Let's examine the Ole Miss defense:

Drebin

Heisman
Aug 22, 2012
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1. It's all Barney's fault on the allegations we agree with regarding Leo Lewis.
2. Leo Lewis is a liar and made up stories in collusion with Dan Mullen and Kobe Jones.
3. We didn't get an opportunity to cross-examine the SAs or to interview Dan Mullen - you see? Collusion!
4. This whole thing was an NCAA witch hunt, orchestrated by Greg Sankey and Dan Mullen.
5. Steve Robertson fits in here somewhere, but we're not sure where yet, we just know he's guilty.
6. Our boosters are gonna file lawsuits in an attempt to intimidate and bully.
7. Please disregard the other 14 level one allegations in the NOA.
8. We will get chuck and yancy to push this narrative because it's way too stupid to be an official university agenda.

And we are the obsessed ones? Anyone who believes any of this stuff is so stupid they should have their right to vote revoked.

We hire a brash yankee, beat that *** three times, talk some smack, put up some billboards. They respond by hiring Jimmy Swaggart and go all in, resulting in a recruiting class that branded them cheaters in the eyes of virtually every football program in America. And then the rev went to twitter to poke everyone in the eye over it. And they kept going - year over year, even while they were being investigated. And now that it's all crumbling down around them, it has to be someone else's fault? What a bunch of dumbasses.

In one way you can say they are right in that MSU is behind the whole thing....because it was our success and Mullen's cockiness that drove them to this level of irrational behavior. But it's not new territory....the same thing happened after our run in the late 90s too....where they became so jealous that they went full retard over their hatred of Jackie Sherrill. Nevermind that they received one of the harshest probations post-SMU thanks to Billy Brewer. It's their culture.

Don't ever change, Ole Miss.
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
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My favorite thing about all this is the obvious lurking that's going on over here. Hardly any posts, unless it's about the sueing and rueing that's coming. Other than that, the lurkers are hurting and trying to cheer them selves up by sipping brandy and listening to old stories from when diddy was a walk-on under Vaught.
 

DerHntr

All-Conference
Sep 18, 2007
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I'm still waiting for an OM fan to explain to me how Miller fits into all of this. Did he just name Rags by coincidence? Did Mullen or the NCAA contact him and encourage him to implicate Rags and no other retailers?

The other thing that is hilarious to me is I have seen over and over the "everybody cheats" argument. Then they go wild about the idea that only Kobe, Leo, and Miller said Rags did anything wrong. So are we to believe that all the other players interviewed were being 100% truthful about Rags because indeed not everyone does cheat or do we believe that three people admitted to benefits from Rags
and many of the other players kept their mouths shut?
 

Drebin

Heisman
Aug 22, 2012
22,953
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Don't you remember? They were able to present testimony from three or four people stating they never received anything from Rebel Rags. So clearly, Rebel Rags has never given free merchandise.

Oh yeah, and they presented testimony that Leo's mom never saw him with the merchandise. So clearly Leo was lying and he never got it.

The way this works, for the lurkers, is that the NCAA had all the evidence they needed before they ever interviewed Leo Lewis. He was given immunity to be asked about it and corroborate what they already had.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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The best part of it all, besides the fact they are going to get butt17ed, is that they hate Mullen again. My favorite Mullen was the one that they hated with a fiery passion. This level of hate for him is 10x more than before and he didn't even do anything this time.
 

mcdawg22

Heisman
Sep 18, 2004
13,777
12,427
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The best part of it all, besides the fact they are going to get butt17ed, is that they hate Mullen again. My favorite Mullen was the one that they hated with a fiery passion. This level of hate for him is 10x more than before and he didn't even do anything this time.
My favorite part is after the Louisville punishment. Dan Mullen may be right again when he said we are never going to lose the that team again.
 

PBRME

All-American
Feb 12, 2004
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It's the Dan and Rosebowl are behind the whole thing narrative that gets me everytime.


First they said Dan won't play the recruiting game because getting caught cheating would keep him from getting on the first bus out of town. Which he desperately wants out of town. Now Dan is having boosters pay players and then having those players say it was OM paying then.


The reason Rosebowl has been the one reporting everything is because no one else would. The national media was buying the OM official lies, and the Clarion Ledger wasn't going to report on it.
 

BiscuitEater

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Aug 29, 2009
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I'm still waiting for an OM fan to explain to me how Miller fits into all of this. Did he just name Rags by coincidence? Did Mullen or the NCAA contact him and encourage him to implicate Rags and no other retailers?

Anyone alive that believes that Laremy Tunsil did NOT get free OM stuff from RR & OM are living in a 'dream world.'
 

Drebin

Heisman
Aug 22, 2012
22,953
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It's the Dan and Rosebowl are behind the whole thing narrative that gets me everytime.


First they said Dan won't play the recruiting game because getting caught cheating would keep him from getting on the first bus out of town. Which he desperately wants out of town. Now Dan is having boosters pay players and then having those players say it was OM paying then.


The reason Rosebowl has been the one reporting everything is because no one else would. The national media was buying the OM official lies, and the Clarion Ledger wasn't going to report on it.

Well, don't interject facts into the discussion! That might get you on the list!

You are correct and this is one thing that isn't discussed enough: either Dan Mullen doesn't give a damn and is looking for the next train out of town, or Dan Mullen is an evil mastermind colluding with the NCAA and the SEC, hell bent on taking down Ole Miss. I think they need to pick an argument and stick to it.
 

DerHntr

All-Conference
Sep 18, 2007
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Anyone alive that believes that Laremy Tunsil did NOT get free OM stuff from RR & OM are living in a 'dream world.'

Notice that Tunsil is not currently coming to the defense of OM or Rags. I wonder why he wouldn't want to talk to the NCAA**
 

maroonmania

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Feb 23, 2008
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Don't you remember? They were able to present testimony from three or four people stating they never received anything from Rebel Rags. So clearly, Rebel Rags has never given free merchandise.

Oh yeah, and they presented testimony that Leo's mom never saw him with the merchandise. So clearly Leo was lying and he never got it.

The way this works, for the lurkers, is that the NCAA had all the evidence they needed before they ever interviewed Leo Lewis. He was given immunity to be asked about it and corroborate what they already had.

That is the strange thing about the players questioned with immunity as I understand it. Leo and Kobe didn't voluntarily go to the NCAA and make these allegations. They were brought in and questioned about specific possible allegations that the NCAA already had knowledge of. Its not like Leo and Kobe just voluntarily went to the NCAA so they could be asked "Hey, tell us some of the things Ole Miss did illegally during your recruitment?". From everything I've heard they were asked specifics to validate charges the NCAA already had knowledge of and for those things they were given immunity. I'm sure Leo and Kobe probably would have much preferred to have stayed out of it.
 

Drebin

Heisman
Aug 22, 2012
22,953
28,627
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That is the strange thing about the players questioned with immunity as I understand it. Leo and Kobe didn't voluntarily go to the NCAA and make these allegations. They were brought in and questioned about specific possible allegations that the NCAA already had knowledge of. Its not like Leo and Kobe just voluntarily went to the NCAA so they could be asked "Hey, tell us some of the things Ole Miss did illegally during your recruitment?". From everything I've heard they were asked specifics to validate charges the NCAA already had knowledge of and for those things they were given immunity. I'm sure Leo and Kobe probably would have much preferred to have stayed out of it.

Facts are pesky things, and they mean nothing to idiots.

The thing I love the most is that those idiots think Mississippi State and the NCAA are quaking in their boots over this. Maybe the retard wing of our fanbase is worried, but the rest of us are just popping our popcorn and waiting for the show.
 

amcdan2000

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Sep 15, 2013
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We know Tunsil got free car and kept it after he was told to turn it back in. They may not want to piss Miller off anymore than he is. Wonder if we could open Miller's case and peak. I always believed that T$UN Leo and his mom confued with Tunsil and his mom.
 
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