. I know for most people it means nothing, but for this Rutgers fan it would be a better alternative to the current way Geo/Ron's career at Rutgers would otherwise end.
Don’t know how much of an old-timer you are but I’m one too and remember NIT chants at the Barn.
 
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NewJerseyHawk

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The NIT stuff is silly, there is literally no difference in where RU is today vs 2019-20 in terms of performance.

In 2019-20, Bryant had a 3 to win that missed, which is the same 3 that Lafayette made at the buzzer in 2021-22.

RU was 3-6 & lost 5 straight B1G games before a road game at Indiana in the middle of last season.....the doomsday stuff happened last year too.

The difference between the last 2 years and this year is Pike's refusal to integrate the bench and he has done a beyond poor job of carving out a role off the bench for Hyatt, Mag and Jones.....and he truly had no plans to play Jalen Miller, until Geo was injured and he was given no choice to do so.

The season is far from over but it looks very unlikely that the bench scoring that any normal fan would have expected Pike to play like he did in all of his other years, would be bolted to the bench.

It is one thing to not play a Souf Mensah or Matt Bullock in this early stage of a rebuild....it is coaching malpractice to not play a normal 9 player rotation, if you claim to care about defense and rebounding and maintain a level of effort...playing 5 players at the intensity level needed to shut down a high powered Iowa, is fine, if you expand the bench minutes in the next couple of games.....

Pike is going to run the starters into the ground and lose, or he will have to expand his bench and find wins.....6 players will not get it done at this level of basketball, while sitting on Mag, Hyatt and Jones.....
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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The NIT stuff is silly, there is literally no difference in where RU is today vs 2019-20 in terms of performance.

In 2019-20, Bryant had a 3 to win that missed, which is the same 3 that Lafayette made at the buzzer in 2021-22.

RU was 3-6 & lost 5 straight B1G games before a road game at Indiana in the middle of last season.....the doomsday stuff happened last year too.

The difference between the last 2 years and this year is Pike's refusal to integrate the bench and he has done a beyond poor job of carving out a role off the bench for Hyatt, Mag and Jones.....and he truly had no plans to play Jalen Miller, until Geo was injured and he was given no choice to do so.

The season is far from over but it looks very unlikely that the bench scoring that any normal fan would have expected Pike to play like he did in all of his other years, would be bolted to the bench.

It is one thing to not play a Souf Mensah or Matt Bullock in this early stage of a rebuild....it is coaching malpractice to not play a normal 9 player rotation, if you claim to care about defense and rebounding and maintain a level of effort...playing 5 players at the intensity level needed to shut down a high powered Iowa, is fine, if you expand the bench minutes in the next couple of games.....

Pike is going to run the starters into the ground and lose, or he will have to expand his bench and find wins.....6 players will not get it done at this level of basketball,
while sitting on Mag, Hyatt and Jones.....
I agree 100% with the highlighted items. The difference between 19-20 and 21-22 is the bench. Given the fact that Pike has used the bench in the past is, to me, it is and indictment on what Hyatt, Jones and Mag are.
 
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fluoxetine

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The NIT stuff is silly, there is literally no difference in where RU is today vs 2019-20 in terms of performance.

In 2019-20, Bryant had a 3 to win that missed, which is the same 3 that Lafayette made at the buzzer in 2021-22.

RU was 3-6 & lost 5 straight B1G games before a road game at Indiana in the middle of last season.....the doomsday stuff happened last year too.
This is just not true.

Through 01/25/2020 we were #14 in Bart and at +1.3 wins above bubble
Through 01/25/2021 we were #39 in Bart and at +0.7 wins above bubble
Through 01/25/2022 we are #107 in Bart and at -2.2 wins above (below) bubble.

Our luck rating is middle of the pack. We have not been unlucky.
 

Scangg

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This is just not true.

Through 01/25/2020 we were #14 in Bart and at +1.3 wins above bubble
Through 01/25/2021 we were #39 in Bart and at +0.7 wins above bubble
Through 01/25/2022 we are #107 in Bart and at -2.2 wins above (below) bubble.

Our luck rating is middle of the pack. We have not been unlucky.
Yea, definitely worse than last year at this point.

Also, this season we have a brutal February schedule. I can't imagine last year's Febuary was as rough.

Now that does mean more chances at Q1 wins but our struggles this year mean its less likely we can pull off those wins
 

fluoxetine

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Yea, definitely worse than last year at this point.

Also, this season we have a brutal February schedule. I can't imagine last year's Febuary was as rough.

Now that does mean more chances at Q1 wins but our struggles this year mean its less likely we can pull off those wins
Our last 11 regular season games last year a bubble team was expected to win 5.7.

This year that number is 5.1.
 
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anon1753890747

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Football season just started
Thankfully It’s over can’t watch this team epically underperform anymore
My least favorite Fan experience ever
52 years of fandom!!!
 
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Gudenham

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The NIT stuff is silly, there is literally no difference in where RU is today vs 2019-20 in terms of performance.

In 2019-20, Bryant had a 3 to win that missed, which is the same 3 that Lafayette made at the buzzer in 2021-22.
Bryant did not make it. Lafayette did. That happens to make a difference in the win/loss column.
 
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LeapinLou

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Don’t know how much of an old-timer you are but I’m one too and remember NIT chants at the Barn.
My career as an RU fan began my Freshman year, which was 1983. I only followed pro sports prior to that. So I've never attended a basketball game in the barn and didn't care during RU's glory days in the mid 70s. My loss but I'm sure it's a great memory for you.
 

bac2therac

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The NIT stuff is silly, there is literally no difference in where RU is today vs 2019-20 in terms of performance.

In 2019-20, Bryant had a 3 to win that missed, which is the same 3 that Lafayette made at the buzzer in 2021-22.

RU was 3-6 & lost 5 straight B1G games before a road game at Indiana in the middle of last season.....the doomsday stuff happened last year too.

The difference between the last 2 years and this year is Pike's refusal to integrate the bench and he has done a beyond poor job of carving out a role off the bench for Hyatt, Mag and Jones.....and he truly had no plans to play Jalen Miller, until Geo was injured and he was given no choice to do so.

The season is far from over but it looks very unlikely that the bench scoring that any normal fan would have expected Pike to play like he did in all of his other years, would be bolted to the bench.

It is one thing to not play a Souf Mensah or Matt Bullock in this early stage of a rebuild....it is coaching malpractice to not play a normal 9 player rotation, if you claim to care about defense and rebounding and maintain a level of effort...playing 5 players at the intensity level needed to shut down a high powered Iowa, is fine, if you expand the bench minutes in the next couple of games.....

Pike is going to run the starters into the ground and lose, or he will have to expand his bench and find wins.....6 players will not get it done at this level of basketball, while sitting on Mag, Hyatt and Jones.....


not true at all

last year we had Myles and JY and were in tourney because the resume was outstanding even at 7-6...then we finished it off by winning games.

Last years team was 1000% better than this years not even close

what do you not get about our bench being dreadful vs our bench the previous two seasons
 

Miggins

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Do you need to be over .500 to be eligible? If yes would mean we need to go 4-6 down the stretch to guarantee over .500