Let's just beat Delaware

PSAL_Hoops

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We lost? To a team we should beat?
We were a ranked team? Undefeated?
We are Rutgers?
Schiano always has a game that you say "what just happened"
Look at what happened this past weekend to Florida.
First of all, Flood not Schiano coached the Kent State game.

Secondly - even if Schiano had been the coach - that Kent State team finished 11-3 in the MAC (an FBS conference). You are comparing them to a team that trailed Maine a few weeks ago at halftime?

I’m not saying this isn’t a losable game (it’s not Howard or Morgan State) but your analogy wasn’t a good one.
 
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We lost? To a team we should beat?
We were a ranked team? Undefeated?
We are Rutgers?
Schiano always has a game that you say "what just happened"
Look at what happened this past weekend to Florida.
Schiano (2.0), Schiano (1.0), and Flood are different people. Flood got less from more. Schiano (2.0) is a different beast altogether. Even Schiano (1.0) would have trouble with the new version of himself. There is a different approach and more of a commitment to winning. Schiano has a better supporting cast.
 

AreYouNUTS

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Best part about playing UD in Week 3: the minnows have already upset the whales. Also, Greg learned a long time (from/after the BuffNova debacle) ago to mentally prepare his teams properly and not take them lightly.

Oh and to my new friend @superfan01 I have to disagree wholeheartedly with you on that "they're better than 'Cuse" comment. I actually think that 'Cuse might be a little better than many are giving them credit for being.
 

Scarlet83

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Delaware most certainly won’t score 35 like UNH did. But as a well coached team I don’t expect them to turn the ball over too often meaning RU will need longer drives, which would be a problem.

We win comfortably but doubtful we cover. 27-13

Stop with your “we” bulls/!t. We know who you are.
 
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I played on the 1960 RU freshman team. Our coach was Chuck Klausing who is now in college football HOF. Coach Klausing's Braddock, PA high school team had a 55 game winning streak when he came to RU as freshman coach. We extended his streak to 60 wins and then we played Delaware at home before a trainful of Braddock fans who had come to see the winning streak continue.....but we took our only loss of the season that day 13-7. Delaware star running back Mike Brown was drafted. Never sleep on Delaware. It's a proud program with a lot of history.

A couple of side notes. We had 110 players tryout for the freshman team. Half of the team failed out of school. Per below link, there is a move called "Braddock" now in production. It is based upon the book "Striking Gridiron" and is about Coach Klausings 1959 Braddock high school team. Russell Wilson provided the financing.

 

RUTGERS95

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Schiano (2.0), Schiano (1.0), and Flood are different people. Flood got less from more. Schiano (2.0) is a different beast altogether. Even Schiano (1.0) would have trouble with the new version of himself. There is a different approach and more of a commitment to winning. Schiano has a better supporting cast.
I'm not sure Flood got less with more
Also it's way way too early to opine on Greg 2.0
 
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I'm not sure Flood got less with more
Also ,it's way way too early to opine on Greg 2.0
Early results show Schiano delegates more responsibilities to qualified coaches. He's dropped the micromanaging habits from the first time around. To see the difference you have to look beyond wins and losses and the final score. Look at the fundies of the players and coaches. Look at the accountability of everyone involved. Look at the type of players he's recruiting and has transferred into the program.
 
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Delaware most certainly won’t score 35 like UNH did. But as a well coached team I don’t expect them to turn the ball over too often meaning RU will need longer drives, which would be a problem.

We win comfortably but doubtful we cover. 27-13
Even if they don’t turn it over, I see them starting inside their 15 mult times. That alone will give us a few short fields.
 
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The difference will be noticed in both the offensive and defensive lines.

Especially Rutgers relative depth with our 4th and 5th D linemen and 6th O linemen much better. B1G weight advantage for Rutgers offensive line. Phun. Rutgers special teams, rushing between the tackles and rush D win the game.
 
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Please explain to me the relevance of a game that was played nine years ago.
Uhm Hello, Bagarocks explained it quite succinctly….Rutgers has had a history of losing to teams(FCS level) that “We should have beat”. What is hard to figure out the “Relevance”?
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Uhm Hello, Bagarocks explained it quite succinctly….Rutgers has had a history of losing to teams(FCS level) that “We should have beat”. What is hard to figure out the “Relevance”?
That’s the point. Kent State isn’t an FCS team.
 
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Especially Rutgers relative depth with our 4th and 5th D linemen and 6th O linemen much better. B1G weight advantage for Rutgers offensive line. Phun. Rutgers special teams, rushing between the tackles and rush D win the game.
According to a news journal of Delaware, their article claimed almost half of the Blue Hens starters (9) would start for Rutgers. This includes players along the OL and DL.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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According to a news journal of Delaware, their article claimed almost half of the Blue Hens starters (9) would start for Rutgers. This includes players along the OL and DL.
That might be true, but those guys would almost certainly be replacing our weaker starters which better make a BIG difference. There’s also a drastic difference between the talent level of our second team and theirs.

Look - push came to shove, the indisputably worst offense of recent RU history in 2019, under the direction of a high school coach (no offense to Camp), managed to drop 44 points on a Liberty team that was at least comparable to Delaware. There is no excuse whatsoever for losing this game. It would be a massive disappointment.
 
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That might be true, but those guys would almost certainly be replacing our weaker starters which better make a BIG difference. There’s also a drastic difference between the talent level of our second team and theirs.

Look - push came to shove, the indisputably worst offense of recent RU history in 2019, under the direction of a high school coach (no offense to Camp), managed to drop 44 points on a Liberty team that was at least comparable to Delaware. There is no excuse whatsoever for losting this game. It would be a massive disappointment.
I can see starters from UD on the OL and QB, but not the skill players. I'm having a difficult time seeing their star LB starting over our guys. Their DB are talented when compare to FCS, but I've watched enough of them to see rotation guys only at Rutgers. I don't see 9 starters. I see 4 legit guys who could start for Rutgers. The other guys would play as rotational players. Keep in mind, we are not talking about 2019. We are talking about 2021.
 

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According to a news journal of Delaware, their article claimed almost half of the Blue Hens starters (9) would start for Rutgers. This includes players along the OL and DL.

They can write all the fantasy articles they want.
It’s pure BS. The results on Saturday will destroy that wish list.
 

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That Delaware writer is an obvious troll. He got his attention. He won't enjoy watching the game Saturday.

Overall team speed for Delaware is going to be a serious problem for them. Rutgers defense is legit. Blue Hens aren't going to be able to hang.
 
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The first stretch play by both teams will show you all you need

before Rutgers nap in second quarter Temple had no chance on the outside. Back was swallowed up early.

you will see O3 and our LB run down people all day.

and my favorite saying for good offenses ...you may have one great DB ,but R 3rd best WR is way better then your 3rd best DB ....their 3rd best DB has no chance against Cruikshank or Washington and can their best cover Melton ???
 

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I really don't think there is any chance that our team will take Delaware lightly.
While we have won both games thus far, we aren't coming off a big upset win where we could face a letdown (ala New Hampshire).
The coaches and players know very well that we have had issues (primarily on offense).

Delaware is a very good football team, and we will need to play well to win. The coaches and players know this.
 
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I think they only lost 3 good players from the Spring

They are a well oiled team
I know they are a good team, but they haven't played well this fall. Teams like Maine and St. Francis shouldn't give them too much trouble, but they did. I think playing through spring and asking them to come back in the fall is a tall order. I think the difference between Delaware and Rutgers is depth. UD will have to play their starters the majority of the game, unlike Rutgers. Again, UD is still trying to recover from the spring season. This is why the game can get ugly if they falter in the trenches, and I think it will.
 

AreYouNUTS

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Why do Rutgers fans continue to worship other teams as being supermen while dismissing Rutgers as an afterthought?

What you need to know about the Delaware Blue Hens:

Yes, they are ranked #6, but that could be a product of their performance last spring. So far, they haven't played or lived up to the hype. In two games against subpar teams, they are averaged 3.2 and 2.2 yards per carry. Even their fans have noticed and are concerned.

"Re: Game Thread: Maine

Post by mpwerrell » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:00 pm


I agree that the O-Line is not the strength of this team but they gained 137 yards on the ground not 49. Maybe you were looking at the yardage Maine had on the ground."


This is what the coach has to say about his offense:

Rocco added, "Special team was really solid. Offensively we played in spurts. We did not have a lot of big plays or explosive plays today offensively. We utilized our field goal kicker. I was proud of how we competed in the second half. We are winners of nine of our last 10 games and we are excited about moving forward to next week with the challenge against a Big 10 team."

Delaware is having snap issues with their center, and you better believe Rutgers can and will exploit that problem. Rutgers still has to play solid ball, but Delaware is nowhere as talented as Syracuse or Temple. Rutgers should handle their business. Btw, Delaware's defense gave up 5.0 yards per carry to Saint Francis U. It's best to know a little about the opponent before you anoint them as the all mighty.


Excellent post. Thank you Doug!
 

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Agree. Don’t think Avery has a future in the NFL however.
Yeah, no post season accolades for Avery that I could find although he was Third team All BIG14 last year. Guys do have a way of finding rosters as UFA’s and that’s where I’ve seen Harris projected, as an UFA signee.